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Baleur




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 00:27    Post subject:
Lollerzz i'm getting it in the mail today, didnt get it yesterday, and it couldnt have been released earlier?! Laughing
Hmm, what to do what to do, since i've bought it, i might as well install properly using the dvd and my unique cdkey, BUT will it work to use the sfcure version mounted afterwards, with that cdkey? :S
Since i gotta unplug my dvd drives to play UFO Aftershock, World Racing 2 etc, i gotta pick Very Happy
But i cant install via the sfcure version, cuz i need a proper cdkey for future updates and shiiit, right? SIGH
Well can always hope that the sfcure image can work as a sort of mini(huge)-image so i dont have to have my dvd plugged in more than just for installation =D


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WiCKed666




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 00:30    Post subject:
too lazy to unplug the drive Sad
hope we will see cracked us release soon if it will be sr7 Smile


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childofbhaal




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 00:38    Post subject:
Unlikely. Apparantly this is the Enlight version. If this IS the enlight version, then it means both the enlight and deepsilver version will use Starforce.
I don't know why you classify those who decided not to install Starforce games a n00bs. I can attribute (and I did a fair amount of research on it) 2 failures of my computer to SF. First my old PCs DVD-RW, then my Old PCs 2nd HDD (120gb. Funnily enough, this is were I kept all isos, legit and other as well as installed my games). Whats that saying about trick me thrice?

I am just hoping that this is really the deepsilver version, or something that was shipped thorugh GoGamer. I am hoping an praying, but I doubt it (They was an option to get the game early through GoGamer, but they were basically shipped in from the UK)

If this REALLY is the Deepsilver release, will the game be re-released? I guess its easy enough to check, when installing it, lookout for publisher logos.


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Baleur




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Location: South Sweden
PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 01:07    Post subject:
How to you make an image like this off your original dvd? Someone tell me! Razz dont wanna have to have the damn dvdreader plugged in


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WiCKed666




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 01:23    Post subject:
2Baleur it's easy. Install latest version of a120%, run it, select image making wizard, select your drive, choose never separate image, then choose data position measurement, precision high, later select speed 1-4x for dpm. Thats how i made working dvd image of scct...


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dr.pat




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 01:31    Post subject:
Quote:
2Baleur it's easy. Install latest version of a120%, run it, select image making wizard, select your drive, choose never separate image, then choose data position measurement, precision high, later select speed 1-4x for dpm. Thats how i made working dvd image of scct...



Do not forget to uninstall SF drivers from your computer with sfdrvrem.exe.
Otherwise SF will interfere in de dpm measurement process.
Wink
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immylatus




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 03:22    Post subject:
Whats the method to setup with yanking the IDE on your CD-ROM?''

1) Need Windows XP2

***2) Yank ide drive cable to CD/DVD?? Help! (Do you still need to run setup from sfcuretool.rar?)

3) Mount image in Daemon Tools and install game

***4) Run sfdrup to update (if you actually have to do those steps since you HAVE no CD drive) and reboot

***5) Launch !start.bat (again not sure if you need to do this)

***6) Use starforce nightmare?

***7) Disable Node/Disable CD/Disable Node..

Cool Launch Game

***Means I'm not sure if this is still needed to be done.

Any help from you guru's would be nice, thanks.
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Baleur




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 04:37    Post subject:
Well Immylatus (btw thanks wicked666 =), you gotta do everything you normally do, that is every step that says. The only reason for yanking out the IDE cable to your dvd/cd drives is because some unlucky brands of dvd/cd drives are blacklisted, and then the normal sfcure method wont work.
But pulling out the IDE cables, then doing the normal sfcure method as usual, then it will work Smile
You just gotta make sure the computer doesnt detect any dvd/cd drives (if yours happen to be one of those brands that are blacklisted), thats the only reason for unplugging the ide cables Smile


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Baleur




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 06:08    Post subject:
It should definetly work, both since its a clone, but also since the patch actually lowers the starforce protection from 3.6 to 3.5 Smile


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paraiso36




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 06:09    Post subject:
Good Night,

Maybe this is a newbie question for someone but I have never played a game protected with SF because it is really annoying all the steps that must be followed. But now I really wante to play X3 and my question is the following:

I have installed in my system the original game Silent Hunter III, so I have Starforce in my system. If I follow all the steps to play X3, may the original SH3 interfere with this procedure?. Futhermore, will I be able to play SH3 without troubles?..Thanks...
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Baleur




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 09:26    Post subject:
Well its not that annoying, once you get it set up you can get a game running in just 4 mouse clicks.


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XTC0r




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 12:03    Post subject:
anyone tried to get X3 running under Win2k ?
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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2005 08:54    Post subject:
Man, ive done everything the nfo says...and it doesnt work...anyone have any ideas? i was looking forward to this game...and since i havent played many space sims, i wanted to try this out before i bought it...if i cant try it, i wont buy it...


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Gideon25




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2005 10:22    Post subject:
Yea, I was able to play the starforce protected Space Rangers 2 when it was first released but for some reason can't get this one to work.
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shuvit82




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2005 13:55    Post subject:
i've tried playing this release and followed the nfo step-by-step... when launching the game, it keeps accessing my SATA DVD Burner (Plexwriter 716 SA) and tells me to insert the game into a different drive... you guys got any ideas? and yeah Syco you're absolutely right, I'm not gonna spend 50 bucks on a game I haven't seen in action, which is reportedly not running well on most rigs out there
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isthar




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2005 16:16    Post subject:
I got it working without much trouble... from a post I made elsewhere...

woah, that wasn't hard to get it running!?

ok heres what *I* did and it worked like a charm. NO SFNIGHTMARE INVOLVED (!!!) [or well, maybe, depends if it survives reboots or not]

*AT ANY STEP REMOVE THE DATA CABLE FROM YOUR DVD BURNER* (i have just one, a plextor burner)

Patch X3 to 1.2
Remove all starforce crap using their removal tool, reboot since it asks.
Come back, install sfcure "0.3" (i.e. run the setup, so it installs the service), then reboot.
Once you're back:
a) get rid of daemon tools (just its virtual drives and exit it if its running. i did not uninstall it). UNSURE if this was necessary but this was necessary sinec I used d-tools to install it from "G" drive and I wanted that free for...
b) use alcohol 120% latest WITH RPMS EMULATION ON mounting the image

To play the game, start the sfcure service (!start) and then run it! EDIT: Of course the game will reinstall starforce at this point, and may even ask for a reboot. Let it do so, after the reboot start the sfcure service, and run the game!

I did at some point in my trials run sfnightmare but I have NOT run it since my last reboot and guess what, x3 loads!

Now I'm most likely still going to buy it, but this will let me try it out in the meantime. I went to the main menu and OMG it looked laggy but we'll see...

YIKES! Lag is a kind word... P4 2.4Ghz, 1Gig Ram, Radeon 9700. Imho its unplayable at the moment. Sigh.

EDIT: Final note: Like someone else said, the game will launch properly... like 1 in 2 times or something. Sometimes the checking disc prompt will hang. In that case I actually kill protect.exe then X3.exe and wait until all processes calm down (cpu stops being pegged) then just try again. It goes through eventually.

-- nforce people, i'd love to know if you think sfnightmare does permament changes (and thus it IS needed) or if its not needed, because i reboot and all i do is sfcure then run the game!
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n3on_andelor




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2005 19:52    Post subject:
doesnt work for me. sf nightmare also doesnt work on my xp sp2...dunno why.
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beatnguffs




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2005 20:44    Post subject:
sfcuretool.rar :CCC

beatngu at doesntgiveafuck dot nl pr3tty pl3se
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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2005 23:13    Post subject:
Baleur's method from the PC Games X3 thread works like a charm...even after u disable the drives MANUALLY, u have to disable them in SFN...Disable CD and Disable Node and use SFcure DOS version, run !start.bat BEFORE u run SFN, make sure ur IDE cable is unplugged, disable cd and disable node, and it will work Smile


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beatnguffs




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2005 23:17    Post subject:
nice, but i got this from torrent dash galaxy dot 2, without the sfcuretools. very smart of them lol, generally fucked, cant get it anywhere
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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2005 23:19    Post subject:
www.gamecopyworld.com - click the Cd Media World link...they have tons of tools...


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artik




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Nov 2005 03:42    Post subject:
Arggg hehe =)
just one question, where to find (i'm under win2k) the "win2k3 node disabler ? ? it a soft or an option ? tried to find it, but no found it Sad
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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Nov 2005 03:44    Post subject:
Virtual CD Hide


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Murd3r




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Nov 2005 13:26    Post subject:
is SP2 really required ? :O Anyone tried it with SP1 ?
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n3on_andelor




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Nov 2005 13:37    Post subject:
Finally got it to work. Situation before:

SFCure worked fine, SFN didnt work for me (didnt respond to anything), tried alternatives for hiding my virtual drive - didnt help.

Then i reinstalled my xp sp2, SFN works now, game starts without any troubles now. BUT i had to disconnect my IDE drives, SFN didnt help here.

So if u arent a completly computer idiot, u may make a fresh xp sp2 install and maybe you´re lucky Wink
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n3on_andelor




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Nov 2005 13:38    Post subject:
Murd3r wrote:
is SP2 really required ? :O Anyone tried it with SP1 ?


It is definitly required.
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Murd3r




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Nov 2005 13:40    Post subject:
n3on_andelor wrote:
Murd3r wrote:
is SP2 really required ? :O Anyone tried it with SP1 ?


It is definitly required.


crap ... thanks for the quick answer Wink
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PePPe2k




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Nov 2005 14:48    Post subject:
I haven't tried it, but I've heard that a prog named winrun pro can help to speed up the game. Check it out at: www.wswpro.de Try to switch off registry and autorun with it.

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crazylegs




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Nov 2005 01:00    Post subject:
really in need of some help over here....

can't seem to get past the copy protection and i swear i have followed the NFO instructions

any other methods / ideas as to how i can play this game???
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adfes




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Nov 2005 14:47    Post subject:
crazylegs wrote:
really in need of some help over here....

can't seem to get past the copy protection and i swear i have followed the NFO instructions

any other methods / ideas as to how i can play this game???


0-Remove the power and IDE cable from your DVD driver (i juste remove my sec slave driver)
1-Mount the image with alcohol
2-In command prompt execute !start.bat
3-In starforce nigthmare disable CD then Node
4-Hope that's work Laughing
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