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| DCB wrote: | One stupid thing was a big part of the deal with Paradox that they pushed was all the supposed benefits of them helping out with QA. Doesn't seem like that helped much in practice.
I also have to wonder what the point of a limited content beta was. Granted I can see the desire to keep the narrative under wraps prior to release, but comparing the first and second halves of Wasteland 2 shows the massive benefit of having backers beta test the actual core content vs keeping things internal. |
From what I've heard a lot of these bugs weren't present in the beta, some were even fixed during the beta but reintroduced in release.
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Apr 2015 20:07 Post subject: |
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That's my point. The beta wasn't a beta of the actual final game, it was a separate offshoot. And that was a mistake.
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Apr 2015 20:21 Post subject: |
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| Radicalus wrote: | Just read in a thread, that patch *should* be done by tomorrow evening (so that's saturday for us EU folk). I have the GOG version, so they rarely patch on holidays, from what I've seen so far.
Which means Monday or Tuesday for me.
At this point, I'm like fuck this shit. I had time until then to play, I will be busy with other stuff later on.
Huge mistake to not fix really simple issues in 24 hours. The only reason this bothers me so, is because I really liked the game, but like I said before, it's a budget title, and now it really shows. |
Well, I was effected by bloated saves and attributes bug, but with community solutions, I fixed them both and had no further problems. I even continued to using that bugged spell and summonings. Naturally It's not ideal needing to check file sizes, and using a fix if the get bloated, but I don't see it as something that would keep me from playing.
Besides that, the game is very clean quest wise. Even more so that Wasteland 2 at launch. I guess both companies learned on past mistakes at least in that area.
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Apr 2015 21:12 Post subject: |
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Preliminary patch notes: https://forums.obsidian.net/blog/7/entry-179-patch-notes-103/
Huge mistake bundling up the fixes instead of releasing the critical ones. I just can't understand, why they want to get everything done in one bundle, and not launch the gamebreaking hotfixes. Boggles the mind, really.
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Apr 2015 21:24 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Arbalest damage has been lowered |
I reckon they haven't increased their attack speed 
| Quote: | | Tuned down Mind Blades. |
noooooooes
| Quote: | | Slicken spell is now a single hit AoE. |
noooooooooes
| Quote: | | Changed reload speed multiplier from 2 to 1.2 for Sure-Handed Ila. |
noooooooooes
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Apr 2015 21:28 Post subject: |
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If I didn't already have the AoE sleep spell I would be annoyed at Slicken being nerfed.
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Apr 2015 21:30 Post subject: |
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I seriously hope they won't start nerfing ciphers... I'd rather they buffed other classes.
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Apr 2015 21:32 Post subject: |
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Wasn't there a spell like slicken in BG? I don't remember..
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Apr 2015 21:33 Post subject: |
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Yeah, I never used Slicken a single time. Used Aloth for AoE damage. No need to do anything else with the engagement system in the game.
Bet the backer joke will be a stealth removal.
| h0rnyfavn wrote: | | I seriously hope they won't start nerfing ciphers... I'd rather they buffed other classes. |
Game is pretty easy as is. PotD would be the only difficulty with any challenging parts if they buffed everything to Cipher level.
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Apr 2015 21:34 Post subject: |
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| h0rnyfavn wrote: | | Wasn't there a spell like slicken in BG? I don't remember.. |
Grease I guess, standard low-level spell of D&D I believe along with sleep (Although you don't coup-de-grace enemies in BG1 after using that spell on them unlike D&D.) and a few others, haste is arguably pretty powerful as well although most of the D&D computer games featuring that spell had it being nearly mandatory in tougher fights as it doubles your attacks.
(Whereas fireball was pretty toned down unlike some earlier DOS games - SSI Goldbox for example. - where it affected a huge area and remained viable nearly for the entire game, heh.)
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Apr 2015 21:40 Post subject: |
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Ah, yes. I remember it. Dat fireball had the power of a portable nuclear bomb
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Apr 2015 23:33 Post subject: |
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Can someone help me, I'm not quite sure this is a bug, but it's very strange.
I haven't used Hiravias at all, but he has like ... 20 base damage reduction and the other damage reductions are pretty high as well. What the fuck?
Is this normal?
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2015 00:18 Post subject: |
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| Radicalus wrote: | Can someone help me, I'm not quite sure this is a bug, but it's very strange.
I haven't used Hiravias at all, but he has like ... 20 base damage reduction and the other damage reductions are pretty high as well. What the fuck?
Is this normal? |
Not used him yet, but that does sound overly high. Stat stacking bug maybe? |
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2015 00:40 Post subject: |
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| Steelone wrote: | | Radicalus wrote: | Can someone help me, I'm not quite sure this is a bug, but it's very strange.
I haven't used Hiravias at all, but he has like ... 20 base damage reduction and the other damage reductions are pretty high as well. What the fuck?
Is this normal? |
Not used him yet, but that does sound overly high. Stat stacking bug maybe? |
Never used him before. He was sent straight to stronghold, and I thought I could continue the game, since I did all the stats on my whole party, and only one was bugged - Kana  (( I enjoyed him most. But decided to continue with Hiravias. Added him to the party, and he has this incredibly high damage reduction, which makes no sense - seems like a new bug
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2015 03:47 Post subject: |
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| djaoni wrote: | If you want good weapons, go buy them in the Salty Mast brothel. They are pretty sweet(Exceptional).
Won't spoil how to get into the prestigious VIP club of CRPGs with the weapons, though. |
I think i did all the posible quests in the brothel, can you spoil me how to access the vip room?
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2015 03:54 Post subject: |
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| gazzu wrote: | | djaoni wrote: | If you want good weapons, go buy them in the Salty Mast brothel. They are pretty sweet(Exceptional).
Won't spoil how to get into the prestigious VIP club of CRPGs with the weapons, though. |
I think i did all the posible quests in the brothel, can you spoil me how to access the vip room? |
 Spoiler: | Really, you couldn't google it? Talk to the drunk. Or kill the bouncer and pick the lock |
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2015 04:09 Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure there will be mod to restore it.
Regardless, it changes nothing. Obsidian is spineless pussies.
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gazzu
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2015 06:38 Post subject: |
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| Kein wrote: | | I'm pretty sure there will be mod to restore it. |
Actually people want a mod to get rid of all the other ones as well. I never bothered reading the gravestones myself after the first one or two, but it seems people with OCD can't help themselves and have to click on every single interactive object.
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2015 10:30 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2015 10:47 Post subject: |
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What I don't like is how they decided to make fights more "challenging" but in fact they just made playing this game somewhat irritating coz these changes are really dubious to say the least ..
- rest limit
- certain buffing spells disabled out of combat
This one doesn't make any sense at all. Why a wizard can't cast this or that defensive\buffing spell outside of combat? It's just contrived.And this is why it is so irritating
- certain attack abilities disabled out of combat
It doesn't make any sense either. So, a fighter can't use X to attack someone coz..well. no reason.. just coz devs say so.
These totally artificial constraints are just bad pretty much coz they are ridiculous and make absolutely no sense. That's just lazy.
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Apr 2015 10:50 Post subject: |
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Yea, that fight gave me a headache in the beta It was actually even harder, because
| Spoiler: | Alyss didn't run off - she just standed there and got killed when I used AoE. So I had to cast that lvl 1 priest protection spell to make her disappear - and remember to recast it if needed - before I could get on with the fighting. |
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