Crimes & Punishments – Sherlock Holmes
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 11:18    Post subject:


The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. The good things don’t always soften the bad things, but vice versa, the bad things don’t always spoil the good things and make them unimportant.
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 11:25    Post subject:
demde wrote:
Yes it is, but the gameplay is cool. Too bad first crime its from the original stories so i already know who is the killer Laughing

Must been ~16-18 years ago when I read the last books, hopefully I forgot all of that Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 11:26    Post subject:
Eh, they might have changed who the killer really is, it happened with And Then There Were None, a game based on the book by Agatha Christie.
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 11:29    Post subject:
I though of that specially if the killer is linked to the main story and this case is not separate just like tutorial (havent finished it yet just player 15 min to see performance and some gameplay) , but what i saw so far from the investigation is all the same as the case in books.


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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 11:36    Post subject:
I read a review and they mentioned that it's exactly like in the books.
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 17:41    Post subject:
What an amazing game! It really puts to shame LA Noire. This one manages to make you feel that you're actually Sherlock Holmes and that's a big accomplishment. Atmosphere is georgeous, voiceacting is incredible most of the times and the graphics are crisp and beautiful. I'm impressed.


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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 17:56    Post subject:
Ok i solved the first crime and they added few things, but in the end its same. Although the moral choice can lead to other ending i wonder what will change if i chose the other outcome so i will definitely play it twice Razz

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Ok good it seems the second case its not from the official stories. The name and the beginning were similar to one of those i've read and the same that they presented in the "Modern Sherlock" tv series that showed up recently, but its not the same.

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At the end of the case they put fake statistics about how many people solved the crime like me and made same moral decision! I fucking play offline how it finds out? Sherlock needed here Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 18:36    Post subject:
so all the crimes are separate or they are connected somehow? is there some main story going on
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 18:46    Post subject:
Is the game well optimized or kinda demanding?


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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 18:56    Post subject:
Unreal Engine 3 so it runs pretty good, DirectX 11 is used if available too but there's no specific DX11 features used such as tessellation from what I can tell.

EDIT: That said so far the levels have been small boxes though densely detailed. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 19:29    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Unreal Engine 3 so it runs pretty good, DirectX 11 is used if available too but there's no specific DX11 features used such as tessellation from what I can tell.

EDIT: That said so far the levels have been small boxes though densely detailed. Smile


Thanks, will give it a go with my low spec computer, i been able to play some recent titles, was wondering if i could play this one.. usualy anything with UE3 runs at 40 -50 fps ( i have a low end dual core here atm, with a 9600 gt)
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 19:56    Post subject:
demde wrote:
Ok i solved the first crime and they added few things, but in the end its same. Although the moral choice can lead to other ending i wonder what will change if i chose the other outcome so i will definitely play it twice Razz

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I also got the correct conclusion

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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 20:17    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
demde wrote:
Ok i solved the first crime and they added few things, but in the end its same. Although the moral choice can lead to other ending i wonder what will change if i chose the other outcome so i will definitely play it twice Razz

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I also got the correct conclusion

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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 21:18    Post subject:
Ok, i am still a little pissed off that it really holds your hand (like showing you when to use Sherlock sense etc.) and worst of all showing you when you found everything at a certain location.

BUT i've finished case no.2 and i actually replayed it twice (the ending) because i didn't find 2 clues. So its not so bad and i really like the conclusion system...

I'm quite happy, its not a total interactive movie like i though it would be, but the controls are really horrendous obviously made for gamepads... and the fucking mouse acceleration is driving me up the wall. Just hope the cases become more complicated....
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Oct 2014 08:35    Post subject:
Just solved Case #2 and its was really good! You can easily pick the wrong conclusion there.
as there is some things that doesn't add up even if you make the right chose.

Only if there was option to toggle some of the hints on/off and this game could be almost perfect!


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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Oct 2014 14:43    Post subject:
Love this game Smile Shame it come out in a busy month, and will most likely be ignored by many.


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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Oct 2014 18:33    Post subject:
Sorry but the chemical puzzle is not possible without second green gradient. You simply can't complete the second cycle without one more green gradient.
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Oct 2014 18:36    Post subject:
Its quite possible think it over again.


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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Oct 2014 18:39    Post subject:
I always go to the last one gradient and it fails because the cycle is not completed. Either the orange is not the third one or the transparent is not after the orange.
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Oct 2014 18:42    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Oct 2014 18:48    Post subject:
I'm glad you guys find the game good, I was afraid this was going to be another Murdered: Soul Suspect!

Fucking loved LA Noire despite it's shortcomings, and from what I've gathered this is an even better detective game in many respects.

Bought on steam Very Happy Unfortunately my backlog won't allow me to play it just yet, still have to finish replaying Mass Effect 1, then Ether One, then Slender GOG. Not to mention Middle Earth: SoM. Going to be a great winter.
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Oct 2014 18:56    Post subject:
demde, I won't click it 'cause I want to solve it by myself but thanks anyway Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Oct 2014 22:15    Post subject:
So finished it and i'm rather disappointed to be honest. I blame Telltale for everything because the game is piss easy and offers no challenge whatsoever. Even the deduction thingy that i like is vastly underused, because some of the conclusions are absurd. Its piss easy to get the right result at the end (the only one that i missed was the second case which i also liked the most). Same goes for the famous disguises. Used twice in the game and thats it. But i'm guessing DLC's are incoming shortly.

The puzzles are piss easy, exploration is 0 since everything is presented to you, some of the minigames are beyond bad and totally pointless.

I won't lie, i kinda liked it (but i like almost anything Sherlock), but if this is the way adventure games are headed its sad. I like that they don't do the same thing over and over but dumbing down to this level is too much. I thought you could fail something....well i was wrong. Anything you get wrong can be attempted again and its impossible not to get all the clues since the game tells you EVERYTHING you need to do.

Also its quite short. Case 4 quite surprised me since i though they were going to make the cases longer and longer. Nope.
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Oct 2014 22:27    Post subject:
Hmm that's similar to the criticism from RPS in their "Wot-i-think" article for the game.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/09/30/wot-i-think-sherlock-holmes-crimes-punishments/
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Oct 2014 22:29    Post subject:
I just finished case 2, I really liked it. Very Happy I totally could see a different outcome had I used Deduction differently. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Oct 2014 22:36    Post subject:
Cool adventure game. How long does it take to beat it?
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Oct 2014 22:45    Post subject:
It takes around 2 hours per case as far as I saw, and I think there are 6 cases, so ~12 hours?
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Oct 2014 22:46    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Hmm that's similar to the criticism from RPS in their "Wot-i-think" article for the game.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/09/30/wot-i-think-sherlock-holmes-crimes-punishments/


Just read it. I don't think its that bad, but then again i'm used to adventure games since i play them all the time and i have a bit of a different criteria for them as other games. But yeah the conclusion system could have been so much more and if the game would let you ask certain questions to suspects you could clear everything up quite fast (but it doesn't). I just feel they went to far down the Telltale path without strong writing and voice acting, which is paramount in these types of games. I agree with him that a whole lot of work has gone into the game, but it isn't used for much.

Its all just too casual. I mean you have really stupid QTE minigames that really don't fit the game at all. Or using Toby (the dog) for sniffing, where you basically play the dog and follow a trail a blind man couldn't miss. I fail to see the point of it.

ace2kx wrote:
Cool adventure game. How long does it take to beat it?


I never know how long i play these games but it was rather short. I'd say 6-8 hours. Men.

Neon wrote:
It takes around 2 hours per case as far as I saw, and I think there are 6 cases, so ~12 hours?


Nah. First one is over in 30 - 45 mins and the fourth one is kinda the same length.
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Oct 2014 22:56    Post subject:
Thanks men for input.
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