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MAD_MAX333
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its like comparing a lambo diablo VT60 to a M3.... both good cars but one is a super car and one is a sports car...
come on, you can't compare a car that costs 100000+ to a 50 grand car that can outperform the super car easily after a few mods...
GT40 and GTR are NOT in the same league, ALTHOUGH GTR can kick it's ass, maybe not in top speed, but in most other areas.
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2005 09:54 Post subject: |
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| W@$P wrote: | You're comparing a modified car to a car that comes out of the factory?
Do you also compare an F1 to a skateboard? |
I think it's only fair to compare the car buck for buck. Sure, a GT40 is a great car with an amazing performance, but how much do you have to pay for it? About $120 000, right?
A Nissan GT-R is substantially below $100 000, something like $80 000 to $90 000 unless I'm completely mistaken. So the question is: is it really fair to compare cars like that? You can scream that the Ford GT is the best car in the world, but the Koenigsegg will beat it hands down in just about anything but the price. 388 km/h on track is a bit more than the Ford can handle, let me tell you.
I think it would be more fair if you compared a stock Ford with a Nissan that had $30 000 of modifications, to put them both in the same price range. The same goes for comparing a Ford GT to, say, a Lamborghini Gallardo, which you should only do after you'd spent $80 000 on modifications to your Ford.
But you forget the most important thing - the Nissan Skyline GT-R looks so much cooler than a Ford GT.  
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2005 09:54 Post subject: |
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| MAD_MAX333 wrote: |
come on, you can't compare a car that costs 100000+ to a 50 grand car that can outperform the super car easily after a few mods...
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And at the same time you cant compare a modified car to something that comes out standard.
BOTH have to be modified in the same regard to be worthy of camparing them.
A GTR with "afew mods" IS a modified car. End of it.
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2005 10:01 Post subject: |
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| W@$P wrote: | | MAD_MAX333 wrote: |
come on, you can't compare a car that costs 100000+ to a 50 grand car that can outperform the super car easily after a few mods...
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And at the same time you cant compare a modified car to something that comes out standard.
BOTH have to be modified in the same regard to be worthy of camparing them.
A GTR with "afew mods" IS a modified car. End of it. |
If a stock car costs $120 000 it should hold it's ground to any car that's been modified to that level, or it isn't worth the price. Then you're not paying for performance, but for the name.
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2005 10:16 Post subject: |
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| SkepticalEnquirer wrote: | | W@$P wrote: | | MAD_MAX333 wrote: |
come on, you can't compare a car that costs 100000+ to a 50 grand car that can outperform the super car easily after a few mods...
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And at the same time you cant compare a modified car to something that comes out standard.
BOTH have to be modified in the same regard to be worthy of camparing them.
A GTR with "afew mods" IS a modified car. End of it. |
If a stock car costs $120 000 it should hold it's ground to any car that's been modified to that level, or it isn't worth the price. Then you're not paying for performance, but for the name. |
Thats with alot of cars tho.
Lets just pick any Ferrari that would go for 300K for example.
If it didn't have the badge or been labeld Ferrari in anyway, it wouldn't go for $300K in the end.
Probably alot cheaper.
Half the price? who knows
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Leftos
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2005 10:23 Post subject: |
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Anyone else noticed we're not talking about NFS:MW anymore? I think it was page... er... 4 that the MW discussion stopped. Would you mind going on-topic again?
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MAD_MAX333
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2005 10:28 Post subject: |
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ferrari? lol lower end ferraris can NOT keep up with a modded supra in 3rd gear on the highway
lol darkleftos is right ,we are offtopic , however the game is not out, the demo is not out, so we might as well kill time
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Baleur
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2005 12:27 Post subject: |
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| W@$P wrote: | | MAD_MAX333 wrote: |
come on, you can't compare a car that costs 100000+ to a 50 grand car that can outperform the super car easily after a few mods...
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And at the same time you cant compare a modified car to something that comes out standard.
BOTH have to be modified in the same regard to be worthy of camparing them.
A GTR with "afew mods" IS a modified car. End of it. |
Smart today?
So if i take a Fiat Punto and a Ferrari Enzo, its fair to compare them since they are both stock?
Or if i modify them both, then its still fair?
lol what have you been smoking? The only time its fair in any way to compare a super-car to a "common" street-car is when the street-car is modified TO REACH THE SUPER-CAR's LEVEL!!
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Moon999
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2005 13:09 Post subject: |
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well some of you say that damage will be some no.............anyway nfs mw will be cheap arcade driving game  for sure i am waiting the real game for exsample like crashday where the damage goes like realistic option not like shitie nfs mw
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2005 13:38 Post subject: |
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Any links to this crashday?
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Azazell
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2005 15:43 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2005 15:53 Post subject: |
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i wonder if this time when you hit other cars or anything your car got dammege or..nothing as usual in the rest NFS games.
anyone have clue?
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Azazell
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| pikachupi wrote: | i wonder if this time when you hit other cars or anything your car got dammege or..nothing as usual in the rest NFS games.
anyone have clue? |
little damage, fu*** license
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2005 16:28 Post subject: |
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| Azazell wrote: | | pikachupi wrote: | i wonder if this time when you hit other cars or anything your car got dammege or..nothing as usual in the rest NFS games.
anyone have clue? |
little damage, fu*** license |
From the trailer i saw it has heavy car and world damaging.
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Azazell
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2005 16:58 Post subject: |
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when is crashday demo and nfs:mw demo out ?
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2005 17:39 Post subject: |
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japanese > american crap , now for the facts you noobs have no idea about .
Win a japanese car on the track with an american muscle then brag .
Ever heard the terms suspention , brakes , electronics , engine managment system , coilovers ... no ? these effect the cars handeling , control , because without control you can have a 1000 HP dodge charger 69' that flys but any slight steer of the wheel you lose control , any turn above 60 MPH and the car flips ... american cars are all curb POWER , and power is nothing without control .
Yes they also make the best cheap crap cars , but for the ones that can afford it , japanese super cars are the best on the planet if you wanna race em on the track .
you watch WRC ? thats rally , 80% of the cars are japanese , not SINGLE , not SINGLE car is on the WRC , why ? they dont ever meet the fucking minimum requirments .
subaru , mitsubishi etc etc ... are rally champions , sure there are french and german cars but japanese know better , japan is serious when it comes about cars , and they are the worlds drifters and racers .
american car sports ? some big ass car with a MASSIVE engine is " RACING " through a stright line ... wow ... amazing to look at -_- ...or some other GIANT ASS engine that pushes some big ass thing on the dirt ... etc etc ... getting the picture ?
So again i say , win against any japanese super car the guys mentioned above ON THE TRACK then come here and brag .
In fact try to beat a mitsubishi evo 8 MR FQ400 with ANY american muscle ever made , you would lose badly , that car can take turns at 180 MPH and stick to the road like a blood sucking leech - thats smart enginering , thats somthing to be proud off . not how big your damm engine is ... fact is it has only 2000 CC engine and it pulls over 400 horse power - that is a technological breakthrough .
wanna talk facts ? wanna talk statistics ? fine :
your basic "godlike" GT40 has 380 horsepower , with a massive ( of course ) 4.7 liter engine , a stock evo 8 has 275 horsepower on a 2.0 liter engine , thats a 2 times smaller engine then the GT40's ... in fact you can buy a small turbo replacment on the STOCK engine ( withtout changing a damm thing ) to make it 390 HP ...
Besides a GT40 is a RACE CAR while a evo is a 4 door SEDAN , the gt40 wights less then a ton , 910 kg in fact , its simple a engine on wheels ... remove rear sets , 2 doors etc etc to make an evo that wights the same ... and the evo would smoke the GT's ass so bad you would think about nuclear weapons v.s sticks and rocks .
Know what a diffrential is ? its a system that stops the wheels from spinning out so rapidly and fast that the car wont actually move forward but stay on the spot for a few seconds because the friction between the tire and the road is very low , lets talk about american diffrential ... oh thats right , they dont have any . they are still using the 50's formula of heavy wight + big ass tires with no cut ( slicks ) ... lol , thats why most of em rise up the air like they are gonna fly ...
Ever heard about ABS ? anti-lock braking system ... beacuse break too hard and the wheels would lock , people have found out - surprise! - that when the wheels are locked you have ZERO control over your car so u can slide and hit a wall , especially in the rain etc etc etc etc ... american cars ABS ? you said it ! they dont have any ! lol .
same goes for a dozen other systems that work on the backround from keeping you safe and IN CONTROL , systems you never heard off .
and i wont even go into the tuning culture becayse american crap cant even be tuned because they dont have a engine managment computer , nor they are fuel injected , they are still running on carborators that CANT be tuned thus u cant change the air\fuel mixture , american answer is : change the entire damm engine into a BIGGER ONE ! yay .
get a clue noobs .
edit : so if your silly ferrari gets torn into pieces by a tuned supra you gonna say " hey ! thats modified " while people laugh at you pathitically ? get a clue , car mods is the next generation for automobiles , todays cars COME OUT from the factory and are BUILT and influanced by the tuning culture ... get a clue .
Easy to compare a 300,000 $ ferrari to a 40,000 skyline ah ? damm noob you are sir .
( 30-50 grand is the avg cost of japanese supercars if you are interested )
Did you know they sold on Ebay the car from 2fast2furios - the silver skyline at the first racing scene , the car was owned by a guy that tuned its ass to 1000 + HP with a 300 shot NOS system and TONS of other mods , it was painted again and inserted in the film , of course like 8 replicas were made ( only exterior ) but one of em ( and the one used in shows ) was that heavely tuned one , it was sold on Ebay for 80 grand , get a clue punk , tuning is not a crime .
god dammit , a SKYLINE is so badass its not even ROAD LEGAL in the US and in many other countries even on STOCK ( besides japan because it was made in there ) god dammit its like a weapon .
edit 2 : the only god damm " super " in a GT40 is because is its wieght ( less then a ton ) , it outperformed many cars , oh yes , in around 1965 - 1980 lol , todays standart its nothing close to a supercar , it has a pathitic 380 horse power engine and it looks like CRAP , of course in those days 380 was OUTSTANDING OMG LOL WTF bla bla bla .
it was only called supercar because in the 60's it won alot of races , and in the 60's its shit like design looks " hot " , but so did this : http://www.islandentertainmentsonline.com/acatalog/magic60scostume2.jpg
surly not in exterior you say ? show me one good looking american crap .
Japanese supercars transmit pure sex on wheels , they are slick , dangerous , dont-F***-with-me design is cool , american cars transmit " im FAT , i eat alot of gasoline , and i wanna-be dangerous because my engine can burst into flames on 6000 + RPM "
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| Diforce wrote: | | In fact try to beat a mitsubishi evo 8 MR FQ400 with ANY american muscle ever made , you would lose badly , that car can take turns at 180 MPH and stick to the road like a blood sucking leech - thats smart enginering , thats somthing to be proud off . not how big your damm engine is ... fact is it has only 2000 CC engine and it pulls over 400 horse power - that is a technological breakthrough . |
Exactly. The only thing taht comes close to the Mitsubishi Evo's amazing handling would probably be the Lotus Elite, because that car is IMPOSSIBLE to flip.
But I still like the Subaru Impreza WRX the most.
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2005 17:51 Post subject: |
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| Diforce wrote: | japanese > american crap , now for the facts you noobs have no idea about .
Win a japanese car on the track with an american muscle then brag .
Ever heard the terms suspention , brakes , electronics , engine managment system , coilovers ... no ? these effect the cars handeling , control , because without control you can have a 1000 HP dodge charger 69' that flys but any slight steer of the wheel you lose control , any turn above 60 MPH and the car flips ... american cars are all curb POWER , and power is nothing without control .
Yes they also make the best cheap crap cars , but for the ones that can afford it , japanese super cars are the best on the planet if you wanna race em on the track .
you watch WRC ? thats rally , 80% of the cars are japanese , not SINGLE , not SINGLE car is on the WRC , why ? they dont ever meet the fucking minimum requirments .
subaru , mitsubishi etc etc ... are rally champions , sure there are french and german cars but japanese know better , japan is serious when it comes about cars , and they are the worlds drifters and racers .
american car sports ? some big ass car with a MASSIVE engine is " RACING " through a stright line ... wow ... amazing to look at -_- ...or some other GIANT ASS engine that pushes some big ass thing on the dirt ... etc etc ... getting the picture ?
So again i say , win against any japanese super car the guys mentioned above ON THE TRACK then come here and brag .
In fact try to beat a mitsubishi evo 8 MR FQ400 with ANY american muscle ever made , you would lose badly , that car can take turns at 180 MPH and stick to the road like a blood sucking leech - thats smart enginering , thats somthing to be proud off . not how big your damm engine is ... fact is it has only 2000 CC engine and it pulls over 400 horse power - that is a technological breakthrough .
wanna talk facts ? wanna talk statistics ? fine :
your basic "godlike" GT40 has 380 horsepower , with a massive ( of course ) 4.7 liter engine , a stock evo 8 has 275 horsepower on a 2.0 liter engine , thats a 2 times smaller engine then the GT40's ... in fact you can buy a small turbo replacment on the STOCK engine ( withtout changing a damm thing ) to make it 390 HP ...
Besides a GT40 is a RACE CAR while a evo is a 4 door SEDAN , the gt40 wights less then a ton , 910 kg in fact , its simple a engine on wheels ... remove rear sets , 2 doors etc etc to make an evo that wights the same ... and the evo would smoke the GT's ass so bad you would think about nuclear weapons v.s sticks and rocks .
Know what a diffrential is ? its a system that stops the wheels from spinning out so rapidly and fast that the car wont actually move forward but stay on the spot for a few seconds because the friction between the tire and the road is very low , lets talk about american diffrential ... oh thats right , they dont have any . they are still using the 50's formula of heavy wight + big ass tires with no cut ( slicks ) ... lol , thats why most of em rise up the air like they are gonna fly ...
Ever heard about ABS ? anti-lock braking system ... beacuse break too hard and the wheels would lock , people have found out - surprise! - that when the wheels are locked you have ZERO control over your car so u can slide and hit a wall , especially in the rain etc etc etc etc ... american cars ABS ? you said it ! they dont have any ! lol .
same goes for a dozen other systems that work on the backround from keeping you safe and IN CONTROL , systems you never heard off .
and i wont even go into the tuning culture becayse american crap cant even be tuned because they dont have a engine managment computer , nor they are fuel injected , they are still running on carborators that CANT be tuned thus u cant change the air\fuel mixture , american answer is : change the entire damm engine into a BIGGER ONE ! yay .
get a clue noobs .
edit : so if your silly ferrari gets torn into pieces by a tuned supra you gonna say " hey ! thats modified " while people laugh at you pathitically ? get a clue , car mods is the next generation for automobiles , todays cars COME OUT from the factory and are BUILT and influanced by the tuning culture ... get a clue .
Easy to compare a 300,000 $ ferrari to a 40,000 skyline ah ? damm noob you are sir .
Did you know they sold on Ebay the car from 2fast2furios - the silver skyline at the first racing scene , the car was owned by a guy that tuned its ass to 1000 + HP with a 300 shot NOS system and TONS of other mods , it was painted again and inserted in the film , of course like 8 replicas were made ( only exterior ) but one of em ( and the one used in shows ) was that heavely tuned one , it was sold on Ebay for 80 grand , get a clue punk , tuning is not a crime . |
that took u hell of a lot of time to right it
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2005 18:24 Post subject: |
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both NFSU,U2 demos were uploaded on Tuesday. So LETS PRAY that it comes out that day...
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2005 18:38 Post subject: |
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probably screen from console versions but who knows maybe they do  |
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Parallax_
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Nov 2005 18:59 Post subject: |
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| Parallax_ wrote: | | Diforce wrote: | | surly not in exterior you say ? show me one good looking american crap .Japanese supercars transmit pure sex on wheels , they are slick , dangerous , dont-F***-with-me design is cool , american cars transmit " im FAT , i eat alot of gasoline , and i wanna-be dangerous because my engine can burst into flames on 6000 + RPM " |
First of all, learn to write proper english. Secondly, don't you think you are going a bit too far with your rant? |
First of all my english is pretty good , exuse me if i made a couple of mistakes in a 500 word reply .
Second - no i dont , as far goes exterior american cars hasnt changed since the 50's .
Today jap imports look hot , take example from mazda 6 and the like .
im not even talking about supra , RX-8 and the new 2006 skyline .
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Azazell
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