Where do servers come from...?
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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 10:44    Post subject: Where do servers come from...?
Aside from the "when one server loves another server very much..." story.. I am curious as to where all these gaming servers come from these days...

Why do people have so much bandwidth, and how in the hell can they afford to run them?

Even if I wanted to host something out where I live, it just isn't an option, no ISP provides anything better than cable with weak upload, and if I did push for something custom, it'd be like hundreds of dollars a month.

Yet we see 34589340985034534 counter-strike servers, 4590384583094 battlefield 2 servers, etc, etc, etc...

Who the hell is providing bandwidth? and how can all these people afford such things?

The only way I've ever seen that makes any sense is the server rental businesses out there, but they are so damn expensive, how do people fund that crap? I don't imagine many people do them, or am I wrong? Besides, it always takes them too long to update their services to host new games.

So if anyone could enlighten me to the world of servers and such, I'd appreciate it.


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 10:56    Post subject:
Most people use hosting companies like Jolt and Multiplay (european examples) who host their servers at major data centres like Redbus, which is plugged directly into the backbone of the internet and has unlimited bandwith.

These companies are not damn expensive, they are quite allright if you got a job. For kids, however, they might seem expensive.

Of course, there are always private people on 10mbit and whatnot who host their own servers.

I'm sure somebody can give an even more extensive explaination than mine.


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 10:58    Post subject:
You can also rent server.
In germany you get a server with a 10Mbit flat for 199 euro
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 11:19    Post subject:
Every company around the world with a half decent line and a geeky tech admin. I need say nothing more!
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 11:26    Post subject:
[sYn] wrote:
Every company around the world with a half decent line and a geeky tech admin. I need say nothing more!


but these guys usually don't use their lines for game servers Wink
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 11:31    Post subject:
Don't believe them Stooz. It's the magical server fairy with her magic glittery bandwidth dust. She's related to the tooth fairy but they're so busy they've never actually met.

Wink


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 11:37    Post subject:
wrong section Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 11:42    Post subject:
ShadowX wrote:
wrong section Smile


??

where should it go then??

Its about games (ok game servers) ... but imo this is the correct section for it...
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 11:46    Post subject: Re: Where do servers come from...?
sTo0z wrote:
Who the hell is providing bandwidth? and how can all these people afford such things?
So if anyone could enlighten me to the world of servers and such, I'd appreciate it.


There are tons of hosting companies who specialize in providing gameservers or have daughter companies who do that. There's a lot of money to be made in providing services for gamers. Apart from gameservers, they usually provide a bit of webspace to host a clanpage and offer things like voice servers and bouncers.
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 11:53    Post subject:
1mbit/s upload is more than enugh to provide -100 ping 18 player servers. And alot of people in the EU have 8mbit/s download 1mbit/s upload, at a cheaper price than the lower speeds.


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 12:26    Post subject:
Mind you own buissness , son
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 12:33    Post subject:
For example in sweden broadband is very cheap. i got 10Mbit both ways and i pay 195SEK per month, thats around 16euro or so and around $24US ... and these connections are availible for MANY people all around sweden from various ISPs.. Bredbandsbolaget is even raising all their fibreconnections to 100/10 for 395SEK a month..
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 12:43    Post subject:
for instance in sweden its not unusual that ppl got 10mbit, almost evryone i "know" over the internet got 10mbit and they offen run game servers
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 12:45    Post subject:
SpaceWiz wrote:
For example in sweden broadband is very cheap. i got 10Mbit both ways and i pay 195SEK per month, thats around 16euro or so and around $24US ... and these connections are availible for MANY people all around sweden from various ISPs.. Bredbandsbolaget is even raising all their fibreconnections to 100/10 for 395SEK a month..


WoW Shocked Thats cheap, i have a 3000/512 connection for 30 euro/month.
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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 13:30    Post subject:
So people can shell out $300 per month for these things? That seems ridiculous to me, even for people with jobs.


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 15:36    Post subject:
i know alot of people who are organized in "clans", and those clans usually have the members pay a monthly fee so they can get game servers for their clan. Easiest way. Although i dislike clans
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 15:53    Post subject:
I have 128kbits upload. I can run a css server for 2 players but one of them must camp in order not to suck up the bandwidth...lol

I'm a leecher in these things. I don't "serve", they "serve" me Wink


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 16:05    Post subject:
my bandwidth is already sucked dry, because of the servu-ftp-server i m running =)
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 16:26    Post subject:
well as said - there are companies that rent servers ie. 50 €/month, 18 players, 100mbit line. Then there are these "clan members"..well some are "real" clans => playing on cb ladders and so on but there are also "just a grp of ppl" that likes to play and are ready to pay small amount of money for that + as running public server are willing to let others also play on their servers.

running own server at home...eh..I know it's been done by many and for "many" reasons but..running comp 24/7..no thx. Renting is easier + cheaper (per person as you dont have to pay electric bills Wink). Tho I think probably most server that you can see on server lists are those home servers, be on 24/7 or just sometimes.
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 16:36    Post subject:
-Spikey- wrote:
SpaceWiz wrote:
For example in sweden broadband is very cheap. i got 10Mbit both ways and i pay 195SEK per month, thats around 16euro or so and around $24US ... and these connections are availible for MANY people all around sweden from various ISPs.. Bredbandsbolaget is even raising all their fibreconnections to 100/10 for 395SEK a month..


WoW Shocked Thats cheap, i have a 3000/512 connection for 30 euro/month.


Which provider? I have 3400/512 for 50 euro a month. 20 euro cheaper seems better to me. Neutral
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 16:41    Post subject:
I always thought they came from the FBI & Interpol....


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 16:42    Post subject:
got 20mbit down / 1mbit up for 27,50 euro include free phone to all local phone numbers in the country (not mobil numbers and paid numbers)
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 16:45    Post subject:
Can you please send an email to my isp with your speeds, price, etc? I pay almost double for 1mbit/128kbits...


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 17:19    Post subject:
SpaceWiz wrote:
raising all their fibreconnections to 100/10 for 395SEK a month..



I pay more for a 1mbit/128 kbit connection.


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 17:21    Post subject:
Mutantius wrote:
SpaceWiz wrote:
raising all their fibreconnections to 100/10 for 395SEK a month..



I pay more for a 1mbit/128 kbit connection.


Ouch =)
I don't know why we get it so cheap here.. but i'm not complaining, i love my 10Mbit, i've had it for 7 years and couldn't live without it Wink
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 17:25    Post subject:
" where do servers come from"


well , when a daddy server loves a mummy server...
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 17:41    Post subject:
whalesick wrote:
" where do servers come from"


well , when a daddy server loves a mummy server...


THAT was the answer I was waiting for. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 18:17    Post subject:
Hmm I have 100/10Mbit Fibreoptic for ~20$ / Month. I have a P4 1.8Ghz - 512Ram as server aswell, so np running gameservers here Smile
Of course, I live in Sweden / Gothenburg.
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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 18:52    Post subject:
Svenskgurka wrote:
whalesick wrote:
" where do servers come from"


well , when a daddy server loves a mummy server...


THAT was the answer I was waiting for. Smile


But I already said "aside from" that in the first post... he fails it. Sad


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 19:10    Post subject:
Jenni wrote:
Don't believe them Stooz. It's the magical server fairy with her magic glittery bandwidth dust. She's related to the tooth fairy but they're so busy they've never actually met.

Wink


Jenni's right. But don't forget the hacker fairy who work with server fairy. She's the one who put the moth** fu*king hackers Mad on game server (But that's another debate Wink )..
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