Are there any real world examples where word trigger re-traumatized someone or are these people just making this shit up?
Oh I'm sure some bat-shit crazy people on a hair trigger (CONTENT WARNING! ) might get upset from that stuff but honestly, I think in 99.9999% of all cases, even people who are traumatized, won't get upset about written text. I think movies and TV series are WAY more likely to affect people and unless you want huge flashing warnings occurring through half the stuff you see on TV, it's just something you got to live with.
Trigger warnings, to me, always felt like a show of power, a way to stroke your ego in a "yeah, I can be even MORE sensitive than you fuckers, bow before me" way. That's how it comes across to me - a bunch of losers who have nothing else to do in life than to try and one-up each-other in how ridiculously far they can take this crap
Facebook may be celebrating gay rights around the world today by encouraging its users to paint their profile pics with a rainbow-themed filter, but the firm will be less proud about its latest diversity report.
That's because the company's workforce remains overwhelmingly male and white.
Facebook has released its latest "diversity report", which revealed that little had changed since the free content ad network first made figures about the gender and race make-up of its staff public in June 2014.
The Mark Zuckerberg-run company, which globally has more than 10,000 employees on its books, said that 68 per cent of its worldwide workforce was male.
It added that even fewer women were employed in the tech division of its biz – where just 16 per cent of its IT workers are female.
I couldn't resist but post a comment cos this whole thing is 100% fucked up.
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Who gives a fuck.
I'm so sick of reading about why quad-dyke transgender homeopathic paraplegics are not in this or that job.
I'm White, male and British. Therefore, by the way the precious snowflakes of the SJW brigade harp on, I should be King.
It just doesn't work like that. Get a fucking grip. If someone wants to hire mostly men who happen to be white and straight, let them - if you don't like it, go find a job elsewhere - it has fuck all to do with you, or anyone else who hires who.
I suppose there should be exceptions to that rule, but I imagine that 'Facebook' is not exactly going to be a 'better place' if rainbow farting unicorns start working there.
I'm sorry, but this SJW crap is just going too far. If you're in a minority, you're in a minority. Deal with it, just don't try and persecute those who are NOT in a minority for being, you know, not a minority.
Downvote me all you want, I'm just utterly sick of reading about crap like 'too many whites', 'not enough transgender snowflakes', and other stuff that makes out minority groups are getting a raw deal, just because they can't get that job they wanted. Hell, maybe it's because, you know, you're not very good?
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said that 68 per cent of its worldwide workforce was male.
So? Are we to set a fucking arbitrary ratio now just to appease the unique snowflakes? It's shit like this that gives feminism a bad name and that's seriously messed up because feminism, true feminism and not third wave man hatred, benefits all and fights for equality.. not dominance. We don't need that kind of bullshit, we don't. Equal rights does not mean absolutely flawless division, it doesn't mean every company should be 50% women and 50% men, the sooner these perpetually offended whiners get that through their thick skulls, the better.
Yeah, Facebook should hire more token women to bring it closer to 50/50. Otherwise, no PC brownie points for you
Let's look at their racial distribution, if it's not at least 20% hispainic, 20% blacks, 20% asians and 20% native indian americans I will throw paint on their CEO, the racist scum.
CD-Action, the biggest Polish gaming magazine, wrote on the Witcher 3 racism drama:
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Title: Geralt, the black gay from Tokyo
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Enlightened Americans! Apostles of tolerance, the advocates of minorities! You, who hold the reigns on the ride to progress, you, who lead the battle against unfathomable beasts more terrible than the biblical Leviathan, their names being: Racism, sexism, misogyny and homophobia! Please, allow me to at least love a white woman.
So we are clear - propagating homophobia, the notion that women are worse than men, the belief that black people steal bikes, the view that all citizens of Mother Russia drink en masse spiritus with polar bears, are views that I perceive as completely idiotic. I further agree that opposition to such banal views is necessary. However this should be a thought-out battle, where computer games should not necessarily be the vessel in defending minorities.
Polygon, the leaders in unintentional entertainment, have already fallen into infamy due to their criticism of the "sexist" Bayonetta 2, their dissatisfaction with the low number of dark-skinned and Latino Pro players in SC 2 and LoL tournaments and the disapproval that Ciri in the Witcher 3 has not completely buttoned up her blouse. The true storms of the debate arrived when Polygon accused the Witcher 3 of Racism. Further (often polemic) reaction to the "controversy" has been led by the mainstream media, such as the american Forbes, and even the polish naTemat or Biztok.
"Even Elves, have the opportunity to exist, people of different color however, do not, (...) we are not treated like human beings" says Tauriq Moosa, a journalist of African decent, who further adds, "the white industry tells the story of white people for a white audience". Even though "The Witcher" is set in Slavic mythology and the setting is reminiscent of medieval Poland (who were still awaiting colonialism), the verse of Moosa's text conveys a messianic message, that characters in game should be mutli-cultural/racial, even if it were to break the immersion of the experienced virtual world.
I have an issue with this, I don't want artists to be strong-armed into changing their original vision, simply for being the target of the politically correct media. My second problem lays in the fact, that the glorified by the west, studio "Bioware", adept at "understanding the evolving social perceptions", are the biggest offenders when it comes to discrimination. What is the point of having Steve Cortez in Mass Effect 3, as well as having Dorian in DA: I? Both are token gay characters, ripped out of some crude joke, putting great emphasis on the fact that they are gay. A significantly more healthy approach to the subject was achieved by Overhaul studios, responsible for the re-releases of the Baldur's Gate series, creating a homosexual half-orc Dorn II-Khan, who could chew nails (OP's input: that is the literal translation, it essentially means the Half-orc is a badass). The witcher also had a more mature approach, arriving at the "White Orchard of Mysław" , we meet a character whose sole trait is not defined by his sexual orientation, but rather by being a talented hunter. Information about his orientation is a brief suprise, and is only a small part of the whole quest. Obsession with political correctness can lead to complete absurdism in the form of DA: 2, where every character is bisexual.
Let's return to the DA: Inquisition for a moment. It is true that the city of Val Royeaux is inhabited by many dark-skinned individuals all speaking with french accents. How this agglomeration only serves to uphold the stereotype of a frenchmen/women, who is egocentric and a pretentious aristocrat. An individual who drinks tea whilst raising his/her pinky. Bioware creates worlds with interesting demographics, however they are unable to rid themselves from the shackles of stereotyping. Both sagas (Sapkowski's book series and the trilogy of CD PROJEKT games), deal with the issues of racism with greater finesse. Even though there are no dark-skinned or latinos, there are elves and dwarves. The xenophobic nature of humans is apparent, whilst being simultaneously reviled by Geralt and other characters, who are not rural simpletons.
I am tired of the dictates of political correctness and the necessity to look at the world through a western perspective. I am tired to hear the calls of people demanding, that an artist HAS TO include in his game members of the LGBT community, dark-skinned individuals, asians and Jews and a woman with covered legs, otherwise she will magically transform into a sexualized object. In fact it would be best if they included a female-male parity in the cast. I simply have too much of that when I leave my monitor. Curious statements such as Miss France is too white and "unrepresentative of the ethnic diversity in the country", or that "Ida" (Polish film that got an Oscar) is anti-Polish, or even that everyone should defend and stand by the coarse Charlie Hebdo. Let's leave those discussions beyond our Steam libraries and let's leave the part of conveying messages to the creators.
I guess its time to write the president a letter about the actions of her personnel. Someone who spouts hate-speech shouldn't be in a teaching position.
Kiwi parliament passes 'Harmful digital communications bill' outlawing online nasties.
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New Zealand has become the latest country to think bad online manners are amenable to legislation.
The country last night passed a controversial bill, the Harmful Digital Communications Bill, in the hope of stemming “cyber-bullying”.
The bill creates a regime under which digital communications causing “serious emotional distress” are subject to an escalating regime that starts as “negotiation, mediation or persuasion” but reaches up to creating the offences of not complying with an order, and “causing harm by posting digital communication”.
The most serious offenders would face two years in jail or a maximum fine of NZ$50,000 (US$33,900).
The bill covers posts that are racist, sexist, or show religious intolerance, along with hassling people over disability or sexual orientation.
There's also a new offence of incitement to suicide (three years' jail).
The regime will be enforced by a yet-to-be-established agency that will make contact with publishers and social media platforms, and if it can't resolve a complaint, the agency will be able to escalate it to the district court.
There's a safe harbour provision for Web sites, and here's where the free speech arises. A platform like Facebook or Twitter (if they bothered) can opt into the safe harbour – but only if they agree to remove allegedly offending material either on-demand or within the bill's 48-hour grace period.
New Zealand's National Business Review notes complaints that it could criminalise children over the age of 14.
InternetNZ told the outlet that the bill should be kept under review: “the risk is of unintended consequences, or chosen balances of rights not working out in practice.”
I'm going to derail this thread a bit and go away from "Women are sexist pigs" to "guys are sexist pigs".
Today I was driving and at the radio there was a morning show and a sports reporter was invited. The guy went into several news stories, one of them was about the women world cup and how USA defeated Germany. This was all given in a serious tone and he went into a bit of detail of how the game played out.
To which the Radio DJ goes: But the important question is, at the end, did they get naked?
To which the Radio DJ goes: But the important question is, at the end, did they get naked?
Isn't he just comparing it to the men trading shirts which, if you weren't aware of this, is the favorite part for women watching the match ? Doesn't seem sexist rather than tongue in cheek. If he joked about them being shit at it, etc. it would be a lot more sexist for real.
Also, I found this interesting Youtube vid where the media actually takes the side of the man and is actually being honest! Imagine that!
Bunch of fucking idiots. Saying the word 'trigger' isn't a fucking trigger for PTSD. Hearing a car run over a manhole that makes a loud bang, going near a firing range and hearing certain gunshots, etc.. Those are fucking triggers.
A friend of my father is a psychologist and this weekend I asked him about triggers and he said something interesting which I suspected:
Triggers are not about the actual deed but about indirect elements linked to it. People with PTSD can handle hearing about the war - reading, talking, etc. is rarely a problem. It's sounds and smells that trigger people for real and also certain sudden memories that sneak up on them due to indirect links to what happened. For example, say a girl got abused as a kid - she may see a baby with a teddy bear similar to the one she was given by her father "to keep quiet" and THAT could upset her.
Basically, he laughed at the trigger stuff, said that traumatized people can get triggered by anything and, oddly enough, almost least of all by text or just speech. Shows these feminists are clueless ...
its just sickening how they belittle the real life problems of people with actual ptsd due to war trauma or rape by using the terms for their shitty little agenda. it literally makes me sick in my stomach
A friend of my father is a psychologist and this weekend I asked him about triggers and he said something interesting which I suspected:
Triggers are not about the actual deed but about indirect elements linked to it. People with PTSD can handle hearing about the war - reading, talking, etc. is rarely a problem. It's sounds and smells that trigger people for real and also certain sudden memories that sneak up on them due to indirect links to what happened. For example, say a girl got abused as a kid - she may see a baby with a teddy bear similar to the one she was given by her father "to keep quiet" and THAT could upset her.
Basically, he laughed at the trigger stuff, said that traumatized people can get triggered by anything and, oddly enough, almost least of all by text or just speech. Shows these feminists are clueless ...
Exactly, reading about / talking about the things that cause your PTSD triggers ISN'T A FUCKING TRIGGER! Your brain DOES NOT relate the conscious act of thinking about the horrible events as if it were the event itself. It is when you hear/smell something that your brain has been wired to put your body into anxiety/defensive mode that is PTSD.
And these people have no fucking idea what PTSD is.
And these people have no fucking idea what PTSD is.
My theory is they don't care. It's all about them, about appearing to be better than others, about being "above" others by "caring for people". It's like people going to volunteer at a soup kitchen so they can brag about it on Facebook.
I read an article a while back that, with Facebook becoming such a bragging ground, soup kitchens have had to turn people away because so many people were volunteering just so they could post about it on Facebook. Often these volunteers would be unreliable, poor at their job and only come once or twice before never again. It's disgusting.
Yet this is the modern trend, isn't it? Pretend you're all special and caring while you actually look down on everyone else. There's a reason feminists fight among themselves so often ... because "my feminism is better than yours"
My theory is they don't care. It's all about them, about appearing to be better than others, about being "above" others by "caring for people". It's like people going to volunteer at a soup kitchen so they can brag about it on Facebook.
Yet this is the modern trend, isn't it? Pretend you're all special and caring while you actually look down on everyone else.
Yes a modern trend called self-branding.
A mix of opportunism and self-importance with a healthy dose of confirmation bias.
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“Advertisements for Myself”
It’s a world that is defined by a “race” among social media users to build the most ubiquitous personal brands.
Online narcissism is therefore, as Keith Campbell, the coauthor of the bestselling The Narcissism Epidemic, explains, a “logical outgrowth of DIY capitalism - in which we all have our own “branding business” and we are our “own agent” and “marketing department”.
its just sickening how they belittle the real life problems of people with actual ptsd due to war trauma or rape by using the terms for their shitty little agenda. it literally makes me sick in my stomach
That is what bugs me the most about these kids.
They belittle everything by trivial shit: Rape isn't the word it used to be, same for: Abuse, PTSD, Depression, Equality,...
Bet they are absolute clueless how they hurt real victims with it.
I tried to read it, I really did, but Derpilo constantly kept making it about GamerGate, all these jabs, all these accusations, the pressure to force Vavra to say "I was wrong", it was sickening to read.
It was civil enough, and that is slightly more than I expected, but the way the article was written makes me think even less of Totilo than before. And I did not think it was possible.
The slimyness and condescension is practically dripping from the page. Like here:
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He came off as playing to Twitter fans, as someone who vilified people he disliked.
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Vávra’s views on a lot of this were partially shaped by criticisms of Kingdom Come for its lack of black characters.<..>Vávra felt he was being called a racist and that, based on his research of his country’s history, he was in the right.
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When we spoke over beers, I noticed a pattern. Anita Sarkeesian’s name came up, and he dismissed her as a “totalitarian,” said her research was poor and that she was making demands. When the game developer Zoe Quinn’s name came up—recall she’s the developer whose ex-boyfriend wrote a post shredding her reputation that somehow kicked a lot of this GamerGate stuff off, and, yes, Quinn briefly dated one of our reporters—he snarked about how her game Depression Quest was just a web page and got attention because it was about depression. I sort of get his issues with Sarkeesian, though I feel her influence is exaggerated. Quinn seemed like a weird fixation, a vestige of Twitter fuming that seemed less relevant when said out loud. The pattern, though, was that people might be paying attention to them and their ideas.
Time and again, I sensed, he was annoyed about who was listening to whom, about who got attention, about whose voices were heard, about who was making an impact on games and games culture. That was the pattern.
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One of his colleagues approached me as I was leaving. “He’s a bit of a badboy,” they told me. Yeah, I said. I got that.
Throughout the whole interview he peppered these sorts of indirect quips in order to paint a narrative of Vavra being a person antagonizing people he dislikes because they are being listened to instead of him. All done in an indirect, mean girls type of way.
All the anecdotes Totilo seemingly selectively chose to share were set to fall in line with this psychological portrait, pulled straight out of the writers ass. Yet this is shit SJWs lap right up, because it allows them to delude themselves that they got the person all figured out , that they are superior. Last but not least, that since they understand what flaws make the person be "wrong", they can skip the pesky step of actually debating his points or ideas - which too often they are factually or even intellectually incapable of. All the while shrouding this condescension behind vain gestures of being the bigger person (like mentioning how toilo introduced Vavra to two of his fans)
At least I was unable to gleam any other intent form this piece...Totilo did not highlight the game or Vavra's opinions with any consistency or rigor. Apparently outlining his inner monologues in cringe inducing detail would give the reader more insight?
To which the Radio DJ goes: But the important question is, at the end, did they get naked?
Isn't he just comparing it to the men trading shirts which, if you weren't aware of this, is the favorite part for women watching the match ? Doesn't seem sexist rather than tongue in cheek. If he joked about them being shit at it, etc. it would be a lot more sexist for real.
Also, I found this interesting Youtube vid where the media actually takes the side of the man and is actually being honest! Imagine that!
Nobody in football says that the players get naked in the end, they trade shirts or take their shirts off. Yet you jump in to some guys defense, even though you haven't even heard the tone he said it in. And calling the shirt exchange the part that women like the most about watching a football game is in itself nothing but sexist bullshit. Plenty of women like the sport and the competition.
To which the Radio DJ goes: But the important question is, at the end, did they get naked?
Isn't he just comparing it to the men trading shirts which, if you weren't aware of this, is the favorite part for women watching the match ? Doesn't seem sexist rather than tongue in cheek. If he joked about them being shit at it, etc. it would be a lot more sexist for real.
Obviously it's hard to explain the tone of the guy but it was very obvious the guy just didn't give a shit about the women's world cup and the US achievement in the sport.
The sports reporter spoke pretty seriously for about 2 minutes, giving a series news and he had a bit of pride in him about the fact that the US made it to the final and it's something to cheer about. And then immediately the DJ's ONLY words was that statement, said in a very "yeah whatever" tone.
But either way it's just wrong and completely belittling an achievement. I doubt the guy would have said the same comment if the men US team got into the world cup final.
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) might get upset from that stuff but honestly, I think in 99.9999% of all cases, even people who are traumatized, won't get upset about written text. I think movies and TV series are WAY more likely to affect people and unless you want huge flashing warnings occurring through half the stuff you see on TV, it's just something you got to live with.
