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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 13:52    Post subject:
I'm contemplating on which class to play on my first playthrough on hard. I'd ideally like to play the class in my party composition that requires the most micromanagement and have the AI play on it's own as much as possible. Any opinions on which classes behave well under AI control and which are complete disasters?
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 13:53    Post subject:
Haven has stables. Near Iron Bull's location.

And that quest, yea, took me an hour to summon the grave. Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 14:00    Post subject:
Got a really nice looking (and with good stats) dagger for a Rogue Surprised Too bad I'm not a Rogue. It's from that Red Lyrium Weapon Pack

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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 14:04    Post subject:
You have to run clock-wise and as close to the statue as possible trying to touch it.
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 14:13    Post subject:
@lolozaur

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btw those ice/fire mines are so cool and OP, thought they were crap til a friend told me to get them asap because of insane damage Surprised


Oh? I tried the fire one and didn't like it. The damage is good but it's a single target spell and considering how many points you need to dump into a tree to get down to these skills....


I didn't like fire wall either. It does a good damage but enemies just run away feared. And there is only one shape available. Why can't we cast it however we like? Say,in a circle form etc.
Blizzard seems to be more useful imho.


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 14:49    Post subject:
h0rnyfavn wrote:
@scaramonga

I have everything maxed at 1920x1200 except for

1) msaa- disabled
2) shadows- low

If "optimal" means running at rock solid 60 fps then these settings are most certainly not "optimal" for my rig

In some Hinterlands areas (Redcliffe) I get like 35-50fps Laughing Generally fps is all over the place. From 35 to 90+. It depends on the area and what I see on my screen.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 14:50    Post subject:
So basically it's a broken piece of shit that brings Titans down even with AA disabled?

Great fucking job, BioWare. I guess I can expect a "smooth!" 30-40 on a 780 then.
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dsergei




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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 14:54    Post subject:
4470k + 780Ti here - runs pretty well with everything maxed except the AA. Only the cutscenes seem to have some weird frame limit so it's a bit choppy.
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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 14:55    Post subject:
dsergei wrote:
You have to run clock-wise and as close to the statue as possible trying to touch it.

i tried many distances, from what i saw on youtube even if you run 2m away from the statue still works, but for me the mob doesnt spawn no matter what
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 14:56    Post subject:
[DA:O]==============================[DA2]

Place DA:I on the line accordingly as you see it. What it leans more towards?
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 15:01    Post subject:
[DA:O]================================================[DA:I][DA2]
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 15:04    Post subject:
[DA:I][DA:O]===============================================[DA2]
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 15:05    Post subject:
H4wkeye wrote:
Got a really nice looking (and with good stats) dagger for a Rogue Surprised Too bad I'm not a Rogue. It's from that Red Lyrium Weapon Pack

Where'd you find it? None of them turned up for me, even though I unlocked them through that stupid video pixel hunt. I guess they would be pointless now, as I am level 21 and almost done, but they might be useful in a future playthrough.
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 15:27    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
[DA:O]================================================[DA:I][DA2]

deadpoetic wrote:
[DA:I][DA:O]===============================================[DA2]


Lel.

Also, Upset Ulrich review:

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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 15:35    Post subject:
Please... stop it...
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 15:38    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
So basically it's a broken piece of shit that brings Titans down even with AA disabled?

Great fucking job, BioWare. I guess I can expect a "smooth!" 30-40 on a 780 then.


They have post-processing AA whatever it means. It's a separate option. I have it enabled.

All in all,I'd say what I get is pretty consistent with what these guys got
http://www.techspot.com/review/921-dragon-age-inquisition-benchmarks/

However, they say that
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The Ultra quality preset was used which sets rendering features such as mesh, tessellation, texture, shadow, terrain, vegetation, water, post-process and effects to their maximum value. Meanwhile ambient occlusion is set to HBAO (horizon-based ambient occlusion) and multisampling anti-aliasing is set to 2xMSAA.


It's not actually true.
If you select ultra preset some settings won't be maxed out:
Tessellation: high (max=ultra)
Texture quality: ultra (max=fade touched)
Post-processing: high (max=ultra)

DAI's benchmark sucks btw..

- it doesn't show max fps,only min and average
- it's short
- it doesn't have real fps killer areas like Redcliffe.
- it's a cutscene! and this game has strange fps problems with cutscenes.

Anyways, here are my results (1920x1200, nothing is OCed)

Ultra preset(2x msaa):

- Avg 47-48 fps (same result as techspot got)

Custom preset (ultra+everything else maxed+2x msaa)

- Avg 39.9 fps

Custom preset ( everything maxed, shadows=low, msaa disabled)

- Avg 53 fps

PS I have the game installed on hdd though not SSD, but I made several test runs.


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 15:41    Post subject:
Divvy wrote:
I'm contemplating on which class to play on my first playthrough on hard. I'd ideally like to play the class in my party composition that requires the most micromanagement and have the AI play on it's own as much as possible. Any opinions on which classes behave well under AI control and which are complete disasters?

I'm playing a rogue, it's a lot of fun (if you don't play it Rambo style). I find the AI pretty good, eveyone does what he/she is supposed to do. Funnily, only the rogue AI seems a bit weird, thank god I control the rogue. When I let my character do his thing, he cloaks, runs into a group and gets murdered. I find that strange since enemy rogues are pretty smart, they use hit and run tactics like I do.
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 15:47    Post subject:
h0rnyfavn wrote:
Anyways, here are my results (1920x1200, nothing is OCed)

Ultra preset(2x msaa):

- Avg 47-48 fps

Custom preset (ultra+everything else maxed+2x msaa)

- Avg 39.9 fps


On a 3770k and a Titan.

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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 16:02    Post subject:
Yeah, smth is wrong in this mad world...
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 16:13    Post subject:
I am on a 2500K + R9 290, 1080p, maxed out except running on 2xMSAA and in wide open areas with lots of "nature" flying around, like Hinterlands, it usually doesn't go below 45 or so. In other areas it's mostly 60+ so far, but I haven't been to Redcliff.

I wouldn't call this broken - it runs pretty good for how it looks, and performance is actually very consistent in terms of frametimes. Even at under 60 fps it feels rather smooth
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 16:17    Post subject:
39-60 on a game that doesn't look as good as some are claiming, yet requiring 780ti/Titan/980 class hardware most certainly is broken in my view. It's frankly amazing what PC gamers are willing to put up with these days Poker Face
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 16:20    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
39-60 on a game that doesn't look as good as some are claiming, yet requiring 780ti/Titan/980 class hardware most certainly is broken in my view. It's frankly amazing what PC gamers are willing to put up with these days Poker Face



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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 16:35    Post subject:
If this is indeed true, then even AC:Unity runs better than this Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 16:38    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
If this is indeed true, then even AC:Unity runs better than this Laughing Laughing

I've played both, AC:U does not run better. Not by a long shot. I have an AMD GPU though, no idea how important that is.
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 16:39    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
39-60 on a game that doesn't look as good as some are claiming, yet requiring 780ti/Titan/980 class hardware most certainly is broken in my view. It's frankly amazing what PC gamers are willing to put up with these days Poker Face

I would only call it broken if it scaled quite badly with hardware or settings, like some certain ports. This game responds quite well to tweaking - in the same spot and situation, went from 45 on maxed out, to 100 on medium, 120 under Mantle.

Some other findings on performance:

I noticed that VSync is still kinda "broken" under DX, just as it was in BF4. It did not happen when running at a lower framerate, but on medium settings I lose around 20fps for having it enabled (drops from 100 to 80).
In BF4 they had fixed this in Mantle, but in this game it suffers from a similar issue - Mantle has a lot of CPU spikes with Vsync enabled, so you get very frequent drops to 100 from 120, in effect losing about 20 fps and subjective "smoothness".

Curiously, under DX11 VSync makes the game run very smoothly if with lower framerate, while under mantle CPU graph is much more consistent with it disabled.

It almost feels like the game is using an older Mantle path, since it kinda has the same issues BF4 did on Mantle launch.
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 16:43    Post subject:
@MinderMast
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maxed out except running on 2xMSAA and in wide open areas with lots of "nature" flying around, like Hinterlands, it usually doesn't go below 45 or so


I've just tried it.

1920x1200. everything maxed out,2x msaa. I saw fps dropping to 30 at dat Hinterlands refugee village. It's totally unacceptable.

And seeing that I got the same benchmark results as techspot on ultra preset (48 fps) I think there is nothing wrong on my side.

PS Do you have mantle enabled or dx11?


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 16:50    Post subject:
h0rnyfavn wrote:
@MinderMast
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maxed out except running on 2xMSAA and in wide open areas with lots of "nature" flying around, like Hinterlands, it usually doesn't go below 45 or so


I've just tried it.

1920x1200. everything maxed out,2x msaa. I saw fps dropping to 30 at dat Hinterlands refugee village.

And seeing that I got the same benchmark results as techspot on ultra preset (48 fps) I think there is nothing wrong on my side.

PS Do you use mantle or dx11?

DX11 at the moment, since Mantle is a bit wonky in this game.
By the refugee village you mean that first one where you meet Mother Giselle or whoever she was (first primary objective in the Hinterlands)?
I can check there...

Also I have Post-AA disabled, which could have some effect I suppose (I have it disabled, because it looks like shit, not for performance considerations Very Happy).
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 16:50    Post subject:
Don't use Mantle for now. It has framedrops and longer loading times.

MinderMast wrote:
Also I have Post-AA disabled, which could have some effect I suppose (I have it disabled, because it looks like shit, not for performance considerations Very Happy).

I also stopped using that AA option and enabled 2xMSAA. For a few fps less, you get a much sharper world.


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 16:51    Post subject:
Is there any way to fix the cutscene slowdown?
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 16:51    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
If this is indeed true, then even AC:Unity runs better than this Laughing Laughing


No.
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