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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 20:28    Post subject:
Not just any halla, a sacred golden halla. Although if you ask me it just looks like an ordinary halla with a green tinge around the legs.

My Inquisitor was Dalish, for extra lolz.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 20:35    Post subject:
Divvy wrote:
I know, right? I'm getting a solid 60fps in Redcliffe now. Was usually 40-60 before on Win7.


Don't get me wrong though..The game has kinda shitty fps all things considered anyway Very Happy

@sabin1981
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starting over with a fresh 8.1 ISO install.


I've never upgraded windows. tbh.. It has always been a clean install because usually something always gets fucked up. However, before getting rid of win7 I first cloned it (~25gb slightly compressed) just in case Smile And I cloned win 8.1 after I have installed all the apps and stuff.(a backup, in case something happens or my system gets real messy)

@DCB
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My Inquisitor was Dalish, for extra lolz.

Same here.I exterminated several dozens hallas there for crafting materials Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 20:52    Post subject:
Divvy wrote:
Supermax2004 wrote:
@Divvy:
Well here you go then:


1080p, ultra, 2msaa (MFAA on in driver menu = 4MFAA)
What kind of CPU you got? MAYBE that changes a lot? Doubt it but who knows....

By the way there is a texture setting called "touched by the fade" above ultra?! Doesn't change anything performance-wise. At least not that I could see.


OK. I have no idea why but... I installed Windows 8.1 and tried the same location with the same settings and...



Mind Is Full Of Fuck

I've no idea how to explain that. I guess it's true that Windows 8.1 is flat out better for Dragon Age Inquisition, but to that extent!?

I should offer my apologies for doubting you. For once, it wasn't someone lying to extend their e-peen.


Some DirectX 11 extensions are only availale in 8.1. They are emulated in windows versions lower than that, which result in performance drop.

dl;dr if you're still not on 8.1 you dumb.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 21:15    Post subject:
wow
much insult
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 21:19    Post subject:
Zed03 wrote:
dl;dr if you're still not on 8.1 you dumb.

If you say so.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 21:26    Post subject:
its been proven quite a while ago now, that windows 8/8.1 outperform windows 7 and pretty much everything when it comes to gaming
one of few reasons I upgraded as well
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 21:43    Post subject:
scaramonga wrote:
h0rnyfavn wrote:
I've installed win 8.1 today and, holy crap, the game indeed runs better Shocked



Most do Wink Twisted Evil


Many games that require DirectX9 (specifically directdraw) and under work like crap however.

But who cares about those faggots stuck in their 90's and 2000's right?


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 21:45    Post subject:
Before we all switch over to 8.1 I would like to point out that the recommended OS is Win 7 or 8/8.1. It doesn't say at any point that the game would run better with 8/8.1. If that was the case then the min recommended spec would say Win 7 64bit and the recommended spec would be 8/8.1.......wouldn't it Question


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 21:47    Post subject:
Zed03 wrote:

dl;dr if you're still not on 8.1 you dumb.




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 21:53    Post subject:
Smikis. wrote:
its been proven quite a while ago now, that windows 8/8.1 outperform windows 7 and pretty much everything when it comes to gaming
one of few reasons I upgraded as well


http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-gaming/directdraw-emulation-is-broken-in-windows-881/4edfc685-72b2-4688-95ed-c745ddd38825?tm=1401272934879
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 21:55    Post subject:
zibztrollingme wrote:
Smikis. wrote:
its been proven quite a while ago now, that windows 8/8.1 outperform windows 7 and pretty much everything when it comes to gaming
one of few reasons I upgraded as well


http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-gaming/directdraw-emulation-is-broken-in-windows-881/4edfc685-72b2-4688-95ed-c745ddd38825?tm=1401272934879


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DirectDraw was deprecated in DirectX 7 which itself is 14 years old.


Not sure whats your point
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 21:56    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I tried going to Win 8 via upgrading today.

I don't recommend it.

It has been nothing but a headache and a nightmare. I've spent 7 hours trying to unfuck my PC and now I'm simply giving up, wiping everything, starting over with a fresh 8.1 ISO install.


I might try it eventually, but first I'll back up my Win 7 barebones partition


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 22:03    Post subject:
Smikis. wrote:
zibztrollingme wrote:
Smikis. wrote:
its been proven quite a while ago now, that windows 8/8.1 outperform windows 7 and pretty much everything when it comes to gaming
one of few reasons I upgraded as well


http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-gaming/directdraw-emulation-is-broken-in-windows-881/4edfc685-72b2-4688-95ed-c745ddd38825?tm=1401272934879


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DirectDraw was deprecated in DirectX 7 which itself is 14 years old.


Not sure whats your point



Games work great in Win 7 but not in Win 8 so your statement of "win 8 is better for gaming" is erroneous and furthermore you mention "it's been proven" when in reality the proof is the opposite.

We're talking about the same directdraw that is 14 years old which works great in Win 7.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 22:12    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I tried going to Win 8 via upgrading today.

I don't recommend it.

It has been nothing but a headache and a nightmare. I've spent 7 hours trying to unfuck my PC and now I'm simply giving up, wiping everything, starting over with a fresh 8.1 ISO install.

All that to play a game!? Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 22:14    Post subject:
zibztrollingme wrote:
Games work great in Win 7 but not in Win 8

What ?


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 22:17    Post subject:
Vikerness wrote:
zibztrollingme wrote:
Games work great in Win 7 but not in Win 8

What ?



Try playing:

Desperados
Monster Truck Madness 2
Age of Empires (not the HD remakes)
Red Alert 2
Fortune Summoners: Secret of the Elemental Stone

In Windows 8 and see how they work. If you like slideshows then obviously you'll have no issues with it.

That's a list of games that I personally know so there will be plenty of others with the same problems.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 22:20    Post subject:
oh sorry, because we didnt had same issue with windows xp, vista, 2000, 98 and so on, every new version broke some of old games, thats why they added compatibility mode

ps you should blame devs for using deprecated features/functions, as you usually know years in advance that xxxx is going to be deprecated and you should use yyyy instead
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 22:24    Post subject:
Dual boot FTW!

If I had a 2nd 120GB SSD or a 250GB I'd do it, for now I'll stick with win 7


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 22:28    Post subject:
Smikis. wrote:
oh sorry, because we didnt had same issue with windows xp, vista, 2000, 98 and so on, every new version broke some of old games, thats why they added compatibility mode

ps you should blame devs for using deprecated features/functions, as you usually know years in advance that xxxx is going to be deprecated and you should use yyyy instead


The point is the very same games work fine in Win 7 using the same directx features (heck, win7 with DX11) but not in Win 8.

Usually when a new OS broke the game there was a work-around to it because most of the times the issues were with opengl, 3dfx or other interfaces. There's no proper workaround for this because the games queries directly to DirectX so the only way to fix it is to hack DirectX itself.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 22:34    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 22:41    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Dual boot FTW!

If I had a 2nd 120GB SSD or a 250GB I'd do it, for now I'll stick with win 7


In my case it was easy to move on Razz coz my system was kinda ancient.I don't even remember when I installed win7. I found out I had like 6+ Gb of logs Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 23:00    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:

(Mostly I've been going for Influence rewards but then I noticed I could just buy it at Skyhold with more than enough available to max it out at rank 20, however that takes a lot of gold.)


As long as you don't leave the buy/sell screen, you can sell the book back to the vendor and get your gold back. When you leave the buy/sell screen, you'll get your power points and influence despite not having the book.

For those wondering, the vendor is unlocked by a War Table operation, I think it's called "Power for a Price." I forget when the operation is unlocked or if you need a specific adviser to unlock the vendor (I followed the walkthrough and it said to use Cullen).
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 23:08    Post subject:
h0rnyfavn wrote:
I've installed win 8.1 today and, holy crap, the game indeed runs better Shocked

1920x1200, everything maxed out, msaa disabled.

I used to get 70+ fps in the corridor leading to the war table in Skyhold. Now I get ~85-90 fps

I had like 29-35fps at Redclliffe , now I get ~40-55 fps.

Well, fuck me.. Very Happy

I just updated to 8.1 and my fps went from 45-55 to 55-65 so definitely a performance increase.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 23:26    Post subject:
Frostlol <3's win h8

Bah, I'll probably be running win X whenever I end up trying this medieval sanfran simulator


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Dec 2014 23:30    Post subject:
This all sounds like voodoo magic to me?
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Dec 2014 01:33    Post subject:
dsergei wrote:
Ok this is just dumb. You can use the fade-touched stuff in your armour to generate guard as a mage. Now even if you get dispelled nothing can touch you. KE is even more broken that Arcane Warrior was in DAO.

damn, thanks for this tip. My rogue is a fking tank right now Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Dec 2014 01:36    Post subject:
kevinyang225 wrote:
We have made a new test crack which is working on 50 differernt cpus and we test it with 100 members in our 3DM forum.
The result is not very optimistic,only 2/3 of the 100 computers can run the game with our new test crack.
All the AMD Cpus is not working. So we still have much work to do before we release a crack for public.
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Dec 2014 01:40    Post subject:
Then why not release a alpha/beta crack for people who CAN run it? I'm on an AMD, so i'll have to wait.
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Dec 2014 01:43    Post subject:
All the AMD Cpus is not working Aww Yeah
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Dec 2014 03:48    Post subject:
Supermax2004 wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:


High preset. Medium Tessellation. Medium Shadows. Ultra PP. HBAO Full. No MSAA.

50-60% CPU across all cores (i5-2500k @ 4Ghz) and 89% GPU. 50fps.


In this scene I have 49fps in 1080p and everything ultra plus 2msaa (or 4MFAA Smile )

970GTX@1515mhz (that is beyond 980 gtx though)
GPU @ 98-99%

And 5820k@4,1ghz 6core cpu at 25% load in general. In my opinion everything is fine. Ultra and 4MFAA with great graphics and 50fps good enough for me.

And then when I'm running around I get 53-60 in general. So these 50 here are the lowest ^^




Under Windows 7 I was 50 there, under Win 8.1 I'm getting 54fps with the same settings. Yay. Still, performance in Redcliffe improved a lot - going from a stuttering juddering mid40s to more like 55-60 with same, or even higher, settings. Also running through Hinterlands (specifically Outskirts Camp) had framerate at 46fps before and now, on mostly Ultra with High Tess/High Shadows and HBAO instead of HBAO Full, it's 55-58.

So some improvement in some areas, none in others (Crossroads camp is still terrible, but Mire and Crestwood feel much smoother). Worth a whole day's worth of hassle and shit? Probably not, but at least it's done now Neutral Oh and Skyhold is a lot better, especially facing the grand hall which used to cripple performance, but I've noticed that there's a lot more stuttering/hitching overall throughout. So higher framerates in areas, more hitching. Egh.

~edit~

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631230-dragon-age-inquisition/70609111

It seems to work too! Disabling "Origin In-Game" has almost completely alleviated the stuttering and hitching during movement. That, combined with Windows 8, has made problem areas like Skyhold and Redcliffe an almost entirely different game. To be honest, I am glad I did this after all and I'm glad many of you pushed because the jump is definitely substantial in a lot of places - enough so that settings can actually be bumped up without trouble.
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