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consolitis
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Mar 2015 17:26    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
"I used it on a Playstation" - I want to see that. If that does work, I'll need one just to use with my PS4.


And you'll be able to play the amazing number of two games. Very Happy

http://www.ps4mouse.com/ps4-games-keyboard-mouse-support/

Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn
War Thunder


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Mar 2015 21:11    Post subject:
So they have given the prices and specifications of steam machines.

iBuyPower SBX – 459,99 $
Alienware Steam Machine – starts from 479,99 $
Syber Steam Machine – 499,99 $- 1.399,99 $
Gigabyte BRIX Pro – 599,99 $
Asus ROG GR8S – starts from 699,99 $
Digital Storm Eclipse Steam Machine – starts from 699,99 $
NextBox – 799,99 $ - 1.299,99 $
Maingear DRIFT – starts from 849,99 $
Materiel.net Steam Machine – starts from 899,99 $
ORIGIN OMEGA Steam Machine – 899,99 $ - 4,999,99 $
Webhallen S15-01 – starts from 949,99 $
Scan 3XS ST Steam Machine – 999,99 $ - 1.299,99 $
ZOTAC Steam Machine SN970 – starts from 999,99 $
Alternate Steam Machine – 1099,99 $- 1.999,99 $
Falcon Northwest Tiki Steam Machine – 1.999,99 $-4,999,99 $

You can check them on steam for their features. Overall, they seem okay, and pricing is fine for some of them. Instead of a laptop i'm gonna buy one of them i guess.
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Mar 2015 21:17    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
LeoNatan wrote:
Not only, but I actually owned one! Facepalm Laughing I think my mother got me one for either a holiday or birthday because I mentioned I would want a joypad (or whatever we used to call them then), so she went and bought that one hahaha. Imagine my surprise. Laughing



At least she meant well Razz

Sure. The sad thing was, we were not a wealthy family and that thing was expensive as shit. I felt bad asking her to go the store and replace it. But I had some fun with it.


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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Mar 2015 21:20    Post subject:
FadeToBlack wrote:
So they have given the prices and specifications of steam machines.

iBuyPower SBX – 459,99 $
Alienware Steam Machine – starts from 479,99 $
Syber Steam Machine – 499,99 $- 1.399,99 $
Gigabyte BRIX Pro – 599,99 $
Asus ROG GR8S – starts from 699,99 $
Digital Storm Eclipse Steam Machine – starts from 699,99 $
NextBox – 799,99 $ - 1.299,99 $
Maingear DRIFT – starts from 849,99 $
Materiel.net Steam Machine – starts from 899,99 $
ORIGIN OMEGA Steam Machine – 899,99 $ - 4,999,99 $
Webhallen S15-01 – starts from 949,99 $
Scan 3XS ST Steam Machine – 999,99 $ - 1.299,99 $
ZOTAC Steam Machine SN970 – starts from 999,99 $
Alternate Steam Machine – 1099,99 $- 1.999,99 $
Falcon Northwest Tiki Steam Machine – 1.999,99 $-4,999,99 $

You can check them on steam for their features. Overall, they seem okay, and pricing is fine for some of them. Instead of a laptop i'm gonna buy one of them i guess.


Wait for 75% off daily sale first! Mad


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Mar 2015 21:21    Post subject:
^hah Very Happy

anyways, here is the link to them:

http://store.steampowered.com/sale/steam_machines
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Mar 2015 21:40    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
The "coolest" thing about this controller is it is implementing the same technologies as a (failed) 1999 controller. "" indeed.


It's all about marketing. Smartphones and tablets existed for years before Apple made them but no one gave a shit and they were basically failed technologies.

And then Apple "invented" the smartphone and the tablet.
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Mar 2015 22:08    Post subject:
Isn't that what Apple always does? Take some fail attempt, finally make it well, and introduce it into mainstream. I have mocked Apple "superlatives" for years now, but it seems at least lately they have dropped this type of marketing (while Samsung caught it Laughing ).
And the use of the technology is fine here too, but claiming this is the coolest thing about the controller is laughable.


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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Mar 2015 23:43    Post subject:
I can't be bothered searching where I read it but basically Valve confirmed Steam Link, the 1080p@60 streaming device they will be selling, can stream whatever you want, not just Steam games. Even your desktop.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Mar 2015 23:54    Post subject:
FadeToBlack wrote:
So they have given the prices and specifications of steam machines.

iBuyPower SBX – 459,99 $
Alienware Steam Machine – starts from 479,99 $
Syber Steam Machine – 499,99 $- 1.399,99 $
Gigabyte BRIX Pro – 599,99 $
Asus ROG GR8S – starts from 699,99 $
Digital Storm Eclipse Steam Machine – starts from 699,99 $
NextBox – 799,99 $ - 1.299,99 $
Maingear DRIFT – starts from 849,99 $
Materiel.net Steam Machine – starts from 899,99 $
ORIGIN OMEGA Steam Machine – 899,99 $ - 4,999,99 $
Webhallen S15-01 – starts from 949,99 $
Scan 3XS ST Steam Machine – 999,99 $ - 1.299,99 $
ZOTAC Steam Machine SN970 – starts from 999,99 $
Alternate Steam Machine – 1099,99 $- 1.999,99 $
Falcon Northwest Tiki Steam Machine – 1.999,99 $-4,999,99 $

You can check them on steam for their features. Overall, they seem okay, and pricing is fine for some of them. Instead of a laptop i'm gonna buy one of them i guess.

surprisingly no one brought it up yet but.... anyone seen the specs? these 460-500$ machines are absolutely laughable. i3 dual core with integrated gpu or 1-2gb very low end dedicated gpu. ps4 and xbone are like supercomputers compared to these pieces of shit. i'm sorry but everyone who had arguments how pc gaming doesn't cost more than consoles... Laughing
only at around 1000$ mark you start to get something that MIGHT be close to ps4 performance Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Mar 2015 00:05    Post subject:
Prebuilt PCs tend to be expensive. Some of those are extra expensive due to their form factor as well.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Mar 2015 00:10    Post subject:
Well it has always been the case if you bought pre-build shite. So I wouldn't use these as a metric for pc gaming costing more than consoles. I don't think one would compare 'gam0r PCeehz ' from Alienware with custom build either to make a point how expensive it is.

My reaction was instantly: overpriced shite when I saw a few of them.


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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Mar 2015 01:05    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Mar 2015 02:15    Post subject:
Soon in the 'chiv trades games' thread: [H]500 TF2 keys [W] NextBox Very Happy Laughing

Them prices though! Seems Gabe is using Computer Discount as supplier Cool Face
Oh well, it's not that I have interest in these sorts of things anyway, I don't even own a TV. I'm only partially interested in VR for now, although we're still at the beginning. Razz
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Mar 2015 09:39    Post subject:
The reason that they are expensive is, in my opinion ofc, because of their mobility. I can't say that they want to have a war with consoles but i'm sure they gonna effect the laptop sales.

A decent laptop begins with the price 1000 usd and even that laptop doesn't give much of a performance. For example with the same money(or less) you can buy Maingear DRIFT or Asus ROG and it would be much much better(well, at least for me).

And ofc if you want, you can say fuck to all of that and buy yourself a sff rig.
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Mar 2015 23:52    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Mar 2015 02:05    Post subject:
Sorry if this have been answered but I have a question:
Steam machines are supposed to be connected to the big TV on the living room. Right... Does Valve know that a huge number of games don't have UI scale implemented? For example all Total War games are unplayable on a big TV without font mods. The machines ofc will not be able to scale the game if there isn't a built-in-game option and many games can't scale the text because of their engine limitation (Crusader Kings, EU 4 etc..).
What will be Valve's advice/solution? "Play 1m away from your 47'' or 55'' TV"?


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2015 21:46    Post subject:
@rgb#000
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nly at around 1000$ mark you start to get something that MIGHT be close to ps4 performance




If you buy already assembled all-in-one PCs then , yeah, sure but if you get all components separately and know where to buy best then it is considerably cheaper than getting premade PCs


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2015 22:44    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2015 23:03    Post subject:
Yes. At least in my country. Very Happy

Besides, most of these premade PCs are a mix of good hardware and crap hardware that shops want to get rid of lol

Anyways, why some of PC master race members buy premades is beyond me.. Where is fun in that? I think they'd better get a console Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2015 23:22    Post subject:


Yes.
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Jun 2015 00:01    Post subject:
WE already agreed that this is rather 1000$ when counted, rather than 350 Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Jun 2015 00:03    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
WE already agreed that this is rather 1000$ when counted, rather than 350 Laughing


We? Who's we? I certainly never agreed to anything Wink Just because it's "$1000" in Polish tissue paper, doesn't mean anything.. you know what Yankland is like... fuckers get all the good deals Sad
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Jun 2015 00:47    Post subject:
Yeah the hardware prices you get in the US is nuts.

It makes sense since it's such a poor country you know Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Jun 2015 00:59    Post subject:
@KillerCrocker

A lot of the stuff they add to the PC were used or on sale, so yeah....very possible.


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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Jun 2015 01:13    Post subject:
So... We can have a 350$ pc that can run witcher like ps4 !!!!!
But only in USA, only made of used parts. Here pc like that is about 900$-1000$ (new parts). Ps4 is certainly cheaper. And polish currency have nothing to do with anything.

But even my 2yo pc can manage witcher 3 at ultra (minus dumb hairworks) 1080p with solid 30 without any drops. So looks better than ps4 and have better, more stable framerate. But that's not fair too. My pc might be 2yo but 7870, ssd, 8gb ram and 2500k were top notch gear when I got em(ending of 2012). 2500k still is great, 7870 not really but I got it overclocked pretty well and it manages to to meet halfway of 7950 and 7970 performance somehow. It only lacks ram. 2gb is not enough these days. 2500k tho? still manages greatly at 4.5 ghz. it almost pisses me of, because I would like to go matx but can't because its impossible to find mobo for this old socket and I don't want to change cpu before real 8threaded intels are here


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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Jun 2015 01:13    Post subject:
Steam box could be interesting!
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Jun 2015 09:39    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
So... We can have a 350$ pc that can run witcher like ps4 !!!!!
But only in USA, only made of used parts. Here pc like that is about 900$-1000$ (new parts).

No, it damn well doesn't.



These are actual, current prices. About €580, brand new parts and this is 100% capable of running shit at 1080p without huge compromises. Certainly capable of running W3 at 1080p30.

€580 = ~$650 - and that's keeping VAT in. Without VAT (i.e. U.S. prices), this system comes out to 580 / 1.21 = €479 = ~$540. Is it as cheap as a PS4? Not quite, but this runs many things better than a PS4 and it's very close to what MS had the balls to ask for their piece of shit at launch ($499).
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Jun 2015 10:54    Post subject:
Werelds i'm extremely disappoint in you now. Sad

these specs are absolutely trash, and PS4 would just completely destroy that. you probably wouldn't even get 20fps in witcher3 on all low with that gpu, meanwhile PS4 runs at high-very high details and 30+fps. and then there's a huge price difference of 213 euros between that rig and ps4.

it's like most ppl are utterly clueless how weak low end pc components are, and how powerful in comparison consoles are.
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Runs better than PotatoStation 4. Cool


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