I agree Ixi, been whining on gaming becoming mainstream for years now. When I was younger I always talked how cool it would be if it were as accepted as reading a book or watching a movie... an activity that everyone could participate in.
How it turned out is not what I wanted tho... dumbing down, over socialized features, overly sensitive people, thousands of crapware,...
Nope then I'd rather go back to the days were people looked weird at me for disappearing for 2 weeks because FF8 released (yes even staying home from school ) or not having spoken to someone for an entire weekend because I got a full box of diskettes with the newest games of that month.
Ah, I misread the petition shit as the developers actually pulling the plug on the project. A bit late here. Good that it's not cancelled and hopefully won't be, there are more people who like the project than the ones who don't.. as it seems.
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He knows it's inevitable that Valve and most other digital retailers will cave to pressure and refuse to sell it.
Also, this. But who knows, maybe Valve won't care that much and will agree to have it on Steam. : D
Btw, why didn't Hotline: Miami get this kind of attention ?
lol online petitions, like they've ever done anything.
Im sure the devs are loving the free press though, they are bound to get more sales than other indie games that are made to pander to the masses, yet go straight to the back pages on steam after a couple hours after release.
In 10 years I bet the opponents of Hatred will act the same way they do about Postal now, saying it was tongue in cheek or just social commentary. fucking hypocrites.
Worst part is if we go down the rabbit hole of censoring this game you suddenly give a platform to all these anti-violence advocates who were complaining about the GTA games and Manhunt for example. Funny thing is these people who are disgusted by Hatred are many the same people who praise and give a pass to Rockstar with GTA or explain Manhunt with 'oh but you're killing other psychopaths and murderers so ultra violence is fine then'.
How are they going to counter the resurgence of complaints from anti-violence politicians and other 'higher ups' when they start going after the violent games that Hatred haters feel are fine? This is such a slippery slope since trying to draw a line in the sand about how violent games can be is just impossible.
It would be better if games were just more widely accepted as art since you could always blame it on them being nutty artists then.
I'll sign that all day and post it on FB/Twitter too
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Men I miss the days when I was just a lil' neckbeard fella immersed in its own magic niche world, happily slaughtering pedestrians in Carmageddon, dismembering people is SoF, killing children in Fallout and going postal in postal without morality priests interfering with my hobby, no dumblr generations, nothing.
Hehe, you're awesome ixi. Always. I'd completely forgotten about Carmageddon too .. no context, no plot, just lots and lots of blood and gore and running down pedestrians for no other reason than to amass points. Lots of points.
<3
The hilarious thing is, Reincarnation is out already (well the Early access thingy), and nobody has anything to say against it, as it should be
But Hatred, so edgy and cruel, the devs should be put in jail for it. How can they slap! A very prophetic name, hatred, isn't it.
Btw, why didn't Hotline: Miami get this kind of attention ?
i didn`t play it for longer than an hour maybe but as far as i remember,you only kill white people
Because it's more stylized and tongue in cheek, plus that 80's soundtrack man. Meanwhile Hatred is made by eastern european neo-nazis and the purpose of the game is to simulate school shootings.
Oh I forgot the /sarcasm tag.
By the way you can kill cops in Hotline Miami, but I guess that's alright.
NeoGAF supports people playing games that they want to. That said, the forum is not duty-bound to be a platform for titles of a toxic nature. Enforcing standards on repulsive products such as BattleRaper, RapeLay, Criminal Girls and others is part and parcel of how we work, and Hatred will also receive no oxygen here.
I've never really played an evil character in a game before. Looks like I get a chance to now
Same here :\ No matter what game I play, I never play the villain. I always choose the good/neutral paths and it bugs the hell out of me... I *want* to be the bad guy, goddamnit, why am I incapable of choosing Renegade/Dark Side options!?
because being an (openly) evil character sucks most of the time in terms of gameplay/rewards.
you kill someone, there is less content later compared to sparing him/her
from a purely opportunistic point of view being good is the better evil. the key being reciprocal altruism
you make friends that sometimes will even sacrifice yourself for you (very useful), usually get to accumulate more resources/money/rewards, there is generally less resistance in getting what you want the more people like you etc.
There's that, certainly, but often I feel like it's something more. I'm going to replay ME again soon and this time I'm going to make sure I do it Renegade style
I think this is actually pretty fucked up and disgraceful. Not because what is shown in the trailer, but what the dev said. If this really is for "Pure gaming pleasure/ It's just a game", then why the clearly controversial direction? Mario is pure gaming pleasure, if you have Mario start murdering everyone with amplified gore just because Peach got kidnapped, then you're doing this for attention. It's for shock factor, but instead of just being in the game, it's for the marketing as well.
And "Player has to ask himself what can push any human being to mass-murder. "
There's that, certainly, but often I feel like it's something more. I'm going to replay ME again soon and this time I'm going to make sure I do it Renegade style
you have to choose a femshep for Renegade playthrough, she has better voice acting for this playstyle
Mark Meer shepard sounds too nice all the time
There's always going to be something "controversial" - Wolfenstein 3D was once controversial.
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Mario is pure gaming pleasure, if you have Mario start murdering everyone with amplified gore just because Peach got kidnapped, then you're doing this for attention.
How is that even remotely close to a fair comparison? You'd be taking an existing IP/franchise and warping it, so of course it would be just for attention and it would be offensive to fans of the series. This builds off nothing (except the classic Postal, which I feel people continue to ignore.. all this in "Hatred" was done before; 17 years ago. Please stop acting like this is some new shocking turn of events) and from what we've read so far, the developers are clearly aware of the "shock factor" and "doing it for attention" - I kind of figured that was the point.
Shocktrooper wrote:
you have to choose a femshep for Renegade playthrough, she has better voice acting for this playstyle
Mark Meer shepard sounds too nice all the time
Here's a good video from Machinima where they defend the game's right to exist (and even say they think it looks interesting), and argue that people shouldn't call for it to be banned just because it offends them.
I think this is actually pretty fucked up and disgraceful. Not because what is shown in the trailer, but what the dev said. If this really is for "Pure gaming pleasure/ It's just a game", then why the clearly controversial direction? Mario is pure gaming pleasure, if you have Mario start murdering everyone with amplified gore just because Peach got kidnapped, then you're doing this for attention. It's for shock factor, but instead of just being in the game, it's for the marketing as well.
And "Player has to ask himself what can push any human being to mass-murder. "
Because there are too many Marioish games out there. And there's Mario. Why make Mario? Clearly there aren't many games like this. But hey if they rewrote the story and made it so your entire town was body snatched and you're the only human left and it's your quest to kill all the body snatchers you can even if they're pretending to be not body snatchers before they body snatch you, I'm sure everybody would be OK with that.
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) or not having spoken to someone for an entire weekend because I got a full box of diskettes with the newest games of that month. 
I'll sign that all day and post it on FB/Twitter too 
