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aum
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 Posted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:33 Post subject: DT4 officaly released |
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Sorry for makeing a new thread, but this way people see it.
According to the DT page, it is released.
Have fun grabbing it
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swebarb
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Location: Vikingland
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:46 Post subject: |
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What the fuck is the point of this shit? No IDE drives, no x64 support and not a single word regarding StarForce. Pure and utter crap.
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:49 Post subject: |
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| Code: | Dear DT-Community,
today, we release the new V4.00.
As we already heard from our customers, it fixes indeed
most or even all blacklists - however, it is STILL a SCSI-Emulator,
therefore it's still necessary to remove present IDE-Drives!
As nearly all protections now block ALL SCSI-Drives, no matter
if REAL or VIRTUAL, you need to DISABLE your ide-drives!
This version is more or less only a "next step", it does NOT
contain an IDE-Jammer atm. However, we are working on it and
will hopefully have it ready soon. So be warned - do NOT complain
about the "lack" of the IDE-Jammer-Device. We release it now,
as is. It fullfilles its job as long as no IDE is present in
System or you otherwise block that IDE-nodes. After all it's
STILL free!
Another important change is the integration of ADWARE.
Yes, we need that revenues. However, we decided to let
YOU choose to run it with ADWARE and support us - or simple
turn it OFF in installation-process and run it same way
as former versions - without ADWARE. By default, it is turned
ON - to not install that ADWARE, please UNCHECK at installation
"DAEMON TOOLS SEARCHBAR" (or you can remove it anytime later when
you wish via "Control Panel"-> "Add/Remove programs")
We leave that decision to you, so please don't blame us that we did
it that way. It was a compromise to continue the free support -
we would much appreciate it if you install that ADWARE-stuff. We set-
up a special forum so please post in THAT forum only about questions,
concerns or anything else that is related to that ADWARE. The forum's
name is "DAEMON Tools Searchbar".
To sum it up:
- NO IDE-Jammer atm - we are working on it! No ETA for it - it's done
when it's done!
- ADWARE INCLUDED - you can, however, UNCHECK that ADWARE at installation!
The changelog for V4:
- complete redesign from scratch
- support of 4 virtual drives
- ONLY X32-supported now. X64 will follow
- Drivername randomly generated on each machine (not finished yet)
- Drive-vendor and versionnumber randomly generated
- Complete new emulation architecture
- DCP (DaemonCodeProtect) to make analyses harder and increase development time for malicious anti-DT tools
- Digital signature verification of applications who are trusted to access DT in secure mode
- AutoInsertNotification fully implemented (can be turned on/off at ControlPanel)
- Dropped: MS-Installer, DT now use modificated NullsoftInstaller
- Dropped: analog sound support (as Windows 2000 and above do not need this feature)
- supports all popular copyprotections
Again: This version is an "in between" step to fix latest issues not only
with protections but also many other issues and installation-problems.
We work hard to release soon next update! |
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:56 Post subject: |
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it cant emulate properly SD or Securom 7 (i dont mention even SF and tages) so there is no difference between 3.47 and 4.00
- supports all popular copyprotections
lol ? cd-checks and sd < 4.6 and secur < 7
i cant stop laugh when im reading -TNT nfo's they act like a leaders and do cd-checks !
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 23:57 Post subject: |
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? u serious?
every single starforce game works simply unpluggind cd/dvd drives.
with dtools pro even the unplugging won't be necessary.
forget sfcure and 100 passages to run king kong or anything else, just mount, unplug and play
as for safedisc and securom, they blacklist every scsi drive, virtual or real it may be... have to wait for ide virtual drive in dtools pro to see the revolution, but this one is still way better then sfcure
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 00:12 Post subject: How to uninstall daemon tools? |
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Hey ppl, i was trying to update to new version of daemon tools, but the normal installation don't work, i can't uninstall the program because the program gives me an error, The error is " A network error was occurred while attempting to read from the fille : C:Windows\installer\daemon.msi" How can i uninstall daemon without reinstall the windows? In regedit what do i have to erase, and in other directorys ? Please someone help me?
Done, i erase the register of the old version of daemon.
Last edited by Carlos_o_Chacal on Tue, 15th Nov 2005 03:26; edited 1 time in total
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SycoShaman
VIP Master Jedi
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Location: Toronto, Canada
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 02:08 Post subject: |
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So there is no difference? except updated code?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 03:10 Post subject: |
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"We'll release it along with Duke Nukem Forver" that's what they should say and get it over with.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 04:11 Post subject: |
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dt dev sucks ass, they are just trying to cash in with a pro version of dt and putting adware in dt4, no better than people who sells warez. I says warez the shit out of dt 4, and dt pro when it's released.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 04:18 Post subject: |
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Whining about the adware is quite lame to be honest. You can choose not to install the adware, they are not forcing you to do it. It's all up to you.
Adware or no adware, the program behaves and works the same way.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 04:20 Post subject: |
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you forgot that adware company pays them cash for bundling adware. My problem is not adware, my problem is more with the "cashin' in" aspect.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 04:24 Post subject: |
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So what, if you dont want to support them, dont, it's as simple as that.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 04:32 Post subject: |
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and if you don't agree with what i say, don't reply, simple.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 04:44 Post subject: |
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Well the Deamon Tools dev were under pressure 10000 of people want that shit so the releases a beta like tool ...
the starforce addon will be released with an new update that makes ATAPI Emultion unstand of fucking SCSI ...
Guys the Customer Edition is without Ad -Aware 
And yes folks, atm, just unplug IDE CD/DVD-ROM drives and most if not all protections shoulf work, so far I have tested TON of games and all are working, with exception of Age of Empires 3, but im unsure how to make a "working" copy of Smarte protection, not sure Alcohol 120% supports Smarte yet.
StarForce only requires an image made with RMPS and DPM, as enable RMPS in Daemon-Tools (BEFORE) mounting it! Same with other protections, SecuROM, SafeDisc ect.. make sure to enable them before you mount the image. It works for me...
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 05:12 Post subject: |
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"Guys the Customer Edition is without Ad -Aware"
The customer edition is supposed to be for people who donated money to the dt dev team.
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nightlith
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Location: Land of Bagged Milk
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 05:46 Post subject: |
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haha wait what?? As I understood it this program was supposed to allow clone images to work without any outside interference (like unplugging drives)?
So I want to play Civ4 clone. Under DT3.47 I need to mount it and run SD4hide. No problem, easy app to run small and hopefully trojan free. Same thing under DT4. What?
I don't really care to be honest. I never believed the claims DT4 would work flawlessly with current CP. It's just kinda silly that to me, there's no difference between DT4 and DT3.47.
Out of interest, I'd rather just turn the IDE channel to None for my rom drive in the bios. Is that equivalent to unplugging it? Or does the new CPs have a magical way of sensing drives that are un turned of channels?
i can has computar?!
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 06:18 Post subject: |
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| nightlith wrote: | haha wait what?? As I understood it this program was supposed to allow clone images to work without any outside interference (like unplugging drives)?
So I want to play Civ4 clone. Under DT3.47 I need to mount it and run SD4hide. No problem, easy app to run small and hopefully trojan free. Same thing under DT4. What?
I don't really care to be honest. I never believed the claims DT4 would work flawlessly with current CP. It's just kinda silly that to me, there's no difference between DT4 and DT3.47.
Out of interest, I'd rather just turn the IDE channel to None for my rom drive in the bios. Is that equivalent to unplugging it? Or does the new CPs have a magical way of sensing drives that are un turned of channels? |
Well, SF is quite magic at it. So, above v3.5, SF drivers can see your roms even when both channels are turned off via BIOS. Not to mention that they're trying to reset the IDE controllers like crazy, that's why you need to physically remove the IDE cable (removing only the power cables doesn't work for me 'cause the PC locks at startup at the "detecting IDE drives" screen).
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nightlith
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Location: Land of Bagged Milk
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 06:28 Post subject: |
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well that's SF, and I refuse to install or buy games that use it. I mean it does so much undocumented shit, some of which PC hardware isn't designed to do. I mean fuck, SF is nothing short of a hacking trojan. I wouldn't be shocked for a second to find a call-home script buried in it that exploits holes in firewalls or routers. Hell, they don't have to exploit anything. Just mask outgoing code as coming from IE on port 80 and blammo, SF devs know everything about what you do and install.
Well regardless I did get this to work with SD4 clones. Had to unplug the power (it's easier to reach under my desk than pull the whole damn tower out to unplug an IDE) but it works without 3rd party apps.
i can has computar?!
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 06:37 Post subject: |
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Ok long story short. If you mount games like ufo aftershock, the suffering 2 or splinter cell 4 with daemon tools and unplug your ide's will the games work without dooing anything else?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 06:41 Post subject: |
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If you do some digging, you will see that SecuROM7 also installs some nice services. Have a look at msconfig, you'll find SecuROM User Access Service (V7), which is starting automatically.Then have a look at C:\Documents and Settings\"whatever your name is"\Application Data\SecuROM\UserData, there you'll find some nice system files, named with some unspeakable characters : "ЃϵϳЅЂϿϽϯІχϯπρϯϸϹϴϴϵϾ" that's what I get, and don't even mention deleting them, it's not possible, not the usual way that is. You have to follow some twisted steps there too. So, SF is not the only one in this pursuit for our "safety".
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nightlith
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Location: Land of Bagged Milk
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 07:11 Post subject: |
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Yes, I've noticed that while digging around my system ensuring everything is neat and tidy. But unlike SF3, SR7 hasn't fucked my system into oblivion  I swear not two days after installing (A legitly bought!) TOCA2, I got the ol FU from windows and had to do full reinstall. Not to mention TOCA2 sucked so much shit I'm surprised I didn't smell anything when I bought the game. I'll stick with my Gran Turismo franchise, tyvm.
Also installing a SR7 game doesn't require you to reboot the pc just to play. I got XP so I can have a stable system that doesn't require nightly reboots to work. Hell 1 reboot a month is 2 reboots to many. And hell, I'm not even going to mention how SF3 violates my fair use rights under canadian copyright law. I don't mind SD or SR or whatever because it's usually cracked, and heck clones of those games work. But since I can't make (a legal) backup copy of a SF3 disc, that works when I want to use it, SF3 is breaking the law.
And the whole "oh if your disc is defective, you can get a new one from us for FULL PRICE+SHIPPING HAHAHAHHAHAHA".
And hey, lets not forget SF3 can crash entire Rom drives with it's agressive CP scanning. Or legit users complaining they can't play a legitly bought $60 game because SF3 says NO.
Bah. SF developers should be drawn and quartered. Pure and simple.
i can has computar?!
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 07:14 Post subject: |
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im still curious if you mount games like ufo aftershock, the suffering 2 or splinter cell 4 with daemon tools and unplug your ide's will the games work without dooing anything else?
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nightlith
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