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Janz




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 16:48    Post subject:
meh 20 euros? nope, about 9,99 to support them yes, but 20 is too much
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 16:49    Post subject:
Paid now? I thought it was a free mod Mad 20 bucks, too much anyway.


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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 16:50    Post subject:
motherfucker.. "Website is offline No cached version of this page is available."
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Janz




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 16:51    Post subject:
free version will be still available. they always said that and they said a long time ago there will be a paid version with xen levels, engine improvements, multiplayer. but still 20 bucks is too much
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 16:56    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 16:57    Post subject:
I think 20$ absolutely fine.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 16:58    Post subject:
Another mod turns retail, which is fine, I understand that and some *highly* successful mods have done the same -- but $20 in "early access"? MEH. Come back when you've finished the game, seriously.
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 17:00    Post subject:
i think it's slightly too much.. off-topic; anyone heard anything about that stalker mod which was going retail?
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 17:14    Post subject:
What a joke. $20 for an EARLY ACCESS game that was released in nearly the same state almost THREE YEARS AGO.
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 17:19    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
i think it's slightly too much.. off-topic; anyone heard anything about that stalker mod which was going retail?

Lost Alpha?
Someone leaked it so they cancelled it and released for free.
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 17:20    Post subject:
hilarious to me that they're actually allowed to make money off of remaking valves game


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 17:21    Post subject:
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hilarious to me that they're actually allowed to make money off of remaking valves game


They certainly did a better job of it than Valve did with their "Half-Life: Source" release grinhurt
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Janz




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 17:23    Post subject:
valves hl source was made with a one click convertion tool Wink
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 17:24    Post subject:
The amount of effort involved isn't in question, I was just comparing the two in general.
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 17:33    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
valves hl source was made with a one click convertion tool Wink


and its still better than this, despite the quality of the content on offer. butchering "on the rail" and "surface tension" by more than 50% each, and not including xen,

not to mention the early access selling of almost 3 year old content is just crap in my book.
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 17:37    Post subject:
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early access


More like late access.

Meh.
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Janz




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 17:40    Post subject:
those greedy assholes even removed the free version from steam and replaced the download link on their site with the buy now button

ofc its still present on moddb etc
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 17:40    Post subject:
Early access Reaction
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 17:40    Post subject:
Yeah, I have to agree that this whole thing is a little strange. Aside from MP, what exactly has changed in the last 2 years since BMS was released as a mod? No, going to "Early Access" for this is just ridiculous. The game should have been FINISHED by now, instead we're asked to pay $20 and wait even longer?

Meh.
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 18:22    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Yeah, I have to agree that this whole thing is a little strange. Aside from MP, what exactly has changed in the last 2 years since BMS was released as a mod? No, going to "Early Access" for this is just ridiculous. The game should have been FINISHED by now, instead we're asked to pay $20 and wait even longer?

Meh.



Apparently it has updated models and new voice acting
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 18:26    Post subject:
Aye, it seems like the BMS team are getting REAMED on Steam over the $20 Early Access release, so they posted this on Facebook to try and calm people down;

https://www.facebook.com/BlackMesaDevs/posts/987210851297724

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What's New in the Steam Release of Black Mesa?
- HEAVILY UPDATED SINGLE-PLAYER EXPERIENCE: The Black Mesa single player experience has greatly improved from the mod release; new visuals, new voice over, updated gameplay encounters, stability changes and more. Xen is not part of the Steam release of Black Mesa, but will be included as a free update when it is ready.
- BLACK MESA MULTIPLAYER: Fight with or against your friends, in two game modes across six iconic maps from the Half-Life Deathmatch universe: Bounce, Gasworks, Lambdabunker, Stalkyard, Subtransit and Undertow
- CUSTOM MODDING TOOLS: Use the same tools the developers used to create your own mods, modes and maps for Black Mesa and Black Mesa Multiplayer...
- FULLY INTEGRATED WORKSHOP: ... and then share your work on the fully integrated workshop!
- COMPLETE STEAM INTEGRATION: Collect trading cards, backgrounds, emoticons, achievements, and everything else you would expect out of a Steam integrated game.


Still, seems too little too late considering the nearly 3 year development time since mod release. The fangirls and defence brigade are out in full force on Facebook too.. no surprise there.
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 19:06    Post subject:
Kein wrote:
vurt wrote:
i think it's slightly too much.. off-topic; anyone heard anything about that stalker mod which was going retail?

Lost Alpha?
Someone leaked it so they cancelled it and released for free.


Oh? this must have been fairly recent then? I remember reading on the official site for Lost Alpha being funded by the developer and going retail, this was perhaps 4-5 months ago..
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Kein
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 19:38    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
Kein wrote:
vurt wrote:
i think it's slightly too much.. off-topic; anyone heard anything about that stalker mod which was going retail?

Lost Alpha?
Someone leaked it so they cancelled it and released for free.


Oh? this must have been fairly recent then? I remember reading on the official site for Lost Alpha being funded by the developer and going retail, this was perhaps 4-5 months ago..

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/133471-STALKER-Lost-Alpha-Plan-Scrapped-Over-Pre-Release-Leak
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 19:50    Post subject:
Odd way to handle things really. Razz
I thought they had plans to release the whole game without missing parts, and with updated maps as well (Black Mesa was incredible, but needed some heavy rebalancing).
This sounds more like a donation or a way to say thank you, which would be more than okay, but a 20 dollar donation..eh. I'll pass.



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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 20:25    Post subject:
codex release hopefully. I do want to replay this with the fixes, as who knows when xen comes out. but i'm not paying for an incomplete version.


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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 20:34    Post subject:
Drowning_witch wrote:
codex release hopefully. I do want to replay this with the fixes, as who knows when xen comes out. but i'm not paying for an incomplete version.


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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 20:42    Post subject:
Just wait some more then? Propably will be on sale when Xen is released anyway.

Just can't agree with the flak but that's because I liked it so much and deem it worth the 20€... Not saying anyone is wrong or anything. To each his own.

Enjoyed this more than alot of fullprice titles I bought though.. which says alot.


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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 20:46    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
Just wait some more then? Propably will be on sale when Xen is released anyway.

Just can't agree with the flak but that's because I liked it so much and deem it worth the 20€... Not saying anyone is wrong or anything. To each his own.

Enjoyed this more than alot of fullprice titles I bought though.. which says alot.



Game is great and, as a full game, is absolutely worth €20. The "flak" is over the 10 year development cycle, the eventual release, the missing Xen, the butchered On The Rail/Surface Tension levels, the two and a half year wait for Xen, then the reveal of the same game released on Steam for €20 yet still missing Xen.

That's the flak, m3th0d mate. The game isn't finished and they're trying to sell it.. two and a half years since the last unfinished release. Twelve and a half years since development started.

When it's FINISHED it will be worth €20, absolutely.
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 20:53    Post subject:
Yep, the finished single-player even without the shitass multiplayer will be worth the 20€.


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PostPosted: Tue, 5th May 2015 20:59    Post subject:
Oh, I'm sure as hell not buying it now. I wait till that thing is done 100% before I pick it up. But then they definitely get my monies because they deserve it.


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