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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Jul 2015 20:20    Post subject:
I find that reading the books puts almost all the important characters in a different light, and also fills in lots of gaps in the game storyline (how you broke Dijkstra's ankle, for example, or how and why the Lodge of sorceresses was formed).
I almost finished the sixth book and i find that Triss, Geralt and Ciri in particular are widely different from the game version. Geralt strays completely from the neutral path - and the witcher job altogether - quite fast, and gets entangled in all kinds of shit that has nothing to do with his profession; Triss is a weak, obedient sorceress, unable to make a decision on her own, usually under Eilhart's thumb; Ciri is far from being an innocent young woman - at that age she already was a bandit and a cold-blooded murderer (and practiced long-term lesbomancy with a fellow bandit Twisted Evil ).
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Jul 2015 20:28    Post subject:
Great info. In all Witcher games I always had a feeling that they went after books too much and forgot to explain certain things, so it's weird hearing that in fact they simply didn't do enough explaining, and went even further and changed characters.
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Jul 2015 22:34    Post subject:
I already abandoned this game for a simple reason, when you are high level everything is easy and boring. In Borderlands you can just start again with the same character and everything is a challenge again, it's sad you can't do that in Witcher 3.


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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Jul 2015 23:23    Post subject:
i found borederblands to be one of the blandest and most boring rpgs i ever played, and a joke compared to witcher 3.
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Jul 2015 23:33    Post subject:
who even compares borderlands to witcher? Neutral


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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Jul 2015 23:34    Post subject:
The_Zeel wrote:
i found borederblands to be one of the blandest and most boring rpgs i ever played, and a joke compared to witcher 3.


i had a really horrible experience with borderlands as well.. it was one of those games where it felt like i was playing a mediocre MMO, in singleplayer.. Can't wait to play TW3 again.
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 00:37    Post subject:
Drowning_witch wrote:
who even compares borderlands to witcher? Neutral

Nobody. Just an example of 2nd playthrough I want for the Witcher, not my intention to offend fanboys. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 00:44    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
The_Zeel wrote:
i found borederblands to be one of the blandest and most boring rpgs i ever played, and a joke compared to witcher 3.


i had a really horrible experience with borderlands as well.. it was one of those games where it felt like i was playing a mediocre MMO, in singleplayer.. Can't wait to play TW3 again.

For me borderlands was awesome... for the first 6 hours or so. Then it became repetitive a fk.
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 04:44    Post subject:
Bordelands I got to like level 12, wasn't enjoying any thing about the game and uninstalled.
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 09:17    Post subject:
NeHoMaR wrote:
Drowning_witch wrote:
who even compares borderlands to witcher? Neutral

Nobody. Just an example of 2nd playthrough I want for the Witcher, not my intention to offend fanboys. Laughing


I didn't even play witcher 3 yet. But comparing a random loot drop diabloish fps to a third person action rpg just makes no sense to me, especially with regards to multiple playthroughs.

Borderlands is pretty much made for that, while witcher 3 is more narrative and exploration driven, so not even sure why you'd wanna replay that in the same sense as borderlands.
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 09:49    Post subject:
CDP RED must be very busy with testing, and I'm sure this will be the best patch ever Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 10:55    Post subject:
BloodySpy wrote:
I find that reading the books puts almost all the important characters in a different light, and also fills in lots of gaps in the game storyline (how you broke Dijkstra's ankle, for example, or how and why the Lodge of sorceresses was formed).
I almost finished the sixth book and i find that Triss, Geralt and Ciri in particular are widely different from the game version. Geralt strays completely from the neutral path - and the witcher job altogether - quite fast, and gets entangled in all kinds of shit that has nothing to do with his profession; Triss is a weak, obedient sorceress, unable to make a decision on her own, usually under Eilhart's thumb; Ciri is far from being an innocent young woman - at that age she already was a bandit and a cold-blooded murderer (and practiced long-term lesbomancy with a fellow bandit Twisted Evil ).


Triss feels quite weak ingame imo. The game also does not present/treat Ciri as an innocent young woman. Still, I get your point but on the other hand is quite difficult to completely adapt the characters of a book in a videogame.


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 11:54    Post subject:
fearwhatnow wrote:
BloodySpy wrote:
I find that reading the books puts almost all the important characters in a different light, and also fills in lots of gaps in the game storyline (how you broke Dijkstra's ankle, for example, or how and why the Lodge of sorceresses was formed).
I almost finished the sixth book and i find that Triss, Geralt and Ciri in particular are widely different from the game version. Geralt strays completely from the neutral path - and the witcher job altogether - quite fast, and gets entangled in all kinds of shit that has nothing to do with his profession; Triss is a weak, obedient sorceress, unable to make a decision on her own, usually under Eilhart's thumb; Ciri is far from being an innocent young woman - at that age she already was a bandit and a cold-blooded murderer (and practiced long-term lesbomancy with a fellow bandit Twisted Evil ).


Triss feels quite weak ingame imo. The game also does not present/treat Ciri as an innocent young woman. Still, I get your point but on the other hand is quite difficult to completely adapt the characters of a book in a videogame.

Yeah, Geralt seems to have some memories about Ciri being a little girl and all, but throughout the game everyone tells him that Ciri's changed, she's a grown woman now, etc... (and i mean EVERYONE says that Laughing ). And indeed, when Geralt finds Ciri, she's stubborn, hot-headed, and kinda ruthless.
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 11:59    Post subject:
ZezoS wrote:
fearwhatnow wrote:
BloodySpy wrote:
I find that reading the books puts almost all the important characters in a different light, and also fills in lots of gaps in the game storyline (how you broke Dijkstra's ankle, for example, or how and why the Lodge of sorceresses was formed).
I almost finished the sixth book and i find that Triss, Geralt and Ciri in particular are widely different from the game version. Geralt strays completely from the neutral path - and the witcher job altogether - quite fast, and gets entangled in all kinds of shit that has nothing to do with his profession; Triss is a weak, obedient sorceress, unable to make a decision on her own, usually under Eilhart's thumb; Ciri is far from being an innocent young woman - at that age she already was a bandit and a cold-blooded murderer (and practiced long-term lesbomancy with a fellow bandit Twisted Evil ).


Triss feels quite weak ingame imo. The game also does not present/treat Ciri as an innocent young woman. Still, I get your point but on the other hand is quite difficult to completely adapt the characters of a book in a videogame.

Yeah, Geralt seems to have some memories about Ciri being a little girl and all, but throughout the game everyone tells him that Ciri's changed, she's a grown woman now, etc... (and i mean EVERYONE says that Laughing ). And indeed, when Geralt finds Ciri, she's stubborn, hot-headed, and kinda ruthless.


Yes, but also so very fucking hot, man!
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 12:02    Post subject:
I find that the game works either way; when you know the characters from the books, you view some of their dialogs and reasoning in the game in a different light.

For example, the game presents Dijkstra as a more or less good guy, but because book-Dijkstra is a lot more of a grey character, I distrusted him and tried lying to him (didn't work out that well Laughing ).
Also, because of the books, I didn't even have to think about choosing between Triss or Yen.
(Yen all the way Very Happy )


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 12:22    Post subject:
Il_Padrino wrote:
I find that the game works either way; when you know the characters from the books, you view some of their dialogs and reasoning in the game in a different light.

For example, the game presents Dijkstra as a more or less good guy, but because book-Dijkstra is a lot more of a grey character, I distrusted him and tried lying to him (didn't work out that well Laughing ).
Also, because of the books, I didn't even have to think about choosing between Triss or Yen.
(Yen all the way Very Happy )


I accept, that Geralt has history with Yen, and they are together. But I, as the guy playing Geralt, would chose Triss ten times out of ten.
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 12:57    Post subject:
Radicalus wrote:
Il_Padrino wrote:
I find that the game works either way; when you know the characters from the books, you view some of their dialogs and reasoning in the game in a different light.

For example, the game presents Dijkstra as a more or less good guy, but because book-Dijkstra is a lot more of a grey character, I distrusted him and tried lying to him (didn't work out that well Laughing ).
Also, because of the books, I didn't even have to think about choosing between Triss or Yen.
(Yen all the way Very Happy )


I accept, that Geralt has history with Yen, and they are together. But I, as the guy playing Geralt, would chose Triss ten times out of ten.


In my playthrough I rejected Triss because she felt distant, very weak and indecisive to me.


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 13:10    Post subject:
Yep, even if I hadn't read the books, I'd have picked Yen. Triss came across pretty weak and even school girly in W3.
Did the Djinn quest yesterday, and it confirmed my thoughts. Yen is so Me Gusta


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 13:13    Post subject:
Il_Padrino wrote:
Yep, even if I hadn't read the books, I'd have picked Yen. Triss came across pretty weak and even school girly in W3.
Did the Djinn quest yesterday, and it confirmed my thoughts. Yen is so Me Gusta


But Yen comes across as a Dominatrix, telling you what to do and when to do it. Then getting annoyed when she doesn't get her own way. So yeh, Triss for me Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 13:16    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
The_Zeel wrote:
i found borederblands to be one of the blandest and most boring rpgs i ever played, and a joke compared to witcher 3.


i had a really horrible experience with borderlands as well.. it was one of those games where it felt like i was playing a mediocre MMO, in singleplayer.. Can't wait to play TW3 again.


Boredomlands..

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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 13:53    Post subject:
JUST FINISHED THE GAME...

have a few little gripes about the ending, namely that i was expecting... after a massive, epic story, where so much happened... that id get a bit more than a few scenes summing up a couple of events... i wanted to know so much more... what happened with the sorceresses when emhyr gave them their freedom in the south, what happened to dandelion and gimli (hurr), and triss for that matter... letho, eskel... i was expecting almost a sentence for EVERY main character and every major action I completed in the game, given that this is the franchises last story...

i also would have LOVED to have known what ciri did with the whole white frost thing... that just seemed a little quickly glossed over...

but aside from the rather rushed-feeling ending, i must say i was very satisfied with the ending i DID get, i think everything pretty much went right for my play through far as i was concerned.


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 14:55    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
JUST FINISHED THE GAME...

have a few little gripes about the ending, namely that i was expecting... after a massive, epic story, where so much happened... that id get a bit more than a few scenes summing up a couple of events... i wanted to know so much more... what happened with the sorceresses when emhyr gave them their freedom in the south, what happened to dandelion and gimli (hurr), and triss for that matter... letho, eskel... i was expecting almost a sentence for EVERY main character and every major action I completed in the game, given that this is the franchises last story...

i also would have LOVED to have known what ciri did with the whole white frost thing... that just seemed a little quickly glossed over...

but aside from the rather rushed-feeling ending, i must say i was very satisfied with the ending i DID get, i think everything pretty much went right for my play through far as i was concerned.


I´ve put it on hold till patch 1.07.. Razz


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i would have loved to, given that i know the patch is done... but i was so close to the end, and the story was so interesting, i just couldnt stop myself Very Happy


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 15:39    Post subject:
I might restart with 1.07, i havent played for like a month now after getting to Skellige
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 17:27    Post subject:
Radicalus wrote:
ZezoS wrote:
fearwhatnow wrote:


Triss feels quite weak ingame imo. The game also does not present/treat Ciri as an innocent young woman. Still, I get your point but on the other hand is quite difficult to completely adapt the characters of a book in a videogame.

Yeah, Geralt seems to have some memories about Ciri being a little girl and all, but throughout the game everyone tells him that Ciri's changed, she's a grown woman now, etc... (and i mean EVERYONE says that Laughing ). And indeed, when Geralt finds Ciri, she's stubborn, hot-headed, and kinda ruthless.


Yes, but also so very fucking hot, man!

10/10, would bang even with scar

EDIT - i'm afraid i'll be tempted to replay it for the third time with this patch Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 17:36    Post subject:
BloodySpy wrote:
I find that reading the books puts almost all the important characters in a different light, and also fills in lots of gaps in the game storyline (how you broke Dijkstra's ankle, for example, or how and why the Lodge of sorceresses was formed).
I almost finished the sixth book and i find that Triss, Geralt and Ciri in particular are widely different from the game version. Geralt strays completely from the neutral path - and the witcher job altogether - quite fast, and gets entangled in all kinds of shit that has nothing to do with his profession; Triss is a weak, obedient sorceress, unable to make a decision on her own, usually under Eilhart's thumb; Ciri is far from being an innocent young woman - at that age she already was a bandit and a cold-blooded murderer (and practiced long-term lesbomancy with a fellow bandit Twisted Evil ).

And let's not forget the tattoo, which Ciri got in the books. A funny little detail. Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 18:11    Post subject:
I haven't played this in a month I think ...
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 21:33    Post subject:
Drowning_witch wrote:
NeHoMaR wrote:
Drowning_witch wrote:
who even compares borderlands to witcher? Neutral

Nobody. Just an example of 2nd playthrough I want for the Witcher, not my intention to offend fanboys. Laughing


I didn't even play witcher 3 yet. But comparing a random loot drop diabloish fps to a third person action rpg just makes no sense to me, especially with regards to multiple playthroughs.

Borderlands is pretty much made for that, while witcher 3 is more narrative and exploration driven, so not even sure why you'd wanna replay that in the same sense as borderlands.

1st: NO ONE is comparing Witcher 3 and Borderlads, no idea why so many comments about that.

2nd: A second playthrough has a lot of sense, you could start with level 30 keeping all unlocks, recipes, armor, skills, etc. And all quests/enemies will have +30 levels added. I think is perfect for a replay.
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 21:38    Post subject:


Went to Claywitch, where is this merchant? No one to buy the card from..
A travelling merchant was nearby, but he doesn't have cards

E: Ah fuck apparently there is a bug with him not appearing even after you rescue him in the Person in Distress quest.. Mad
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