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JackQ
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 Posted: Sat, 20th Jun 2015 23:21 Post subject: |
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Been playing this over a year still havent finished it. Managing to push myself through it due to my love of the genre. But they are really inept from a technical standpoint - been using unity for years and their use of it is the equivalent of a high school kid making a game.
There are some decent story and gameplay idea but they're fairly derivative. Its sad that is what we have to be impressed nowadays.
In short im somewhat enjoing the game but its hard for me tofully imerse myself when I see I could have programmed that whole game myself significantly better. And my srtist friend agrees he could have done models and animations betteras well. They really need some talent for their next game.
But my standpoint is pretty specific and dont expect many to see in the same light.
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| Posted: Sun, 21st Jun 2015 02:12 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 21st Jun 2015 02:22 Post subject: |
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nah, I mean Marko 
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| Posted: Sun, 21st Jun 2015 03:34 Post subject: |
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| BearishSun wrote: | | dodger2020 wrote: | | BearishSun wrote: | Been playing this over a year still havent finished it. Managing to push myself through it due to my love of the genre. But they are really inept from a technical standpoint - been using unity for years and their use of it is the equivalent of a high school kid making a game.
There are some decent story and gameplay idea but they're fairly derivative. Its sad that is what we have to be impressed nowadays.
In short im somewhat enjoing the game but its hard for me tofully imerse myself when I see I could have programmed that whole game myself significantly better. And my srtist friend agrees he could have done models and animations betteras well. They really need some talent for their next game.
But my standpoint is pretty specific and dont expect many to see in the same light. |
The full game has only been out nine months. For what they made this game with I thought it was pretty good. I think what hurt them was not testing the whole game with a wide range of folks before release. You can definitely tell which areas had more testing done.
And yeah, pretty much everyone who says, "Oh I could've done better" mysteriously has nothing to show for their amazaball talents.  |
https://github.com/BearishSun/BansheeEngine
This is my "nothing". And that's the old version too, newest version is double the size and features (releasing later this year). What do you have to back up your expertise? |
Not sure where I claimed to have any expertise. Don't need it to be a critic anyway. However, you DO need it if you're going to pull the "Ahhh, I could have done better." So, again, where is the better? There are lots of game engines out there. There are also a lot that don't ever get used for anything.
edit: Not saying anything about the quality of your engine. I'm sure it's great. Just commenting specifically on the comment.
| Quote: | And my srtist friend agrees he could have done models and animations betteras well. They really need some talent for their next game.
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edit2: Ahh, hell, never mind. fuck that. I take that back. I just saw your comment about how you could do it all better. So, again where is better?? Because you wrote your own engine? That's a significant accomplishment, sure. Much more than I ever managed to learn. But surely if what you say is true "...when I see I could have programmed that whole game myself significantly better..." then you have something to back that up?
Is WL2 perfect? Nope. Far from it. Had and has a bunch of bugs. And performance wise unity has been known to have a few shitty performers. I didn't have any problems with WL2 but I know a bunch here did. But unless you've got something concrete to back up what you said, I call bullshit.
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| Posted: Sun, 21st Jun 2015 04:05 Post subject: |
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Of course you need it if you're going to call out my comment about their technical expertise. You don't need it for a subjective opinion but this is not it.
And you can call bullshit all you want. I'm telling you I can write a significatly better game (from a purely technical standpoint) in my sleep, and you don't have to believe it. My engine is the best proof I have of my tehnical expertise and that statement. You, however have nothing to back up yours.
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| Posted: Sun, 21st Jun 2015 04:29 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2015 15:37 Post subject: |
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Last edited by Interinactive on Tue, 5th Oct 2021 00:40; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2015 15:39 Post subject: |
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2015 15:45 Post subject: |
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VonMisk
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2015 15:54 Post subject: |
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August or September.
PC maybe sooner but who knows. Fargo said they would finish it in July and than need to certify with Microshit and Phoney.
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2015 18:07 Post subject: |
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Nice visual improvements 
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Jun 2015 00:04 Post subject: |
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Can't wait for my fucking armor to fucking show on my fucking character in a fucking 2015 isometric fucking RPG.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Jun 2015 00:13 Post subject: |
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Not as good as Superfucker69
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Jun 2015 00:19 Post subject: |
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Some nice improvements. That red glowing effect in that crater is new, and makes sense since  Spoiler: | it is the result of an entire settlement getting recently nuked. |
It also looks like they've fixed some of the areas that shipped with low res textures.
One of the biggest issues I hope they fix is the shitload of locked chests whose skill checks kept rising throughout the game with no justification. For instance late in the game you might see a chest that needs 10 lockpicking, and all you get from it is a couple bullets. Also the fact that way too many chests were booby trapped; it felt like a ham-fisted attempt at making Demolitions a useful skill.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Jun 2015 00:25 Post subject: |
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| Bob Barnsen wrote: | | Not as good as Superfucker69 |
But I hope they don't dick fuck it up, as the fuckin dick shit will be all fucked in the ass, and then we will all be dick fucking.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Jun 2015 00:29 Post subject: |
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If the other gameplay aspects will receive the same treatment as the graphics, it will be almost like playing a new game. Can't wait for the second round, I regret nothing!
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Jun 2015 00:31 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Jun 2015 00:33 Post subject: |
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| ixigia wrote: | | Can't wait for the first round |
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Jun 2015 01:29 Post subject: |
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So this will include actual balancing this time around yeah? It's why I never finished it besides the bugs in the 2nd area.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Jun 2015 20:20 Post subject: |
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I will replay this if power armors actually work. When I played they were a death trap. Put a suit on = death versus anything.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Jun 2015 20:33 Post subject: |
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| EternalBlueScreen wrote: | | I will replay this if power armors actually work. When I played they were a death trap. Put a suit on = death versus anything. |
It was more that late game 70% of enemies were armed with energy weapons. If it was just 1 or 2 enemies in each group it would have remained quite balanced with their chosen armour system. |
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, I tip my hat to you dear sir 
Yeah i "borrowed" it off the tv show, thought it be over by the time I release the final version 
