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matta666




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Nov 2014 15:17    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
que?


The button that makes your player follow the player with the ball. The pressure button Smile I think they took it out of 15
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Janz




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Nov 2014 15:18    Post subject:
@matta: nope it still there with passing i think. BUT since they implemented tactical defending i never used it. found it not comfortable. always done it with l2 in fifa
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matta666




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Nov 2014 15:18    Post subject:
oh right, thanks
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Janz




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Nov 2014 15:23    Post subject:
or you ment the cpu pressing? thats r1(rb) in fifa and circle(b) in pes. but as the x(a) pressure botton it hasnt changed in years
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matta666




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Nov 2014 15:25    Post subject:
No, It seems to have changed this year when I played fifa 15 tbh. I found tracking a man much harder. Not that good at the game though.
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fearwhatnow




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Nov 2014 15:26    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
@matta: nope it still there with passing i think. BUT since they implemented tactical defending i never used it. found it not comfortable. always done it with l2 in fifa


Teammate pressure with tactical defending is a joke in FIFA. They just become a shadow of the cpu attacking player without attempting to get the ball. This is not football. This is the reason I use Legacy Defending. I can still contain with LT and send a teammate to apply heavy pressure with the B button.


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Janz




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Nov 2014 15:34    Post subject:
thats not true, ofc you have to attack the attacking player as in most cases the called cpu defender doesnt always get the ball by his own. but thats alright, then you have to get the ball, not the cpu. thats why they removed the option to control the gk (at least for online play in 13(?!?) cause you could have just switched to the gk and the cpu would do all the defending. in case of 15, as i said you have to attack the player OR you chose to block the passing way for the attacking cpu while your other defender trys to attack him
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fearwhatnow




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Nov 2014 15:38    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
thats not true, ofc you have to attack the attacking player as in most cases the called cpu defender doesnt always get the ball by his own. but thats alright, then you have to get the ball, not the cpu. thats why they removed the option to control the gk (at least for online play in 13(?!?) cause you could have just switched to the gk and the cpu would do all the defending. in case of 15, as i said you have to attack the player OR you chose to block the passing way for the attacking cpu while your other defender trys to attack him


Wtf man this is not basketball or water polo! Cpu defenders are there to defend. Why on earth should I control 10 players to defend?


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Janz




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Nov 2014 15:55    Post subject:
and what would be your skill/task to do when the cpu does all the work for you?
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fearwhatnow




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Nov 2014 16:57    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
and what would be your skill/task to do when the cpu does all the work for you?


You can't be serious. You expect the user to control 10 players simultaneously? I want to play off-ball defense and my defenders be able to go for the ball. FIFA 15 vanilla cpu D awareness is non existent. You have to change nearly 10 strings in the ini to fix that. Also zonal/man to man marking is broken in FIFA. These are facts. Trust me, I play nearly 30 years sports videogames and I have the ability to reckon what's wrong and not.


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Janz




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Nov 2014 17:21    Post subject:
nope i dont expect that. i just expect u as a player to do the essential work and not just letting the cpu doint the difficult things. maybe u should as konami that, isnt it possible to control a second player with the right stick in pes?
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Drowning_witch




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2014 11:06    Post subject:
any of player renaming mods completed yet?

I can't play with fake names Smile

I wish pes edit had a light edition with just name changes. they spend so much time adding boots and similar unimportant crap it always takes ages for them, and they usually break a few things every patch Laughing


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fearwhatnow




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2014 11:40    Post subject:
Drowning_witch wrote:
any of player renaming mods completed yet?

I can't play with fake names Smile

I wish pes edit had a light edition with just name changes. they spend so much time adding boots and similar unimportant crap it always takes ages for them, and they usually break a few things every patch Laughing


PESedit will not release a patch for PES 15. There are some patches at pes-patch you might want to check.
The best one so far is this: http://www.pes-patch.com/2014/11/pes-2015-pte-patch-1-0.html

I'm also using this SweetFX: http://www.pes-serbia.com/threads/33686-SweetFX-PES-2015-HD

My settings on RadeoPro: 8xAA, 16xAF, 4xTesselation, HBAO Ultra.
Combined with the SweetFX the graphics are significally improved.


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ixigia
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Nov 2014 06:03    Post subject:
fearwhatnow wrote:
Drowning_witch wrote:
any of player renaming mods completed yet?

I can't play with fake names Smile

I wish pes edit had a light edition with just name changes. they spend so much time adding boots and similar unimportant crap it always takes ages for them, and they usually break a few things every patch Laughing


PESedit will not release a patch for PES 15. There are some patches at pes-patch you might want to check.
The best one so far is this: http://www.pes-patch.com/2014/11/pes-2015-pte-patch-1-0.html

I'm also using this SweetFX: http://www.pes-serbia.com/threads/33686-SweetFX-PES-2015-HD

My settings on RadeoPro: 8xAA, 16xAF, 4xTesselation, HBAO Ultra.
Combined with the SweetFX the graphics are significally improved.

Cheers for these, thankfully even if PESedit is out of the loop this year, there isn't shortage of great community goods.
PESMonkey apparently is trying to fix the brownish pitches as well: http://www.pes-patch.com/2014/11/pesmonkey-pes2015-pitch-weather-mod-v1-0.html

I've been playing the game non-stop lately, and must say that this PES may be rough in terms of presentation, but it's indeed hands down one of the best football games ever made. Konami really nailed it this time.
There's so much depth, variety and satisfaction in every action, that it always feels rewarding. Hats off really, the last time that I enjoyed a football game this much was when I jumped from FIFA 2002 to PES3. Razz
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Drowning_witch




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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Nov 2014 09:33    Post subject:
great to hear ixi wow. gonna have to play soon.


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Fugen




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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2014 14:22    Post subject:
Pro.Evolution.Soccer.2015.Update.1.and.Crack-3DM


chill out man, life is beautifull...
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bonaldo2000




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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Nov 2014 12:06    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
fearwhatnow wrote:
Drowning_witch wrote:
any of player renaming mods completed yet?

I can't play with fake names Smile

I wish pes edit had a light edition with just name changes. they spend so much time adding boots and similar unimportant crap it always takes ages for them, and they usually break a few things every patch Laughing


PESedit will not release a patch for PES 15. There are some patches at pes-patch you might want to check.
The best one so far is this: http://www.pes-patch.com/2014/11/pes-2015-pte-patch-1-0.html

I'm also using this SweetFX: http://www.pes-serbia.com/threads/33686-SweetFX-PES-2015-HD

My settings on RadeoPro: 8xAA, 16xAF, 4xTesselation, HBAO Ultra.
Combined with the SweetFX the graphics are significally improved.

Cheers for these, thankfully even if PESedit is out of the loop this year, there isn't shortage of great community goods.
PESMonkey apparently is trying to fix the brownish pitches as well: http://www.pes-patch.com/2014/11/pesmonkey-pes2015-pitch-weather-mod-v1-0.html

I've been playing the game non-stop lately, and must say that this PES may be rough in terms of presentation, but it's indeed hands down one of the best football games ever made. Konami really nailed it this time.
There's so much depth, variety and satisfaction in every action, that it always feels rewarding. Hats off really, the last time that I enjoyed a football game this much was when I jumped from FIFA 2002 to PES3. Razz


Is this the pc version you are talking about?
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shadak




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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Nov 2014 14:30    Post subject:
I like how PES handles the AI play, passing game in the back when it needs to, doesnt fush forward as often as Fifa AI (even with fidels file) but its a bit strange for some reason, the players are... i dunno .. floaty, the movement is weird
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Nov 2014 01:36    Post subject:
@Bonaldo: yes, of course Razz. The PC version has the same gameplay as the PS4 version, but the graphics are downgraded because computers can't handle next gen gaming yet. One day though, we'll manage to catch up with consoles' insane horsepower!
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Gormadok




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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Nov 2014 09:35    Post subject:
i started my career. i created a noob, i played 3 matches. normal difficulty.
i won first match 5:1 scored and assisted. i was disappointed to see other results like 6:5, 8:3 etc. but i thought that was only a coincidence. 2nd match i won 7:2 and other scores were similar. after third match i resigned and uninstalled this game. there is no realism in it. well, some actions are more realistic than in fifa, but overall its arcade crap with minimum simulation in it.
The only football simulation atm is Football Manager. im not greedy, but i only want to experience a true football life. Japs cant provide it.
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Janz




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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Nov 2014 15:20    Post subject:
@ixi: im sorry, but you're wrong. pc version isnt the exact same gameplay as nextgen
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fearwhatnow




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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Nov 2014 15:43    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
@ixi: im sorry, but you're wrong. pc version isnt the exact same gameplay as nextgen


Official source or gtfo.
Don't come with a response "I've tried both versions and it's not the same".


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Neo_McKane




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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Nov 2014 17:11    Post subject:
How to get rid of the button lag? I hope it's not actually a feature Laughing
I've played 3 matches and almost smashed my gamepad, it's maybe even worse than pes2014


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Janz




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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Nov 2014 17:40    Post subject:
@fearwhatnow : play both and you will see it, so stfu! it was even mentioned in some reviews which compared pc with ps4 version. heck even the konami guy said "almost" everything (excluding the gfx) is the same on all plattforms, but almost is not everything!

@Neo_McKane : its not a bug, its a feature. no way to get rid of it, its not as bad as the last years but still noticable for me
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lunkentuss




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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Nov 2014 21:28    Post subject:
Fugen wrote:
Pro.Evolution.Soccer.2015.Update.1.and.Crack-3DM



The only update that will fix this game is the one converting it to fifa 15 Wink
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bonaldo2000




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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Nov 2014 22:15    Post subject:
Fugen wrote:
Pro.Evolution.Soccer.2015.Update.1.and.Crack-3DM


Is the 3DM release working properly? I really would like to try this out - am pretty sick of FIFA...
If it's good I probably will buy it (and a PS4 - sorry guys!)

EDIT: eh, there's a RELOADED version out - why you guys no talk about that?


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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Nov 2014 22:17    Post subject:
bonaldo2000 wrote:
Fugen wrote:
Pro.Evolution.Soccer.2015.Update.1.and.Crack-3DM


Is the 3DM release working properly? I really would like to try this out - am pretty sick of FIFA...
If it's good I probably will buy it (and a PS4 - sorry guys!)


reloaded patch is out as well

Pro Evolution Soccer 2015 Update v1.01.01-RELOADED
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bonaldo2000




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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Nov 2014 22:19    Post subject:
Drowning_witch wrote:
bonaldo2000 wrote:
Fugen wrote:
Pro.Evolution.Soccer.2015.Update.1.and.Crack-3DM


Is the 3DM release working properly? I really would like to try this out - am pretty sick of FIFA...
If it's good I probably will buy it (and a PS4 - sorry guys!)


reloaded patch is out as well

Pro Evolution Soccer 2015 Update v1.01.01-RELOADED


Ah, you beat me to it! Smile
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Dec 2014 00:06    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
@ixi: im sorry, but you're wrong. pc version isnt the exact same gameplay as nextgen

Oh, well that would be a shame. Haven't played the PS4 version for the obvious reasons so I was resorting to Evo-Web community's comments, which claim that the gameplay/AI are fundamentally the same. Perhaps Konami were referring to game modes and features? Who knows..I'll never know the truth. Razz The only thing that I know is that I like the game a lot (surprisingly if I may add).

As for the lag, I 100% solved it by disabling vertical sync from the Nvidia control panel. There's tearing but at least the annoying delay is gone. A good trade off for me Smile
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Dec 2014 03:25    Post subject:
bonaldo2000 wrote:
Drowning_witch wrote:
bonaldo2000 wrote:


Is the 3DM release working properly? I really would like to try this out - am pretty sick of FIFA...
If it's good I probably will buy it (and a PS4 - sorry guys!)


reloaded patch is out as well

Pro Evolution Soccer 2015 Update v1.01.01-RELOADED


Ah, you beat me to it! Smile

In case you guys want to play online, only from the pirate seas, there's also the Revolt package 1.01, that I applied over the update. Requires a Steam account running on the background (I use a dummy one), but works, with automatic updates, roster upgrades and so on. Razz

If it wasn't for the occasional lag that affects Konami's servers, it would be pretty polished too (it has an in-game chat, regional lobbies for friendlies...EA are you listening.)
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