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VonMisk




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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2015 12:50    Post subject:
I wonder when they would want to burn books, destroy movies because there was no LGBTWTF in it or some character would say something not PC?


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Lopin18




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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2015 14:00    Post subject:
I pity americans, now that i see what they have to deal with... Neutral This is some weird way of thinking, seriously this is something i could only imagine in a movie, like that crazy woman from The Mist.
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Steelone




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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2015 15:35    Post subject:
The infection spreads unfortunately, these zealots are creeping into everything in the UK.

I imagine other European countries are similar.
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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2015 16:10    Post subject:
Yeah, saw the UK being infected quite a bit over the year... I can imagine Sweden being lefter than my left nut following soon. They already had enough wacky PC stuff recently so why not step up and get on the batshit crazy wagon.


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Fu-Qua




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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2015 16:17    Post subject:
Morphineus wrote:
Yeah, saw the UK being infected quite a bit over the year... I can imagine Sweden being lefter than my left nut following soon. They already had enough wacky PC stuff recently so why not step up and get on the batshit crazy wagon.


Sweden is a feminist-heaven mate. Sad
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Neon
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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2015 16:42    Post subject:
Poland is still very much right-wing in almost everything, so we're relatively safe (for now Laughing )
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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2015 18:06    Post subject:
Fu-Qua wrote:
Sweden is a feminist-heaven mate. Sad


I don't really have a problem with feminists if we talk about the true meaning of it. Striving for equality (not parity). I always supported that idea. But I do have a problem with what this new generation's definition of feminism is... which is pretty much anti men.

They are a bunch of hypocrites. Thinking they are better, deserve more,... How is that equality? That's how crazy some of them are: they don't see that they are showing the same behaviour that they are fighting against.

So no I don't have a problem with feminism... I have a problem with over-sensitiveness, overly PC bullshit and feminazis. I know we all need to grow up sometime... but most of us did it after they left high school unlike that generation of "everybody is a winner".

/rant


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djaoni




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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2015 18:35    Post subject:
/pol/ users think Sweden is filled with fat 3rd wave feminazis roaming the streets screaming rape and putting men in jail on false accusations.

Or something stupid like that.
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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2015 18:39    Post subject:
Don't think it has come that far yet.
Then again I'm living in the south and we usually say we are 20/30 years behind here. Razz


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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2015 19:26    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
Poland is still very much right-wing in almost everything, so we're relatively safe (for now Laughing )


As is Hungary, but since I live in the hipster district of the capital, it sneaks in from time to time. People still laugh it up.

You are still free to joke about women, men, whoever you want (except the Jews, but that's cool with me). In real life I have met a lot of women, and since I'm back in the dating game, a lot more still, and I have never in my life met someone like these Tumblr feminists. I'm not entirely sure they exist outside of pictures and the web Very Happy
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Neon
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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2015 23:16    Post subject:
Kuchera "is taking a break" aka he's fired (probably) from Polygon:

https://archive.today/sNB1M




Good riddance, motherfucker.
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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Mar 2015 23:27    Post subject:
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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 00:06    Post subject:
Good, less drama queens with personal agentas in the gaming industry, please. (Regardless of their actual beliefs.)
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Steelone




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 00:17    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
Kuchera "is taking a break" aka he's fired (probably) from Polygon:

https://archive.today/sNB1M




Good riddance, motherfucker.


Let's take a minute to reflect on the genius that is Ben Kuchera.

Kuchera supporting Paedophilia (also that grammar):


Kuchera on nipple guards and his spiky penis:


Just a sample, there is tetrisgate and everything else as well.
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Mar 2015 02:55    Post subject:
garus wrote:
VonMisk wrote:

Laughing

Homosexual Cis black men as well Very Happy


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Steelone




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Apr 2015 10:14    Post subject:
American McGee just posted this:

American McGee wrote:

I'm prepared for the SJW flamethrower...

Seriously, isn't Anita saying this character is acceptable because she's such a blank slate? I can't help but think the "woman" in this game might as well be wearing a burka for all the identity she has. If this is "positive" and we (as game writer/designers) are meant to emulate this model... then I imagine the characters in our future games getting some really odd looks as they walk down the streets of virtual Los Angeles, sneak through the corridors of Space Station 009, or try to blend into any world that isn't a magical fantasy world of pixel make-believe.

To me, real characters, positive characters, have flaws. They're broken. They have an identity constructed of past events - good and bad. Like real people, they might make poor "life choices" which result in them being shallow minded, skin revealing, homicidal maniacs, who wear women's lingerie under their space armor. Or, like the rest of us, they might be who they are, and wear what they wear, because society (the real world) hasn't left them many other options. If we're going to tell real stories, it's best we do that with characters who closely resemble real people.

Pixel burka woman is art. So are real people.


https://www.facebook.com/americanmcgee/posts/10152832790032075
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Apr 2015 11:17    Post subject:
That character doesn't even look human in any way.

Ridiculous indie clique is ridiculous.

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VonMisk




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Apr 2015 12:16    Post subject:
Steelone wrote:
American McGee just posted this:

American McGee wrote:

I'm prepared for the SJW flamethrower...

Seriously, isn't Anita saying this character is acceptable because she's such a blank slate? I can't help but think the "woman" in this game might as well be wearing a burka for all the identity she has. If this is "positive" and we (as game writer/designers) are meant to emulate this model... then I imagine the characters in our future games getting some really odd looks as they walk down the streets of virtual Los Angeles, sneak through the corridors of Space Station 009, or try to blend into any world that isn't a magical fantasy world of pixel make-believe.

To me, real characters, positive characters, have flaws. They're broken. They have an identity constructed of past events - good and bad. Like real people, they might make poor "life choices" which result in them being shallow minded, skin revealing, homicidal maniacs, who wear women's lingerie under their space armor. Or, like the rest of us, they might be who they are, and wear what they wear, because society (the real world) hasn't left them many other options. If we're going to tell real stories, it's best we do that with characters who closely resemble real people.

Pixel burka woman is art. So are real people.


https://www.facebook.com/americanmcgee/posts/10152832790032075


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I wonder how her backers would feel if they knew she was shilling her friend's game...

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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Apr 2015 13:22    Post subject:
It's about god damned time some of the bigger developers started speaking out against this. Well fucking said American McGee.
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Steelone




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2015 10:00    Post subject:
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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2015 21:43    Post subject:
Great. Another Cracked article on the topic. It's very bad:

http://www.cracked.com/article_22230_5-ugly-realities-being-woman-in-gaming-industry.html
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2015 23:03    Post subject:
Written by Brianna Wu and her companion/"thing" Amanda Warner. Yeah, no thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2015 23:06    Post subject:
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tonizito
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Apr 2015 13:39    Post subject:
Firedorn wrote:
Actually, there was a choice. They asked me if I wanted to change in light of what happened. I chose to change it so that they can concentrate on the game instead of this PR nightmare. They weren't going to change it, they asked ME if I wanted to. I can find another platform to write my controversial crap, and I will. They, on the other hand, did the right thing and allowed me to decide the fate of the epitaph. I chose to turn into something that made fun of the bitch-bastards that were complaining.

They went above and beyond what I would have expected them to do.
Eh, good enough for me.
Honestly, boycotting obsidian over this is as bad as boycotting them over the limerick (whatever Laughing) in the first place. And the writing was on the wall pretty much as soon as it started, sawyer likes dat sjw clique (even if he likely doesn't have the final word on the decision).

The real fun will start when the special flowers and hitler wannabe's start bitching about actual content or quests developed by obsidian themselves. Because now they could get behind all of the "wasn't us, wasn't intentional", but as soon as it happens again and they don't have that excuse, then we'll see. And then, if they cave in, then I'll believe that you won't even need to start with any boycott calls, IMO people will see and understand that it's just not worth it to keep supporting them and they'll be openly mocked.


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Apr 2015 13:47    Post subject:
I don't believe it at all. I simply do *not* believe they offered him a choice, I think he's lying in order to cover it up and make it seem like it was his choice, so he comes out a "hero".
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Steelone




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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Apr 2015 13:49    Post subject:
It really doesn't sound very voluntary.
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tonizito
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Apr 2015 13:51    Post subject:
dafuq, now I think you guys are just grasping at straws Neutral


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Apr 2015 13:53    Post subject:
I'm sorry Toni, I think the post speaks for itself. It seems quite clear to me (far clearer, for instance, than the "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!111111 OMG! THE NEW GRAVE IS SO FUCKING HILARIOUS! IT REALLY DIGS AT SJWs!!!! BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNED! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!" that some people are posting and I simply don't see what they're seeing) that he sure as hell didn't make the choice willingly. It looks more than a little coerced to me and I absolutely do not believe Obs gave him a choice, but rather they gave him the APPEARANCE of coming out on top after forcing him to change the limerick.

In the end, it doesn't matter. Everyone will go on supporting the company, proving time and time again that people like Ian Miles Cheong, Brianna Wu and that icequeendudeperson have total and complete control over the industry. I won't think less of you for buying Obs games, Toni, I ask the same courtesy in return for me removing my future support of them. Let's just live and let live.
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Steelone




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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Apr 2015 13:59    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
dafuq, now I think you guys are just grasping at straws Neutral


I doubt we'll ever know the full truth with it. Firedorn likes the company enough to give them $500, so I doubt he'll say anything overly damaging about them.

Maybe it was entirely voluntary and he's just venting about the stupidity of the situation, or maybe it was the illusion of choice and they would change it anyway if he hadn't done it voluntarily.
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tonizito
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Apr 2015 14:09    Post subject:
Yeah, we'll just never know but I'll take what he's saying on that post, that he'll chose his battles on the whole sjw fuckery elsewhere as what's likely true.


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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