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WaldoJ you are one spineless motherfucker
expect to get stomped on a lot by bitches and don't be surprised when they walk away from you
All due respect.
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| Nalo wrote: | | Laurentiu499 wrote: | im sorry to say this, and im not taking her side or anything. but claude man, i dont think you were fuckin her good. something was lacking there if she had to seek another cock.
she wanted the best of both worlds: a cozy house with moneys by claude and a good fuck by thaqt midget. it backfired.
and 1.60 m? fuck. women are stupid. they can be talked into anything. |
Somehow you managed to place the blame on Claude. Or at least it sounds that way - "you weren't fucking her good". Twisted logic  |
The fuck did you expect?
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| FireMaster wrote: | WaldoJ you are one spineless motherfucker
expect to get stomped on a lot by bitches and don't be surprised when they walk away from you
All due respect. |
Lol. Actually I'm not  walking away is easy. It's just the reasoning to do it is a little bit emotionally entangled lol.
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I'm sorry but forgiving and trying to "fix" infidelity not only is desperate as fuck but is also stupid.
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lol. peeps that aren't in the know give the best advice 
no. no infidelity with waldorf. just some emotional stuff that puts a whole relationship in question because waldorf has emotional issues.
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I get its hard to let go of people you love.... but to stay with someone you know went behind your back, lied, had her fun in all that, with someone else you dont know and come back, talk, forgive and then sit down beside her and live. All the things that will exist in that situation cant be less heavy emotionally than leaving her. I get your point but ive lived through that and forgiving that is no fucking easy task, its all cons, trust issues, betrayal, doubt, insecurity, no peace, broken perception, damaged respect and image. Holy, bless your patience and understanding.
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| WaldoJ wrote: | lol. peeps that aren't in the know give the best advice
no. no infidelity with waldorf. just some emotional stuff that puts a whole relationship in question because waldorf has emotional issues. |
Starting with Waldo talking about himself in third person 
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| Sin317 wrote: | | I win, you lose. Or Go fuck yourself. |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | WaldoJ wrote: | i'm more from the school of thought where you can talk it out and that i'm pretty much fucked from previous lives  |
Well I'm not. If someone cheats, they're gone. For whatever reason, they're gone. If they're so fucking cowardly to go behind your back, they're not worth fighting for and I absolutely *refuse* to fight for someone that cheats. Ever. It's my #1 rule and I've never broken it and I expect others to feel the same, otherwise it's the boot and good riddance. No talking, no communication, no stressing, no tears, no pleading, no trial separation. Gone. Out the fucking door, don't ever come back. |
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let me tell you my story, and the reason i would talk with her, because people seems like they dont had to much issues in their life (or not long enough relation to apreciate someone which is there for you), and all blame the girl.
25+ years ago.
i was involed with a girl.
girl i knew and where unseparable from when we was like 14 year old.
as soon as we finished school (18 years old) we moved together, my parents suported us with money for rent and so. (she had issues with her parents, but they gave her some money to).
because i disliked university, i barely finish 1' year (because i liked a teacher which was a former teacher of my father, and i basically keep going only because of him and love for my parents.). but in the 2' year, i just broke. had to quit after 1' semester, i got only 2 passed grades for it, and i had no intention to correct the others. i canot learn what i consider useless stuff. i go for an it university, i have no reason to learn eu history, philosofy or other crap. for the next 3 month, i sinked deep. i was drunk 6 days / week. she carried me crying to bed every night, because i just slept on the bathroom floor. i drunk full cups of votca without getting drunk. drinkin 1 l of cheap ass shit votca in a day was coomon occurance. later i moved to absinth. i dint had any friends to talk with, the ones i had have moved after school, and my girl knew that i dont want to talk with my parents cause i love them to much to break their heart with my university failure. she tried to talk with me but no succes, even when i was sober.
the wakeup call was when i vomited in my computer case, brooking it.
the second day when i wake up i was looking at it and was like me did that ?
i went to my parents house and told them everything. they were disappointed, but they understand me. they told me that for now they will continue to give me money for rent and basics, but they will want those money back. not the next year or in 10 years, but they feel that i will neede to make it on my own.
even now, after all this years, i got shivers when i'm thinking on that period. my girl even with the pain she was going trough, was over it, but still i got the look every time i drink a beer after, like she wonder if i can stop just after one.
now i canot drink hard liquer, even the smell makes me want to puke, i drink mostly beer, 2 tops, and only outside. i usually have beer/alcohol in house for friends, but i never touch it in the house.
so i start looking for a job. rather faster, because people with it skills were not so common i found a job.
an us busniss man wants to start a programming firm and he needs someone to start it tech wise.
i designed the network, purchased all i need, setup servers and so. in 2 months after i begun working, he started to hire people and all was ok. at this time busniss still going strong, on the bases i started with. (not working there anymore, but i talk often with him).
2 years later, i was an workholoic. because he is an american and i was the man which usually talk him him, my shedule was from 8(20) -> 4-5 in the morning. often i would not go home, i just slept at work, order some food there and go and go. money were good, and i was thinking that if i can take my girl to expensive vacations and restaurants, is ok to see eachother 1 time / week (and we were living togheter). when she was home from university, i was at work. and a lot of time i just stayed at work. she need me, not expensive crap.
again the wake up call was in a morning, when i was dead tired, and took a cab home to sleep. i sleep in the cab, when i got home i found her with some guy. funny thing that i intended to do something about, and i fall down because of tiredness. woke up later on hospital with perfusion and sedated, she was there.
we had a long talk and sort it out.
i talked with my boss, i gave up like half of my salary to hire another guy, i worked on normal hours. i never agree to stay out of program regularly, only if/when are issues. i had no problem talking/working from home, but only if is really need it.
after the university, she got a job in germany, i go with her, they hired me to, but i really hated there. i was missing my parents (she had issues with her own), i was missing our weekends on the country parents house, i canot simply just live in a town. she was happy there, so we decided to split up, and i returned. we are still talking from time to time, but she never returned in country.
looking back in time i can say that if i would not forgive her at that time, i would have missed a great period of my life. and she said the same about the period after my own fucktups.
the end.
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| frogster wrote: | let me tell you my story, and the reason i would talk with her, because people seems like they dont had to much issues in their life (or not long enough relation to apreciate someone which is there for you), and all blame the girl.
25+ years ago.
i was involed with a girl.
girl i knew and where unseparable from when we was like 14 year old.
as soon as we finished school (18 years old) we moved together, my parents suported us with money for rent and so. (she had issues with her parents, but they gave her some money to).
because i disliked university, i barely finish 1' year (because i liked a teacher which was a former teacher of my father, and i basically keep going only because of him and love for my parents.). but in the 2' year, i just broke. had to quit after 1' semester, i got only 2 passed grades for it, and i had no intention to correct the others. i canot learn what i consider useless stuff. i go for an it university, i have no reason to learn eu history, philosofy or other crap. for the next 3 month, i sinked deep. i was drunk 6 days / week. she carried me crying to bed every night, because i just slept on the bathroom floor. i drunk full cups of votca without getting drunk. drinkin 1 l of cheap ass shit votca in a day was coomon occurance. later i moved to absinth. i dint had any friends to talk with, the ones i had have moved after school, and my girl knew that i dont want to talk with my parents cause i love them to much to break their heart with my university failure. she tried to talk with me but no succes, even when i was sober.
the wakeup call was when i vomited in my computer case, brooking it.
the second day when i wake up i was looking at it and was like me did that ?
i went to my parents house and told them everything. they were disappointed, but they understand me. they told me that for now they will continue to give me money for rent and basics, but they will want those money back. not the next year or in 10 years, but they feel that i will neede to make it on my own.
even now, after all this years, i got shivers when i'm thinking on that period. my girl even with the pain she was going trough, was over it, but still i got the look every time i drink a beer after, like she wonder if i can stop just after one.
now i canot drink hard liquer, even the smell makes me want to puke, i drink mostly beer, 2 tops, and only outside. i usually have beer/alcohol in house for friends, but i never touch it in the house.
so i start looking for a job. rather faster, because people with it skills were not so common i found a job.
an us busniss man wants to start a programming firm and he needs someone to start it tech wise.
i designed the network, purchased all i need, setup servers and so. in 2 months after i begun working, he started to hire people and all was ok. at this time busniss still going strong, on the bases i started with. (not working there anymore, but i talk often with him).
2 years later, i was an workholoic. because he is an american and i was the man which usually talk him him, my shedule was from 8(20) -> 4-5 in the morning. often i would not go home, i just slept at work, order some food there and go and go. money were good, and i was thinking that if i can take my girl to expensive vacations and restaurants, is ok to see eachother 1 time / week (and we were living togheter). when she was home from university, i was at work. and a lot of time i just stayed at work. she need me, not expensive crap.
again the wake up call was in a morning, when i was dead tired, and took a cab home to sleep. i sleep in the cab, when i got home i found her with some guy. funny thing that i intended to do something about, and i fall down because of tiredness. woke up later on hospital with perfusion and sedated, she was there.
we had a long talk and sort it out.
i talked with my boss, i gave up like half of my salary to hire another guy, i worked on normal hours. i never agree to stay out of program regularly, only if/when are issues. i had no problem talking/working from home, but only if is really need it.
after the university, she got a job in germany, i go with her, they hired me to, but i really hated there. i was missing my parents (she had issues with her own), i was missing our weekends on the country parents house, i canot simply just live in a town. she was happy there, so we decided to split up, and i returned. we are still talking from time to time, but she never returned in country.
looking back in time i can say that if i would not forgive her at that time, i would have missed a great period of my life. and she said the same about the period after my own fucktups.
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Very mature of you. You took your share of the blame, which isn't easy to do.
I was going to advise Claude to talk to her why she did it, no need to get back to together, just to get some closure and maybe learn something from this about himself.
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Some people have higher tolerance than others, there isn't a recipe for relationships.
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| xxax wrote: | | frogster wrote: | let me tell you my story, and the reason i would talk with her, because people seems like they dont had to much issues in their life (or not long enough relation to apreciate someone which is there for you), and all blame the girl.
25+ years ago.
i was involed with a girl.
girl i knew and where unseparable from when we was like 14 year old.
as soon as we finished school (18 years old) we moved together, my parents suported us with money for rent and so. (she had issues with her parents, but they gave her some money to).
because i disliked university, i barely finish 1' year (because i liked a teacher which was a former teacher of my father, and i basically keep going only because of him and love for my parents.). but in the 2' year, i just broke. had to quit after 1' semester, i got only 2 passed grades for it, and i had no intention to correct the others. i canot learn what i consider useless stuff. i go for an it university, i have no reason to learn eu history, philosofy or other crap. for the next 3 month, i sinked deep. i was drunk 6 days / week. she carried me crying to bed every night, because i just slept on the bathroom floor. i drunk full cups of votca without getting drunk. drinkin 1 l of cheap ass shit votca in a day was coomon occurance. later i moved to absinth. i dint had any friends to talk with, the ones i had have moved after school, and my girl knew that i dont want to talk with my parents cause i love them to much to break their heart with my university failure. she tried to talk with me but no succes, even when i was sober.
the wakeup call was when i vomited in my computer case, brooking it.
the second day when i wake up i was looking at it and was like me did that ?
i went to my parents house and told them everything. they were disappointed, but they understand me. they told me that for now they will continue to give me money for rent and basics, but they will want those money back. not the next year or in 10 years, but they feel that i will neede to make it on my own.
even now, after all this years, i got shivers when i'm thinking on that period. my girl even with the pain she was going trough, was over it, but still i got the look every time i drink a beer after, like she wonder if i can stop just after one.
now i canot drink hard liquer, even the smell makes me want to puke, i drink mostly beer, 2 tops, and only outside. i usually have beer/alcohol in house for friends, but i never touch it in the house.
so i start looking for a job. rather faster, because people with it skills were not so common i found a job.
an us busniss man wants to start a programming firm and he needs someone to start it tech wise.
i designed the network, purchased all i need, setup servers and so. in 2 months after i begun working, he started to hire people and all was ok. at this time busniss still going strong, on the bases i started with. (not working there anymore, but i talk often with him).
2 years later, i was an workholoic. because he is an american and i was the man which usually talk him him, my shedule was from 8(20) -> 4-5 in the morning. often i would not go home, i just slept at work, order some food there and go and go. money were good, and i was thinking that if i can take my girl to expensive vacations and restaurants, is ok to see eachother 1 time / week (and we were living togheter). when she was home from university, i was at work. and a lot of time i just stayed at work. she need me, not expensive crap.
again the wake up call was in a morning, when i was dead tired, and took a cab home to sleep. i sleep in the cab, when i got home i found her with some guy. funny thing that i intended to do something about, and i fall down because of tiredness. woke up later on hospital with perfusion and sedated, she was there.
we had a long talk and sort it out.
i talked with my boss, i gave up like half of my salary to hire another guy, i worked on normal hours. i never agree to stay out of program regularly, only if/when are issues. i had no problem talking/working from home, but only if is really need it.
after the university, she got a job in germany, i go with her, they hired me to, but i really hated there. i was missing my parents (she had issues with her own), i was missing our weekends on the country parents house, i canot simply just live in a town. she was happy there, so we decided to split up, and i returned. we are still talking from time to time, but she never returned in country.
looking back in time i can say that if i would not forgive her at that time, i would have missed a great period of my life. and she said the same about the period after my own fucktups.
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Very mature of you. You took your share of the blame, which isn't easy to do.
I was going to advise Claude to talk to her why she did it, no need to get back to together, just to get some closure and maybe learn something from this about himself. |
I know why she did it, I made the mistake of focusing on my work more than I did on her, which was a mistake. Don't get me wrong, that doesn't mean I ignored her, it's just that I was more affected by work stuff as opposed to who left who and who went out with whom. Anyway, since I know that, I'd rather not talk to her anymore. Seriously. She wasn't even apologetic about it at first, which means it was either going on for a while or this wasn't her first rodeo. Truth be told she knows me too well and knows I can't be reasoned with in the heat of the moment, I am very, VERY impulsive in these situations, I amazed myself I didn't pummel that guy. Anyway, I learned I never should put material stuff before my close ones. And certainly pay more attention to the ones that matter. Still numb, though.
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| Quote: | | Anyway, I learned I never should put material stuff before my close ones. And certainly pay more attention to the ones that matter. |
indeed.
in my case, i'm really happy that i learned that lesson when i was young.
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What I took from your "story" is that if someone cheats on you, it's probably your fault and you're "mature" for listening and trying to fix what you obviously broke because it's definitely your fault, not theirs. Regardless, if Claude was at fault then she should have just left him. It doesn't show "maturity" keeping a cheating partner, which is why I say "cheat once = over" regardless of reason. If we're all such terrible partners and it's all our fault for being cheated on, then the other person should leave rather than being a spineless unfaithful piece of shit.
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i dint said it was 100% my fault. obviously she had her part aswell.
yeah, is true what Dany said.
she could have just told me that he wanted to try something else, and split for a period of time, or for ever.
what i know (now) is that if she told me that she wants to break up with me before cheating, i would probably just break up and continue my hunt for money no matter what, and get in another dark place. like a nerd it guy, 120kg, eating cola and chiochips.
as far how life went after, from my part it went well. i got hurt, she got hurt aswell, i learned that money are not the most important things in life, and i was enjoyed another 2+ years with someone who loved me and i loved aswell.
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| frogster wrote: | | what i know (now) is that if she told me that she wants to break up with me before cheating, i would probably just break up and continue my hunt for money no matter what, and get in another dark place. like a nerd it guy, 120kg, eating cola and chiochips. |
I don't understand this, at all. Why?
Why didn't you go to a dark place after catching her in the act then?
Also you situation and claude's do not seem alike, at all.
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because i wanted money.
not money to go hiking, sking, swiming, to get drinks/food whateve. just money. and i was willing to spend 24h at work to get them. at peak time i pretty much drank like 4 l of cola daily. seeing her with someone else was a cold shower, and by simply just broken up with her without the cold shower, i would probably just go forward. i pretty much ignored everything around me for a lot of time, so if she told me that she will move tomorow, i would have just simply nod and let her go.
well, he mentions long time relation and late work issues. i dont think is around 22 years, is more mature and he would not fall in the extremes like me at that time, but seeing that everyone pretty much blame the girl, i decided to share a bit from my lifespam  .
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Hmm....
Comunications, ive always been a complicated partner and even as far as being 16, 17, 19, 22, 24, ive always been talked to by my young partners and told the problems, the things happening, been warned to be left. And i was dumped etc, other times i changed etc.
Thats the correct attitude, you arent happy in the relationship? Talk and if necesary, leave, quit, stop seeing each other or fix it if they want to. Thats respect and self-respect. And to this day i respect those who did those things. I dont respect any of the ones who cheated before even talking or leaving.
In your case you may feel you gave her all the reasons etc, fine, you are right. But i know a lot of persons who would have left you and wouldnt have needed to cheat on you. That would have been a lot healthier if you guys ever came back together.
This is a very personal thing, ill stop talking crap since everyone knows what to do and think, everyone has different ways of coping with things.
I sure as fuck would never continue a relationship with a liar or a cheat.
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| Lopin18 wrote: | Hmm....
Comunications, ive always been a complicated partner and even as far as being 16, 17, 19, 22, 24, ive always been talked to by my young partners and told the problems, the things happening, been warned to be left.
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Sabin pitches in with his vast experience on life
| ClaudeFTW wrote: |
I know why she did it, I made the mistake of focusing on my work more than I did on her, which was a mistake. Don't get me wrong, that doesn't mean I ignored her, it's just that I was more affected by work stuff as opposed to who left who and who went out with whom. Anyway, since I know that, I'd rather not talk to her anymore. Seriously. She wasn't even apologetic about it at first, which means it was either going on for a while or this wasn't her first rodeo. Truth be told she knows me too well and knows I can't be reasoned with in the heat of the moment, I am very, VERY impulsive in these situations, I amazed myself I didn't pummel that guy. Anyway, I learned I never should put material stuff before my close ones. And certainly pay more attention to the ones that matter. Still numb, though. |
Valuable lesson. Numbness will wear off, then the sadness will come...
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Giant kudos to you Claude, you handled like a champ. I'm genuinely sorry..facing such betrayal is utterly terrible, all the certainties of life suddenly fall apart and it's objectively hard to recover and I can't deny that sometimes stuff like this can leave a permanent mark.
But few people would manage to keep the cool like you did and rationalize the whole thing, it's admirable. (i.e: I couldn't, back when I was still naive to believe in fairytales - disappointments have made me become much much grumpier ). I wish you all the best, because you really deserve it.
edit: having found a bunch of great people to hang around with is possibly the best solution for this tricky situation. And I can safely assure you that the worst has passed now, things will most definitely get better in the near future, no matter what you choose to do with your heart^^
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| Yuri wrote: | | Lopin18 wrote: | Hmm....
Comunications, ive always been a complicated partner and even as far as being 16, 17, 19, 22, 24, ive always been talked to by my young partners and told the problems, the things happening, been warned to be left.
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| ixigia wrote: | Giant kudos to you Claude, you handled like a champ. I'm genuinely sorry..facing such betrayal is utterly terrible, all the certainties of life suddenly fall apart and it's objectively hard to recover and I can't deny that sometimes stuff like this can leave a permanent mark.
But few people would manage to keep the cool like you did and rationalize the whole thing, it's admirable. (i.e: I couldn't, back when I was still naive to believe in fairytales - disappointments have made me become much much grumpier ). I wish you all the best, because you really deserve it.
edit: having found a bunch of great people to hang around with is possibly the best solution for this tricky situation. And I can safely assure you that the worst has passed now, things will most definitely get better in the near future, no matter what you choose to do with your heart^^ |
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