Toxikk - The Anti-Call of Duty Shooter.
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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Sep 2014 19:57    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
"None of the bells and whistles that we have on new games"
"If you don't have an unlock tree or aim down sights, you might not have a reason for players to keep playing your game"

Oh take your biased bullshit and stuff it up your arse, you pedantic industry-destroying twat.


Everyone knows you're just a RAPIST CIS SCUM. So fuck off, Sabin, your opinion does not count!

I wish Zoe Quinn would give her opinion about Toxikk, that would finally be a voice of reason in this ocean of mysoginistic web of lies influenced by the global patriarchy!
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Sep 2014 20:04    Post subject:
Radicalus wrote:
Take a look at what derpspot had to say about this game.

So much wrong ... so much wrong in such little time.

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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Sep 2014 20:05    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
"If you don't have an unlock tree or aim down sights, you might not have a reason for players to keep playing your game"

Of course not!

Having fun isn't a reason to play a game, come on :/
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Sep 2014 20:44    Post subject:
Radicalus wrote:
Everyone knows you're just a RAPIST CIS SCUM. So fuck off, Sabin, your opinion does not count!

I wish Zoe Quinn would give her opinion about Toxikk, that would finally be a voice of reason in this ocean of mysoginistic web of lies influenced by the global patriarchy!

Werelds wrote:

Of course not!

Having fun isn't a reason to play a game, come on :/


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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Sep 2014 20:56    Post subject:
These guys, who are the "journos", most of them are roughly the same age as us (~30).

WHAT THE FUCK DID THEY PLAY GROWING UP?

Because all my friends who were gamers, while growing up, have a similar taste to mine (they like the deeper games of ages past, and they mainly play for the joy the gameplay offers, not unlocking shit).

So ... WHAT THE FUCK DID THESE GUYS PLAY?

Or are they so out of touch, that they just eat out just about any mainstream orifice, that is trendy just at the moment - like Zoe Quinn. BOOM!
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Sep 2014 21:16    Post subject:
I think unlocking, if done right, is the perfect system.

They have to be meaningful and impactful. The greatest example I can think of is fighting games. There are fewer things more satisfying than unlocking a new, SIGNIFICANT, fighter.

I think for Tekken for the original Playstation, I must have played that goddamn Galaga game in the beginning 8 billion times and I believe that unlocked something. And then like, beating the game with everyone to unlock the last boss I believe.

That stuff feels good.

But seeing a stale experience track that unlocks weak bullshit is no fun at all.


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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Sep 2014 21:19    Post subject:
Oh don't get me wrong, I love me some progression and unlock systems, but they're certainly not the be-all and end-all of shooters. The way some people are playing off as if games are pointless without it.. egh.. it's just silly.

sTo0z wrote:
The greatest example I can think of is fighting games. There are fewer things more satisfying than unlocking a new, SIGNIFICANT, fighter.


This too! This is one of the reasons why I really dislike the PS360 re-release of Marvel vs Capcom 2, since they've automatically pre-unlocked all the characters and one of the great things about playing the original on the DC was the "shop" mode where you could buy characters Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Sep 2014 21:23    Post subject:
Radicalus wrote:
Take a look at what derpspot had to say about this game.

So much wrong ... so much wrong in such little time.


They're not FPS gamers and basta, that's it.


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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Sep 2014 21:30    Post subject:
Oh god, I still play ut2k4 from time to time.
This thing looks good, hope it'll really be.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 07:54    Post subject:
I don't even care what those idiots have to say. The game isn't even targeted at them. It's targeted at fools like me who get their panties wet when they see stuff that reminds them of the old glory days.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 12:40    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
I don't even care what those idiots have to say. The game isn't even targeted at them. It's targeted at fools like me who get their panties wet when they see stuff that reminds them of the old glory days.


Sadly, just like the GamerGate stuff, those idiots are the ones in control. A pisspoor review from shitbags like DerpGN means publishers and developers make less of Game A in exchange for derped down Game B.. since only Game B will be classed as "profitable"
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 12:58    Post subject:
Well the devs kinda exposed themselves with that trailer, no this, no that, yeah thats the amazing stuff to brag about Laughing. They could focus on stuff that makes their game good, no on what it doesnt have (even if it is the same thing, you dont market your product in that kind of "negative" approach). As for modern fps gamers - they are 100% right, what are you complaining about? Thats how things look nowadays, you can not like it all you want but thats the reality.

Did you all watched it to the end? Guy literally said he is excited to see something that deviates from the current fps games. Personally I dont know if I would like to spend x hours in arena based shooter boosting my skills or just play something like BF games and have a blast leveling up, unlocking stuff, using differen vehicles and so on. I had time to practice my aim when q2-3 was released, now I dont, and most of the people dont have it or simply are not willing to do that.

This way or another, waiting more for the new unreal tournament shooter Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 13:15    Post subject:
ramalan wrote:
Well the devs kinda exposed themselves with that trailer, no this, no that, yeah thats the amazing stuff to brag about Laughing. They could focus on stuff that makes their game good, no on what it doesnt have (even if it is the same thing, you dont market your product in that kind of "negative" approach). As for modern fps gamers - they are 100% right, what are you complaining about? Thats how things look nowadays, you can not like it all you want but thats the reality.

Did you all watched it to the end? Guy literally said he is excited to see something that deviates from the current fps games. Personally I dont know if I would like to spend x hours in arena based shooter boosting my skills or just play something like BF games and have a blast leveling up, unlocking stuff, using differen vehicles and so on. I had time to practice my aim when q2-3 was released, now I dont, and most of the people dont have it or simply are not willing to do that.

This way or another, waiting more for the new unreal tournament shooter Very Happy


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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 20:39    Post subject:
What are you even talking about?

They SHOWED, what their game is about, and typed in text, what it isn't about.

Also, if an arena shooter today had the production values of say Destiny, or the latest Call of Derps, and the marketing of it ... I bet my fucking balls, that it would sell as much as CoD sells.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2014 15:56    Post subject:
Soo... Double jumps, dodge jumps, wall dodges, slope jumps, elevator jumps. Yyyeah, they really put a lot of thought into this. It's going to be REAALLY innovative Rolling Eyes
Basically, the only change from UT 2k4 is bringing back the good ol' Quake-style rocket jumps instead of having to use the impact hammer/shield gun for that.
Oh, and btw - am I looking right? Do I see a magazine ammo counters in the HUD? UT with reloading?
Or is it just a small amount of total ammo the guy had on him?
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2014 16:00    Post subject:
They're not trying to be innovative Facepalm That's the whole point, the point is to get away from CoD and go BACK to the style of UT Razz
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2014 16:07    Post subject:
I did check the video. The ammo wasn't even mentioned Very Happy

sabin1981 wrote:
They're not trying to be innovative Facepalm That's the whole point, the point is to get away from CoD and go BACK to the style of UT Razz

Yeah, but trailers like this one would suggest they're doing something new, that needs to be presented like that. This trailer however might as well be just replaced with a UT2k4 video Laughing
But ok, I get it - all that CAN be new for console kids raised on CoD, that were still running around in diapers back in 2004 Razz
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2014 16:13    Post subject:
Right from the start they've not tried to be anything but classic, I think that's pretty much the primary selling point Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Oct 2014 00:05    Post subject:
I hope I can make it look like the way I play Quake Live. Those fancy lighting and textures makes me so dizzy.

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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Oct 2014 04:08    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Radicalus wrote:
Take a look at what derpspot had to say about this game.

So much wrong ... so much wrong in such little time.



Saw gamespot watermark....heard them start talking...turned video off.


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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Oct 2014 02:52    Post subject:
The map they used in that movement demo video looked awesome - got a real Deus Ex/Blade Runner vibe from it!


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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Jan 2015 22:49    Post subject:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/324810/
Early Access Available: 01/22/2015
Quote:
Why Early Access?
    “After working on the game for more than two years, implementing all basic features and polishing the game's visuals, we feel that we now need input from the most important aspect of the game: THE PLAYERS!
    We believe that a solid weapon balance and a polished movement model are the top priorities for an Arena FPS. That's where you can make the difference! Help us make TOXIKK an overall great experience.”

Approximately how long will this game be in Early Access?
    Early Access is planned for 4-6 months. Depending on our testing focus, we'll release new maps, features and game modes along the course of this early access beta on a regulary basis.”

How is the full version planned to differ from the Early Access version?
    “The full game will feature the complete set of maps, weapons, game modes and features. But most importantly, with your help it'll be a highly polished and balanced Arena FPS.”

What is the current state of the Early Access version?
    The game is fully playable. We'll add more features, maps and game modes along the course of the early access beta on a regulary basis.”

Will the game be priced differently during and after Early Access?
    “The price for the full game will be higher than the current one.”
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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Jan 2015 22:58    Post subject:
oh it's from Reakktor. neocron anyone? game was pretty nice but bugged like hell.
or black prophecy... f2p shit that was shut down after a few years because they didn't make enough money.
ceo of reakktor also is a god damn cash grabbing prosche driving bastard. looks kinda good but i will stay away from any reakktor game
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