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madness




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 07:53    Post subject:
Already hating that green HUD Laughing Hopefully they allow us to change it..
Otherwise looks nice Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 08:00    Post subject:
What's with that "X - Execute Critical"?
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Rifleman




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 08:49    Post subject:
Still same stupid turns/real time..zzzz...
Another fallout-wanna-be game to pass I guess.
No real turns, no buy for me. Not going even to try isodemo.


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madness




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 08:56    Post subject:
IamAWESOME wrote:





Combat still looks lame. Small FOV, huge weapons, and the same crappy blur effect when getting hit as in FO3


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 08:57    Post subject:
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VonMisk




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 09:04    Post subject:
madness wrote:
IamAWESOME wrote:





Combat still looks lame. Small FOV, huge weapons, and the same crappy blur effect when getting hit as in FO3

I would look past it if the story and the world was good (like New Vegas for me) but it's unknown right now.


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 09:09    Post subject:
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 09:20    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
IamAWESOME wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWuwLSFmATI

So Much Win So Much Win


Looks fucking incredible.

Then again, TW3 was good so everything else must be shit lol wut



By comparison? No doubt Laughing

By itself? Far from looking as shit
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 09:30    Post subject:
Paid mods incoming Cool Face Laughing Devil Troll Reaction


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 09:48    Post subject:
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zibztrollingme




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 09:51    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Absolutely amazing, completely blew away. I can't wait for November Very Happy


Completely dynamic dialogue.

Yeah right. This is Bethesda and their infamous "OMG ZOING RADIANT AI IS BEST AI EVER BUILT" and it ended up a pile of turd.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 09:58    Post subject:
Frap Frap Guy


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VonMisk




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 10:05    Post subject:
I like that they finally managed to have pretty faces and not mr potato character creation system.


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4treyu




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 10:05    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:


4treyu wrote:
By comparison? No doubt Laughing


By comparison to an early prerelease trailer? Early trailers are comparable all of a sudden to you? Laughing


So, you are truly expecting Bethesda to improve the quality of their games like 5 fold since Fallout 3/Skyrim?

youtube.com/watch?v=LbaBkDlo1e4&t=9s
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vurt




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 10:08    Post subject:
zibztrollingme wrote:

Yeah right. This is Bethesda and their infamous "OMG ZOING RADIANT AI IS BEST AI EVER BUILT" and it ended up a pile of turd.


A pile of turd in comparison to exactly what? I much rather have their radiant NPC AI than the non-existant AI that 99% of all RPG's have, where NPC's are standing in one place day and night.

Even in comparison to Witcher 3 the NPC AI from Oblivion is far superior, at least from what i've seen.


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riptide77




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 10:09    Post subject:
Don' t recall them talking about mods. Wonder if some of the journalists will bother to ask them about them. Surprised Todd Howard didn't say anything about them since they're what makes their games so long-lived.


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AKofC




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 10:11    Post subject:
my only beef right now is the lighting. i can see myself getting a headache in conversations where the guy's face is just shadows.


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4treyu




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 10:18    Post subject:
Actually the lighting is one of few things (if not the only) that saves the technical aspect of the game. I won't mind as long as the gameplay is as feature rich as showed in last night's presentation.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 10:44    Post subject:
riptide77 wrote:
Don' t recall them talking about mods. Wonder if some of the journalists will bother to ask them about them. Surprised Todd Howard didn't say anything about them since they're what makes their games so long-lived.


Why have a new platform (bethesda.net) built around the few games they have that aren't even online?

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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 10:51    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
zibztrollingme wrote:

Yeah right. This is Bethesda and their infamous "OMG ZOING RADIANT AI IS BEST AI EVER BUILT" and it ended up a pile of turd.


A pile of turd in comparison to exactly what? I much rather have their radiant NPC AI than the non-existant AI that 99% of all RPG's have, where NPC's are standing in one place day and night.

Even in comparison to Witcher 3 the NPC AI from Oblivion is far superior, at least from what i've seen.


Gothic.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 10:53    Post subject:
The hype just went through the roof after that video
So Much Win


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Tankistas




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 10:58    Post subject:
While overall the game looks good enough the character animations seem to be as bad as in any Bethesda game. After so many years one would think they at least make the attempt to improve...

But the biggest concern gameplay-wise is that there is some strong evidence that they chose to ditch the skill system entirely, going instead for XP+perk trees.. Imageboards are going mental over this. Some screenshots from previews:
1. Note that there is no "SKILLS" tab in stats, just SPECIAL for attributes and PERKS.


2. Crafting screens have requirements marked as "rank" instead of skill values. Furthermore, no where is there any mention of skill progression.


I understand that this is not 100% conclusive, but this points to a further streamlining of RPG elements, below even what Skyrim had. If this is indeed the way it seems then we can expect FarCry3 with VATS...

So..I am a bit pessimistic...
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 11:01    Post subject:
Eh. FO4 left me lukewarm. There are some nice ideas, the graphics are nice and all, but there is so much shit that seems tacked on....

Like the base building. Sure, it might be fun one or two times, and I'm sure modders or creative people will create truly amazing structures, but how many of you build a house in Hearthfire? And if you did, did you really spend hours manipulating objects just to make it your dream house?

Same with gun upgrades and armor crafting. Sure, you'll make a rocket launcher that uses toasters as ammo. But how many times are you really going to go to the crafting table to add a scope to a weapon? Or how many times are you going to make an armor...

Instead of focusing on showing what's important in an RPG game (like dialogues, how AI populates the world, quests etc.) they showed tacked-on gimmicks (IMOO) that only the most insane of the fans will actually care about after trying the new mechanics once or twice.

Also the UI sucks balls, it's amazing how they could make your stats and inventory even clunkier and less slick than in Skyrim.

Fallout Shelter left a better impression on me than Fallout 4.

I'll probably play it, but if it's as bland as FO3 was (IMOOOO), than I don't think I'll even bother finishing it.
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Rifleman




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 11:14    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
The hype just went through the roof after that video
So Much Win

Nope. Real? I don't know really why... I think I will go play Underrail again.


harballaz wrote:
Hey dont be so hard the little console eunuchs, they need time to aim their lil vibratin thumbstick.
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vurt




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 11:17    Post subject:
zibztrollingme wrote:

Gothic.


So it's a "turd" since 1 game does it better (in your opinion)? Wow! I'd say Gothic's AI is not as advanced as the one for the later TES or FO's, especially when you start adding mods that takes advantage of it, but even vanilla often does a better job and with more reactions than what Gothic has.

Is it the same for graphics and gameplay? Let's say a game is ever so slightly worse then the best game ever created, in your opinion that game would be described as a "turd"? Laughing
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 11:22    Post subject:
You all just haters,
please leave,
thanks and bye


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EternalBlueScreen




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 11:33    Post subject:
Gonna be guud. Me Gusta
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 11:33    Post subject:
For the peeps who missed it:


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EternalBlueScreen




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 11:35    Post subject:
Fallout 4 is getting a real-life Pip Boy, which will be available in the game's $120 special edition...


I want one. You can use it to carry your smartphone apparently.
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Waargh




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2015 11:38    Post subject:
EternalBlueScreen wrote:
I want one. You can use it to carry your smartphone apparently.


... and you really plan to wear that outside..? Rolling Eyes

this pic from Epic thread comes to mind:



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