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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Jun 2015 22:23    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Ran on a single 980ti .. though, like with most impressive supposedly-single-card-honest-guvnor-totes-furreal super high-end visual powerhouse tech demos, it's not available to download or test for ourselves.

I remember there being runnable demos from nvidia and ati, back in the day /pepperidge farm

The chromatic abberation, greatly fluctuating framerate, aweful tearing, and the horrible youtube compression make this demo look a bit ridiculous.

Look at the dynamic volumetric fog - youtube compression completely blocks the view - wow. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Jun 2015 22:32    Post subject:
Yup, I remember those old demos too Very Happy Back when ATi/nVidia wanted their customers to show off their cards, rather than nVidia bullshitting their way through everything they do. I questioned their claims of Samaritan running on a single 680 back when they showed it off, I question it even today Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Jun 2015 22:36    Post subject:
Previous page...

lol wut

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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Jun 2015 22:47    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
Not impressive. All I see is nvidia physx smoke and lots of chromatic aberration.

Maybe look at the scenes again where they showed the Ray Traced shadows? Those look nice, imo Razz
And im sure you could easily use that in a real scene with more than one light source Cool Face

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srsly.. I understand dof and motion blur(proper object based) but CA has to go. Even cheapest dslr's don't produce this effect now. My canon 700d don't have ca with it's stock lense unless I zoom in 15x on an edge of a picture

On this point I can only agree. To be honest, even if your canon did cause that, so what? Why do we simulate errors caused by cameras. Why do even first person games utilize this effect? Bad bionic eyes? Wtf. Same with the lense flare effect.
You know what? We should reduce the static contrast ratio, so we would either get saturated bright tones or black crush or both. Lets also add lots and lots of salt and pepper noise, because cameras have that problem, too. That way 4K becomes easier as well. Just render at 1080p, scale it up, put lots of noise over the image, and bingo simulated a shitty phone camera. SUPER N-N-N-NXT Gen (skipped the E for awEsome! (TM)) Cool Face
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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 00:03    Post subject:
Ohh and dirty lens. Aka battlefield dirty face effect.. It's such a dumb fucking thing. Even if You covered camera lens in dirt, it still would not be visible this way or at all on a photo


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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 10:55    Post subject:
Dunno PhysX or not, but simulating stuff like smoke and shit looks to my eyes very good and that is going to bring nice shit games (but implementation to games is very poor since again consoles cant do this).
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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 16:55    Post subject:
http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/amd_fury_x_benchmarks_images_and_specifications_surface/1

Seems like the Fury X is beating the Titan-X and 980ti. Though... yeah... this...

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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 17:01    Post subject:
I'm more worried about "real" performance, especially after the 4GB twist You Suspicious Be


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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 17:35    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/amd_fury_x_benchmarks_images_and_specifications_surface/1

Seems like the Fury X is beating the Titan-X and 980ti. Though... yeah... this...



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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 17:39    Post subject:
wat?

How is it a fail to beat..... oh fuck it, who am I talking to? My mistake Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 18:18    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
wat?

How is it a fail to beat..... oh fuck it, who am I talking to? My mistake Laughing


Srsly though their card could be like 20% faster and cheaper and it would still be considered fail because of drivers / issues with certain games / opengl.

It's not even close to that so... Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 18:28    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Yup, I remember those old demos too Very Happy Back when ATi/nVidia wanted their customers to show off their cards, rather than nVidia bullshitting their way through everything they do. I questioned their claims of Samaritan running on a single 680 back when they showed it off, I question it even today Laughing


The Nvidia Chameleon demo was my favorite Very Happy

And also that Ruby demo that came out right when Radeon X850 XT Platinum Edition was out Drooling



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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 18:48    Post subject:
russ80 wrote:
Srsly though their card could be like 20% faster and cheaper and it would still be considered fail because of drivers / issues with certain games / opengl.

It's not even close to that so... Very Happy


Reaction Nice logic fail there russ80 #rekt
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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 18:54    Post subject:
russ80 wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
wat?

How is it a fail to beat..... oh fuck it, who am I talking to? My mistake Laughing


Srsly though their card could be like 20% faster and cheaper and it would still be considered fail because of drivers / issues with certain games / opengl.

It's not even close to that so... Very Happy
Every time I see a post from you I feel the urge to go and wash my eyes... You better get payed to post such bullshit.


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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 19:02    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
russ80 wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
wat?

How is it a fail to beat..... oh fuck it, who am I talking to? My mistake Laughing


Srsly though their card could be like 20% faster and cheaper and it would still be considered fail because of drivers / issues with certain games / opengl.

It's not even close to that so... Very Happy
Every time I see a post from you I feel the urge to go and wash my eyes... You better get payed to post such bullshit.


Do you need to wash your eyes because you gazed at his magnificent intelligence? Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 19:12    Post subject:
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russ80 wrote:
Every time I see a post from you I feel the urge to go and wash my eyes... You better get payed to post such bullshit.

Noone would blame you if you abused your power Cool Face
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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 19:25    Post subject:
Market share > opinions.


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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 19:30    Post subject:
russ80 wrote:
Market share > opinions.


Completely irrelevant to your initial quote though.


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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 19:33    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
russ80 wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
wat?

How is it a fail to beat..... oh fuck it, who am I talking to? My mistake Laughing


Srsly though their card could be like 20% faster and cheaper and it would still be considered fail because of drivers / issues with certain games / opengl.

It's not even close to that so... Very Happy
Every time I see a post from you I feel the urge to go and wash my eyes... You better get payed to post such bullshit.


Feel free to wash the forum any time you wish Cool Face
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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 21:41    Post subject:
I'm still trying to figure out what the fuck russ means with "opengl". I mean the other 2 bits are both typical "lol i have never owned amd and dont even know what ati means but it sucks" things, but OpenGL? I wonder if he means to say that AMD supports twice as many extensions, particularly the ones that make up 80% of the optional features in DX11 (and now mandatory in DX12) Confused


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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 21:57    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out what the fuck russ means with "opengl". I mean the other 2 bits are both typical "lol i have never owned amd and dont even know what ati means but it sucks" things, but OpenGL? I wonder if he means to say that AMD supports twice as many extensions, particularly the ones that make up 80% of the optional features in DX11 (and now mandatory in DX12) Confused


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Rage performance says hi Very Happy

Also thought we covered the part where i did own AMD cards Sad

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http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_980_ti_g1_gaming_soc_review,21.html

holy shit Shocked


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Will wait til pascal to replace my crappy 970 tho, don't even have time to play nowadays. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 22:03    Post subject:
Why would you wait for me?! Confused


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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 22:05    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
Why would you wait for me?! Confused


Cause you'll be the best video card to ever come out ofc.
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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 22:09    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out what the fuck russ means with "opengl". I mean the other 2 bits are both typical "lol i have never owned amd and dont even know what ati means but it sucks" things, but OpenGL? I wonder if he means to say that AMD supports twice as many extensions, particularly the ones that make up 80% of the optional features in DX11 (and now mandatory in DX12) Confused


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I don't know the technical details but AMD's OpenGL support has been pretty bad in my own experience with it which admittedly isn't much, anyway they might support a lot of the actual OpenGL features / extensions but driver wise it seems pretty "hacky" to me or at least the pre-OpenGL4 support is, trying to modify Doom 3 for example breaks the display driver entirely because of some strange profile hack they've done for it and framerate wise most IDTech5 games have been pretty poor although part of that issue is probably with the actual game or game engine.
(Rage was playable but not much more and Evil Within uses D3D11+OpenGL in a weird hybrid - Japanese PC development, ho! - so it has worked fairly well - sort-of - besides the poor performance but that's a developer issue, Wolfenstein and Wolfenstein Old Blood are still completely unplayable here due to severe memory leak problems and other stability issues, can manage to keep it stable for about an hour at most if I run at the lowest possible settings.)

EDIT: I did just install a modified Windows 10 driver so I'll see if that hasn't managed to perhaps fix some of the problems with Wolfenstein, finally updated the core driver version number of the 2D, 3D, OGL and Mantle components from I think the previous bump was back with 14.12 / Omega phase 1 Razz
(Various fixes since then but the version number on these components have remained the same while focus has been entirely on Windows 10 and getting a driver ready for WHQL in time for it's release - which I think is a good idea overall. - but on other OS's the current drivers haven't done much besides smaller bug fixes and profile enhancements for Crossfire in a few games and some of them still have known issues.)

I don't dislike AMD but they are falling behind Nvidia a bit but we'll see what the 300 series can do and more importantly the Fury GPU's, not really planning to upgrade at the moment though until the 20nm or whatever GPU's come out and by then - Q2 or so 2016 I'm hoping. - hopefully I can do a full PC upgrade. Very Happy

Nothing against Nvidia either, mostly been using AMD for their lower prices in comparison while still staying competitive with Nvidia's GPU's though Nvidia is getting pretty aggressive with their GameWorks program but AMD also has a few titles supported and maybe DirectX 12 can help too.
(I'm pretty sure it's been the same for Nvidia though in several of the AMD supported games, delayed SLI support and driver optimizations although I don't think AMD has anything similar to the GameWorks SDK effects since TressFx is a bit more open or so they claim.)


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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jun 2015 22:13    Post subject:
rgb#000 wrote:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_980_ti_g1_gaming_soc_review,21.html

holy shit Shocked


Zotac AMP! Extreme has bigger "stock" clocks than that Gigabyte as overclocked. Razz


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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2015 01:07    Post subject:
Quick Q: i bought a 970 recently, how important really is the nvidia lie with regards to memory if I'm gaming at 1920x1200?

Is high video card memory more important the higher resolution I'm at or is it unrelated?

Thanks for any info esteemed Wizards. Going to stck with the card cuz budget, but I'm curious.
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