| Page 14 of 43 |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|
|
 Posted: Fri, 31st Jul 2015 03:48 Post subject: |
|
|
I assume you are implying the botched tactics in DA2/3 :P
Speaking of, I never could make Advanced Tactics Mod work for me in DA1, it was broken as fuck :<
"Good things", etc...
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Fri, 31st Jul 2015 07:14 Post subject: |
|
|
I can dig a XII combat system.
Gustave the Steel
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Fri, 31st Jul 2015 07:43 Post subject: |
|
|
point still stands, why not call it ffXIV and use derp combat, shouldnt have anything to do with ff7. Also that combat system wasn't that great, they actually included a turbo fast forward in the game so you could turbo auto grind areas over and over without pressing buttons = terrible system, may as well implement a game option "win now" that dpuble s combat str each time you press it.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Fri, 31st Jul 2015 10:30 Post subject: |
|
|
| dannofdawn wrote: | | FFXII combat would be great. Gambit system 4 life! |
Dunno i never used it much and i think that's the beauty of the system it was as automated as you wanted it to be, the basic system was just atb without autopause you could automate everything and make plans for every fight or you could play like me and just automate some tedious stuff like buffs and debuffs and do the rest yourself it was your choice it's the best rtwp combat system ever.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Kaltern
Posts: 5859
Location: Lockerbie, Scotland
|
| Posted: Fri, 31st Jul 2015 11:19 Post subject: |
|
|
I still think X's combat was the best in the series, turn based just 'works' - you get to actually think about your next move.
(X-2 on the other hand is just a big NO.)
Playing Valheim every weekday at 10pm GMT - twitch.tv/kaltern
Follow me on Twitter if you feel like it... @kaltern
My system: Ryzen 7 3700x|Gigabyte RTX 2080 Super Windforce OC|Vengeance 3000Mz 16Gb RAM|2x 500Gb Samsung EVO 970 M.2 SSD |SanDisk SSD PLUS 240 GB + OCZ Vertex 2 60Gb SSD|EVA Supernova 650W PSU|Logitech G27 Wheel|Logitech G19 Gaming Pad|SteelSeries Arctis 7|Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Mouse + Logitech MX Master Mouse|Razer Blackwidow Chroma X Keyboard|Oculus Quest 2 + Link|Pixio PX7 Prime 165hz HDR & 1x Samsung 24FG70FQUEN 144Hz curved monitor
-= Word to the wise: Having a higher forum post does not mean you are right. =-
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Saner
Posts: 6877
Location: Uk
|
| Posted: Fri, 31st Jul 2015 11:50 Post subject: |
|
|
| Saner wrote: | | QTE to replace ATB so it can be more cinematic |
Called it
| ragnarus wrote: |
I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Fri, 31st Jul 2015 15:01 Post subject: |
|
|
| AmpegV4 wrote: | | point still stands, why not call it ffXIV and use derp combat, shouldnt have anything to do with ff7. Also that combat system wasn't that great, they actually included a turbo fast forward in the game so you could turbo auto grind areas over and over without pressing buttons = terrible system, may as well implement a game option "win now" that dpuble s combat str each time you press it. |
Calling it FFXIV would be totally cracksmoking. That game already exists. Even calling it FFXVI would be asinine, given that it's going to star Cloud, Aeris, etc. That would just be confusing as fuck.
The solution to this problem isn't naming and semantics. The solution lies in not assfucking the original game with this completely fucked up "remake."
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Fri, 31st Jul 2015 15:27 Post subject: |
|
|
I love FFX and FFXII equally. They both bring something "new" while still feeling familiar. Idk how to explain, they're both very different, but still maintain the main series characteristics. FFXIII on the other hand was just a big clusterfuck of a game. I still can't figure it out how they pick THAT for 2 sequels, instead of, idk, 7, 9 or X. And yes, i do love FFX-2 too.
Job changing system, done right, is one of the best systems in FF, like in FF3, FFTactics or FFX-2. Done wrong, you get FFXIII.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 18:35 Post subject: |
|
|
For all you Automated Massively Offline Fantasy lovers;
http://kotaku.com/final-fantasy-composers-tease-ffxii-remake-1721575227
FFXII "remake" (he likely meant remaster) "accidentally" announced at the Distant Worlds music concert, as well as a statement of "Final Fantasy XV coming soon" - so perhaps we'll learn more at Gamescom next week.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 18:57 Post subject: |
|
|
Would be great if they are finally given the chance to actually polish and finish the final act, release with the proper audio files and maybe rebalance some of the useless technicks.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Przepraszam
VIP Member
Posts: 14491
Location: Poland. New York.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 20:37 Post subject: |
|
|
Nomura also mentioned the FFVII companion movie he directed back in 2005, noting that Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children will serve as a source of inspiration when designing the game's visuals. That said, they "don’t intend on utilizing the 3D models of Advent Children as is because, well, it’s a different technology, and it’s actually been almost ten years since Advent Children was first released."
http://in.ign.com/final-fantasy-vii/78325/news/final-fantasy-7-remakes-combat-will-feature-dramat
They should incorporate Advent Children as a playable epilogue.
1 and 2 are still amazing.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
DaLexy
Posts: 3041
Location: Germany
|
| Posted: Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 21:39 Post subject: |
|
|
Bullshit, when the Old Battle System isnt included its allready over for me.
Guess FF7 + Mods it is then -.-
My SysProfile ッ
I ΓУPΞ LIҜΞ Д БФSS, УФЦЯ ДЯGЦMΞИΓ I$ IИVДLłD
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 21:52 Post subject: |
|
|
Good news for me, I guess.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Mon, 3rd Aug 2015 03:07 Post subject: |
|
|
| DaLexy wrote: | Bullshit, when the Old Battle System isnt included its allready over for me.
Guess FF7 + Mods it is then -.- |
lol sure you're definitely going to play ff7 + mods
Gustave the Steel
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Mon, 3rd Aug 2015 03:40 Post subject: |
|
|
| DaLexy wrote: | Bullshit, when the Old Battle System isnt included its allready over for me.
Guess FF7 + Mods it is then -.- |
Correct answer would have been, changes battlesystem?, I'm not going to play this pos or give square money for their efforts.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
DaLexy
Posts: 3041
Location: Germany
|
| Posted: Mon, 3rd Aug 2015 09:15 Post subject: |
|
|
Yeah, indeed.
Its a big bummer to hear this change 
Im so fucking sad .... i was really hyped when the remake announcement came but the more i hear about it, the more i get frustrated.
My SysProfile ッ
I ΓУPΞ LIҜΞ Д БФSS, УФЦЯ ДЯGЦMΞИΓ I$ IИVДLłD
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Mon, 3rd Aug 2015 10:10 Post subject: |
|
|
Tbh the ATB Battle system in FF7 is very bare bones and bland compared to better turn based systems like the Grandia battle system or press turn from SMT/Persona for example.
So a little overhaul wouldn't be the worst thing that's for sure, it's just that modernSE seems to think that extreme automation or a one button real time action rpg system is the only viable thing today and i think it's the worst that could happen to JRPGs they should instead think how they could make turn based/ATB combat more interesting, tactical and fun.
We had the the same situation in western RPGs some time ago action combat was the only thing back then but this changed and devs realized turn based games don't have to be boring or slow and now we have some very good western turn based games again.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Mon, 3rd Aug 2015 15:10 Post subject: |
|
|
I'd be very happy with a Kingdom Hearts combat system tbh.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Mon, 3rd Aug 2015 18:17 Post subject: |
|
|
I liked Star Ocean 2/3 system.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Mon, 3rd Aug 2015 20:38 Post subject: |
|
|
| Breezer_ wrote: | Would be nice to fight against Sephiroth with just 1 button  |
You mean like
 Spoiler: | Omnislash |
or
| Spoiler: | Knight of the Round |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Mon, 3rd Aug 2015 22:16 Post subject: |
|
|
ATB Turn based is so out of date nowadays. I don't see any reason why it should still be ATB of old. Of course I know people just want FF7 with better graphics, but let's say they HAVE to remake the combat. Then let's not be like the old FF games. Because when they try to do all those flashy moves in turn based like combat (ATB), we got FF13.
But maybe this is all just because I've grew tired of JRPG combats of the old days. To be honest, I think the best way to do turn base in a JRPG is something like Valkyrie Profile or Resonance of Fate. Where you have more active control over combat and still given the time to be tactical. You still have those moments where the game is paused and you think about whether to revive, or heal, or roll the dice on Sleep. If Advent Children is how Square view what FF7 in real time is like, then a combat system similar to RoF might work really well to present that.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Mon, 3rd Aug 2015 23:22 Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
| Page 14 of 43 |
All times are GMT + 1 Hour |
I genuinely love the flexibility of that system. Being able to customize what role your party members take, and how much automation you want is genius. It provided the same satisfaction of the process of building decks of cards for me. IMO all non-action real time RPGs should have something like Gambit / Tactics. After 10, 20, 30 hours, sometimes you just don't want to manual all the mob fights anymore.
