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| Ronhrin wrote: | | 24 hours later, has ANYONE, with IDE drives manage to play X3 Reunion without unplugging the cables? |
no it's impossibile, NEED to unplug... don't even waste time trying not to do it if u don't have a sata drive
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 20:55 Post subject: |
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can u just disable drives in device manager ?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 20:56 Post subject: |
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i have a SATA converter plug for my IDE drive... wonder if that will work?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 20:57 Post subject: |
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NO. NEED TO UNPLUG... how many times do u want to hear this again? onplug of forget to play starforce 3.5+ games
edit: no idea on the sata converter.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 20:57 Post subject: |
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the games im trying are SF 3.5- games tho
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 20:58 Post subject: |
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| paraiso36 wrote: | Good Day,
Really, all this is getting very confusing and really we do need someone that can clarify it all...What I understand from all I have read is the following,
1.- Games with SF Protection version older than 3.5 works with DT4 and SFN.
2.- Games with SF Protection version greater than 3.5 need to UNPLUG IDE cables.
With the two points above, from my point of view, DT4 does very little to improve our SF problems. But today, I have read need posts and things are getting more complicated,
a.- Some members say they run every game with DT4 and SFN.....Please can you explain how you do that, if you have to unplug your IDE cables and what do you mean by all games?
b.- Other members tell that they cannot make any game to run with DT4.
c.- And now the SATA "revelation". There are posts that indicate that if you have Windows installed in a SATA drive you dont need to UNPLUG any cable..only use SFN. If this is true, can you explain the reason, or better what options do you use in SFN?..really...only saying ALL THE GAMES WORKS doesnt help a lot.
LAST MINUTE TESTS:
I have a SATA HDD and IDE optical drives. I concluded te following using GT Legends as dummy test,
1.- GT Legends + DT4 + SFN : Disc Protection Error
2.- GT Legends + DT4 + OPTICAL IDES UNPLUGGED : Works OK.
So please, the member that posted about SATA drives can he calrify if he has IDES?, if he unplugs them? or what configuration does he use with SFN?
I will post newer results with my SATA HDD later...But please I make a call to someone who can clarify all this mess..Thanks.. |
I can play GT Legends just by mounting the image. Dont have to unplug my IDE drives  
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 20:58 Post subject: |
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| BloodAngel wrote: | | the games im trying are SF 3.5- games tho |
nope. ufo is 3.6, trackmania with extreme expansion is 3.6 too
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 20:59 Post subject: |
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when you say sata drive, you mean sata disk drive? or sata cd/dvd drive?
I have a sata disk drive, will that save me from unplugging the cables?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:02 Post subject: |
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snak3bite... how did u manage that ?
Selt... is trackmania sunrise without free expansion 3.5 or less ?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:03 Post subject: |
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will DT4 Pro have any IDE patch that will prevent us from disconnecting the cables?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:04 Post subject: |
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maybe SATA is good because we can disable channels in SFN? Can somebody try this?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:05 Post subject: |
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| Ronhrin wrote: | | will DT4 Pro have any IDE patch that will prevent us from disconnecting the cables? |
dtools pro will be a ide virtual drive, problem solved, nothing to disable don't worry
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:05 Post subject: |
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trackmania sunrise without extreme update is sf <3.5!
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:06 Post subject: |
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can anyone post if someone knows what progress is being made by DT team or any other team in order to prevent IDE unplugging?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:06 Post subject: |
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| J4keJ4ke wrote: | | trackmania sunrise without extreme update is sf <3.5! |
yea, but he was trying to run it with extrame, which unpgrades the starforce revision to 3.6.something.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:08 Post subject: |
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| Ronhrin wrote: | | can anyone post if someone knows what progress is being made by DT team or any other team in order to prevent IDE unplugging? |
ide jammer. is a sfnightmare like tool to be intregrated in dtools4. no need to unplug drives also with daemonv4 when that tool is ready. of course dtoolspro is a way better and permanent solution
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:08 Post subject: |
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so i can uninstall extreme and then it shoudl work without unplugging ?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:09 Post subject: |
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but is there any ide jammer we can use now? without waiting for later versions of DT4?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:14 Post subject: |
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| Ronhrin wrote: | | but is there any ide jammer we can use now? without waiting for later versions of DT4? |
no, now it's upluggind of not playing sf 3.5 +
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:17 Post subject: |
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| Ronhrin wrote: | | but is there any ide jammer we can use now? without waiting for later versions of DT4? |
no theire isn't yet progress is slow but after deamon pro release probably everything gets better ,then other virtual drive company's will try to do the same and create IDE virtual drives.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:18 Post subject: |
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so I guess the remaining question is when will DT4 Pro or DT4 with IDE Jammer be released? any ideas?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:19 Post subject: |
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| Ronhrin wrote: | | so I guess the remaining question is when will DT4 Pro or DT4 with IDE Jammer be released? any ideas? |
ide jammer: when it's done
dtools pro: when it's done (little after ide jammer for sure)
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:24 Post subject: Re: PCI IDE Controller -> no more unplugging |
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| ChaosHunter wrote: | To whoever suggested that method in this thread: thanks!
Connected my drives to a cheap Promise Ultra100 TX2 I had and now all I need to do is disable the controller in the hardware manager to make StarForce accept the DT4 drive. Had only read about the USB method so far.
Only letdown with that controller is that it needs a CD inserted in any drive during bootup to enable itself, but better than unplugging anyway. |
Just make sure your Promise controller does not create problems for the optical drives you connected. Do some read / write (if you have a DVDRW or CDRW burner attached) tests. If things go bad replace the Promise with a Silicon Image controller, they have better support optical drives.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:24 Post subject: |
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but what do you believe to be the time frame on this solution? days? weeks? months?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:26 Post subject: |
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| snak3bite wrote: | | paraiso36 wrote: | Good Day,
Really, all this is getting very confusing and really we do need someone that can clarify it all...What I understand from all I have read is the following,
1.- Games with SF Protection version older than 3.5 works with DT4 and SFN.
2.- Games with SF Protection version greater than 3.5 need to UNPLUG IDE cables.
With the two points above, from my point of view, DT4 does very little to improve our SF problems. But today, I have read need posts and things are getting more complicated,
a.- Some members say they run every game with DT4 and SFN.....Please can you explain how you do that, if you have to unplug your IDE cables and what do you mean by all games?
b.- Other members tell that they cannot make any game to run with DT4.
c.- And now the SATA "revelation". There are posts that indicate that if you have Windows installed in a SATA drive you dont need to UNPLUG any cable..only use SFN. If this is true, can you explain the reason, or better what options do you use in SFN?..really...only saying ALL THE GAMES WORKS doesnt help a lot.
LAST MINUTE TESTS:
I have a SATA HDD and IDE optical drives. I concluded te following using GT Legends as dummy test,
1.- GT Legends + DT4 + SFN : Disc Protection Error
2.- GT Legends + DT4 + OPTICAL IDES UNPLUGGED : Works OK.
So please, the member that posted about SATA drives can he calrify if he has IDES?, if he unplugs them? or what configuration does he use with SFN?
I will post newer results with my SATA HDD later...But please I make a call to someone who can clarify all this mess..Thanks.. |
I can play GT Legends just by mounting the image. Dont have to unplug my IDE drives |
Really strange what you are talking about. Can you post your system specs and tell us how do you do it....Here are the final researchs with DT4 and GT LEGENDS using SATA HDD and IDE DVD/CD ROMs,
1.- GT Legends + SFN+DT4: Blue Screen and Crash...After testing I realized that the problem was turning off a channel with SFN thar hasnt any drive on it. After correcting this mistake the ERROR DISC Message appears.
2.- GT Legends + DT4 + Unplugging IDES = Works OK
So with newer versions of SF, Ineed to unplug cables and the game will work only mounting the image. At least that was what happened to me. I have a SATA HDD, and that didnt make the newer SF games work with only SFN.
So, I encourage the members that claims that they dont need to unplug the IDE Cables and have SATA HDD, explain what are they doing. I really doubt they are able to do it (not trying to offend anyone)..Thanks
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:26 Post subject: |
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ide jammer, matter of weeks seems to be reasonable. don't expect dtools pro in 2005 instead. compiling all the features for a ide drives is way complex than a simple scsi drive
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:38 Post subject: |
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This was posted in X3 whinning thread,
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alex7600 wrote:
I have one SATA HDD, one IDE burner and no IDE HDDs and managed to run X3 Reunion the following way:
1) Installed DAEMON 4
2) Installed game & started it -> starforce installed itself -> rebooted
3) Created new hardware profile & rebooted into it
4) In Device Manager I disabled for the active hardware profile IDE burner and after that entire IDE channel
5) Started the game and it works fine even after updating to the latest patch
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Abnyone can confirm this?.....And moreover, anyone can confirm this for other newer SF games?..thanks
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:48 Post subject: |
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hmmm...does anyone know what are the diffrences between the pro and this release of DT4??
and DT4 pro comes out?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:50 Post subject: |
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was testing matrix:path of neo fresh copy(without any patch) with dt4:
just mounting the image doesnt works,BUT if i rename the virtual drive in to anything in regestry it works fine with just mounted image.
now will patch it and test again
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How did you renamed it? Where in registry?
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