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Epsilon
Dr. Strangelove
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| fable2 wrote: | | dodger2020 wrote: | | OrignalSpaceJockey wrote: |
Has it been that long??  |
yep, remember they made a big deal about the release date.. Big 11/11/11 on most of their ads. |
It's gonna be 15/15/15 this time around men!  |
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LeoNatan
☢ NFOHump Despot ☢
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Location: Ramat Gan, Israel 🇮🇱
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Feb 2015 21:43 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2015 00:22 Post subject: |
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Oh sorry guise, i used the american date format, here let me fix it!
15/15/15.
Better, right?
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2015 00:34 Post subject: |
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sausje
Banned
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Location: Limboland, Netherlands
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Feb 2015 14:15 Post subject: |
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| prudislav wrote: | most likely
- public release of Doom 4 trailer + possibly beta date
- TESO expansion / becoming F2P
- info on at least one of Fallout 4 / TES 6 / DH2
- maybe some project from the ashes of Prey 2
- by that time possibly info on last Evil Within DLC |
http://www.vg247.com/2015/02/13/forget-fallout-4-this-is-what-bethesdas-e3-show-really-means/
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tonizito
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Location: Portugal, the shithole of Europe.
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Feb 2015 15:25 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | This is Bethesda pulling on its big boy pants. It wants to be seen as being on the same level as Ubisoft and EA, both of which squeeze their showcases in between Microsoft and Sony. Bethesda is saying “our games are as good as FIFA, Assassin’s Creed, Battlefield and Far Cry”. |
I hope not, last time I heard of this big boy pants crap was THQ and while I don't see a useless bethtablet in the horizon anytime soon I hope they don't get that "big boy pants" bullshit 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Feb 2015 17:00 Post subject: |
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I dunno, it would be kind of interesting to see a THQ-style auctioning off of Bethesda's corpse, finding out how much other publishers would be willing to pay for the Fallout, TES, etc. IP.
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NeHoMaR
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Location: In my house.
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Feb 2015 20:30 Post subject: |
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Why make Fallout or Elder Scrolls if Bethesda can make money without working at all? financing other developers. My hope is they develop something for fun, not for money.
I used to be a knee like you. Then I took an adventurer in the arrow.
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Feb 2015 20:33 Post subject: |
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lol
Enthoo Evolv ATX TG // Asus Prime x370 // Ryzen 1700 // Gainward GTX 1080 // 16GB DDR4-3200
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Feb 2015 20:40 Post subject: |
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I want fallout...with isometry camera... without bethesda...or let they look on wastelands2 and do smth like this much thoroughly, scrupulously, intellectually
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Feb 2015 20:46 Post subject: |
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| daimos84 wrote: | | I want fallout...with isometry camera... without bethesda...or let they look on wastelands2 and do smth like this much thoroughly, scrupulously, intellectually |
Move along.
| Frant wrote: | | Shitass games are ruining piracy. |
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Feb 2015 21:55 Post subject: |
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| daimos84 wrote: | | I want fallout...with isometry camera... without bethesda... |
You have, it's called wasteland 2 
I like both styles, so let one specialize in this and the other in that so I get both xD |
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2015 20:17 Post subject: |
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| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2015 20:21 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2015 20:30 Post subject: |
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Fuckin' ridiculous.
Still, this is the legal branch of the company, which has nothing to do with coders and programmers working at the very same firm.
Who are going to deliver an awesome Fallout 4.
| Frant wrote: | | Shitass games are ruining piracy. |
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2015 20:34 Post subject: |
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Maybe this means... towers confirmed in FO4! Aaw yis... can't wait to climb them all and get a cheevo! Mm, wait... not Ubi...
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2015 20:35 Post subject: |
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no, it's the patent/court order's fault
you shouldn't be able to patent single words, alone, that are available in the dictionary
let's make a game called "The" and patent that word, after that make another game "Of" and we're set for life..
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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vurt
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2015 22:26 Post subject: |
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It's retarded... but they do this to protect themselves too, to not get sued themselves from the other developer. Obviously Bethesda would not be too happy if their legal staff didn't do their job and they'd get sued and loose a lot of money.. Not likely they would be, but they take precautions because that's how stupid the legal system is.. it was the same with "Scrolls".
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2015 22:27 Post subject: |
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| daimos84 wrote: | | I want fallout...with isometry camera... without bethesda...or let they look on wastelands2 and do smth like this much thoroughly, scrupulously, intellectually |
No. Wasteland 2 is good but its atmosphere doesn't hold a candle to that of Fallout. You can complain about Fallout 3 and NV all you want, but those games OOZED atmosphere. Especially if you replaced the default background music with that of Fallout 1 & 2.
I'd die for a proper Fallout 4 as long as they enabled modding again. They need to stick with the formula though - big US city and areas around it. Perhaps New York this time? Also add plenty of locations with their own story.
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2015 22:31 Post subject: |
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@red_avatar
Maybe they'll add parkour and radioactive zombies too 
1) Lenovo Legion 7 (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H, RTX 3080 16Gb, 32Gb DDR4, SSD 1TB +2TB
2) SFFPC (streaming via Moonlight+ Sunshine)
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Werelds
Special Little Man
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2015 23:39 Post subject: |
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| red_avatar wrote: | | I'd die for a proper Fallout 4 as long as they enabled modding again. They need to stick with the formula though - big US city and areas around it. Perhaps New York this time? Also add plenty of locations with their own story. |
The wrong atmosphere though. I went into Fallout 3 expecting something like 1+2 but I didn't get it and ended up hating the game. As far as I'm concerned, Fallout 1+2 are one branch of the franchise and 3+NV are an entirely different branch. Same universe, but that's where it ends. NV got closer to 1+2, but still not close enough for me. |
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ixigia
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2015 00:59 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: | | red_avatar wrote: | | I'd die for a proper Fallout 4 as long as they enabled modding again. They need to stick with the formula though - big US city and areas around it. Perhaps New York this time? Also add plenty of locations with their own story. |
The wrong atmosphere though. I went into Fallout 3 expecting something like 1+2 but I didn't get it and ended up hating the game. As far as I'm concerned, Fallout 1+2 are one branch of the franchise and 3+NV are an entirely different branch. Same universe, but that's where it ends. NV got closer to 1+2, but still not close enough for me. |
I can relate to that.  Fallout 1,2 are one thing, what was released after them is another thing entirely for so many reasons. Though for me NV has managed to capture the essence and elements of the classic games (also gameplay/quests wise, despite the u VAT m8 ) in a way that I would consider it the one, proper worthy successor.
Thankfully (or not, depending on the point of view), I managed to enjoy Fallout 3 too (or..well, Spin-off 3  ) quite a lot, despite the severe limitations in the approach and role-playing/quests department. I used the mental trick "disregard the name and take the game for what it is", and embraced the ride, though I'm aware that doing this qualifies as severe case of cheating in such cases. xD |
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noflip
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Feb 2015 14:06 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: | | red_avatar wrote: | | I'd die for a proper Fallout 4 as long as they enabled modding again. They need to stick with the formula though - big US city and areas around it. Perhaps New York this time? Also add plenty of locations with their own story. |
The wrong atmosphere though. I went into Fallout 3 expecting something like 1+2 but I didn't get it and ended up hating the game. As far as I'm concerned, Fallout 1+2 are one branch of the franchise and 3+NV are an entirely different branch. Same universe, but that's where it ends. NV got closer to 1+2, but still not close enough for me. |
It is the same with the GTA series. I still play GTA2 and I enjoy it more than the 3D versions. This does not mean the new games are bad.
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vurt
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Feb 2015 14:54 Post subject: |
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Playing FO2 right now and there's a lot of things that sucks in comparison to FO3 or FO:NV.
One thing i actually do like is the graphics, it's very gritty and it holds up well in the original resolution (with the graphical mod that can scale it to your monitors resolution), something i actually didn't really expect. I like how consistent it looks, like the art was done by one guy.
1) Adventuring as a dot on a map is neither very exciting or immersive. This is a huge difference in the Bethesda games where much of the adventuring is in the wastes and not just in cities (like in previous FO games).
2) Gear, loot.. not very exciting and feels quite limited, especially armor, much better in Bethesda's games.
3) element of surprise - non-existant in the older games since they didn't even include a "fog of war", you always know what's around the corner. pretty boring. sure you have the random encounters where they try to make up for this but imo, the element of surprise needs to be better than this in a RPG..
4) heights, non existant as a gameplay element since it's isometric, can't swim, can't climb, can't fall down (unless scripted).. boring. i like heights, views.. well let's just say i prefer seeing (and, especially, moving around) the world in 3D.
5) Diversity. Obviously it sucks in FO1-2, it's the same sprites over and over. due to isometric style it's also never very personal (can't see people's faces, except for a few key characters).
6) Fighting. this is where it holds up really great, it's often challenging. Bethesda need to get _much_ better at this, all their games sucks when it comes to this.
As for story and dialogues, it's grittier and has something Bethesda is missing for sure (in dialogues). Story is decent too, quests are ranging from great to poor or just stupid.. There's quite a few stupid things actually, just like in FO3. I think NV is the winner when it comes to quests.
The quests can also sometimes feel really broken or down right strange because how it checks your stats and decides if this or that is going to be in the dialogue tree or not, but without really affecting the rest of the quest or what you have discovered etc. E.g i have a rather low perception and I was going to rescue some boy. I found him, found his father, found the guy to release him, but i could never complete it because something in the dialogue options was removed (probably only available with higher perception). Rather sloppy work imo..
I hope Bethesda learned a few things from Obsidian (and why not From Software ) and take it a step further (Skyrim was an improvement over Oblvion in lots of ways). I don't want the stupid skill tree from Skyrim though, absolutely horrible..
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briangw
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