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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 15:58    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 16:01    Post subject:
But i'd like minimum noise from the CPU Fan (Yes,there's a "knob" to control it manually).


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 16:18    Post subject:
With proper CPU fans it's a non-issue. Your GPU and case fans will be making more noise by far.
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 16:18    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 17:00    Post subject:
You mean something like this? http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=111&lng=es

However i'd need one that does "Intake / Outtake" (aka not aiming to the Core V71's window but receiving from the front and exhausting from the ass)


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 17:45    Post subject:
He even has a good cooler (not the most silent though). Just go to your BIOS and pump that multiplier. Times when you could burn your CPU's are gone, never ones just throttle or bluescreen. Nothing permanent.

You should easily get 4,5 GHz out of 2500K and maybe more. And at that clock you don't need an upgrade any more.
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DV2




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 18:07    Post subject:
But i want to upgrade to the newer technology,even if there's a 30% in CPU difference terms, but then you also win more stability and many other improvements. I've had this PC for 4 years and new things are coming out that won't take the max profit of the PC's hardware stuff (be it USB 3.1, among many other things), do a big jump that'd last me like forever. That includes gaming (Stability,performance, no frame drops among many other things people dislikes)

PS: I'm no troll btw, i've been told like that coz i keep asking questions about things that worries me, specially when it comes to hardware related stuff, so please stop that.I'M BEING PACIFIC HERE!


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 18:42    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
PS: I'm no troll btw, i've been told like that coz i keep asking questions about things that worries me, specially when it comes to hardware related stuff, so please stop that.

You have been told that because you keep asking the same questions over and over. Even if someone takes their time explaining things to you, you end up ignoring or forgetting all of it and then come back later seeking advice on the same subject.
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 18:45    Post subject:
Not to mention that for $15 or something, you get a "return once and get new one without asking questions if you burn through it with OC" warranty from Intel. Showing just how sure they are about their "K" models OC capabilities. Wink


Edit: $25 for the more higher models: http://click.intel.com/tuningplan/purchase-a-plan

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The Performance Tuning Protection Plan is Intel offering you a chance to push the tuning of your boxed processor to a new level. The plan allows you a single processor replacement for your boxed processor, hassle-free, from our customer support. This is in addition to your standard 3 year warranty. If you are serious about overclocking, yet you want the safety of recovering from a setting gone wrong, then this is the plan for you.


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DV2




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2015 18:59    Post subject:
Mine's not there anymore ;w;

Still, we'll have to wait and see gaming reviews among other things whenever the Skylake CPUs and MoBos comes out.. Can't wait XwX; Sometimes depending of the person's needs n stuff is "Upgrade or die" and i waited n saved for this moment, but hopefully it does that 30% bumpage.. somehow it'd be beneficial!


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jul 2015 00:26    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jul 2015 07:07    Post subject:
Those are with Program Benchmarks, but gimme a gaming one whenever it comes out.

Still, one day the improvements of the new Skylake boards and stuff will be very useful, besides of energy consumption reduction or something.


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jul 2015 07:54    Post subject:
Still on a first Generation i5 here. i5 750. Still works really well but was never able to overclock it. Pretty sure Skylake will be time to upgrade for me xD

People have been talking about performance increase last 2 pages, but I havent seen DDR4 mentioned there anywhere. Would this not also result in better performance over an older gen and ddr3?


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jul 2015 08:43    Post subject:
Badrien wrote:
Still on a first Generation i5 here. i5 750. Still works really well but was never able to overclock it. Pretty sure Skylake will be time to upgrade for me xD

People have been talking about performance increase last 2 pages, but I havent seen DDR4 mentioned there anywhere. Would this not also result in better performance over an older gen and ddr3?


Supposedly marginal speed increase over DDR3.
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jul 2015 10:02    Post subject:
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@Badrien looking up your processor, I have a slighter better processor overclocked. Still a toss up though, I'ts basically an upgrade to force performance out of badly optimised games as most well made games run great.


Yeah the problem certainly isnt with games. It runs most ive thrown at it pretty fine. Its just its getting to be pretty old now. Its a stock dell motherboard and its a bitch finding a replacement for it. Not sure it will hold out for another generation. Were I able to overclock it I had probably skipped this generation too but alas. I was expecting more from skylake than just another marginal increase though so thats a shame, but hadnt been keeping track of it much.
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Jul 2015 23:39    Post subject:
New GAMING Benchmarks

http://benchmarkhardware.com/2015/07/filtradas-fotos-y-resultados-del-intel-i7-6700k-96543/

6700K VS 4790K VS 5820K

with possible Gigabyte Z170 MB and obviously DDR4 + GTX 980Ti + 1000W PSU

Also, coming August 8th?


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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Jul 2015 00:08    Post subject:
Performance increases since SB has been so marginal, its safe to say SB lasts next 5 years still.
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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Jul 2015 08:13    Post subject:
it is marginal since SB but over the years it adds up. when i had 2500K 4.5Ghz cpu intensive games like ACU ran like shit. now with 5820K 4.4Ghz they are silky smooth.
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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Jul 2015 09:03    Post subject:
rgb#000 wrote:
it is marginal since SB but over the years it adds up. when i had 2500K 4.5Ghz cpu intensive games like ACU ran like shit. now with 5820K 4.4Ghz they are silky smooth.


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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Jul 2015 11:20    Post subject:
what?
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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Jul 2015 11:54    Post subject:
Maybe 2500K is starting to show its age on some titles what can use up to 8 threads... But something like 2600k and heavy OC, you are not going to see any major improvements, if you "upgrade".
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Aug 2015 17:42    Post subject:
My goal is the 6700K for besides of gaming i do heavy amounts of photoshop then video editing on premiere pro cc (Although i use a "Nvenc_Export" patch to enable full use of my GTX 970, it also should involve CPU), so it lasts like... Forever.

Might cost but be worth the features and futureproof too.


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Aug 2015 09:52    Post subject:
Skylake is such a disappointment. It's been hyped (even long before broadwell was released) as the true next-gen CPU with major increase in performance (IPC), efficiency (power) and overclocking ability. What we really have is not much more than a tock (die-shrink) of Broadwell which was entirely focused on power saving, primarily aimed at increasing battery time for laptops, touchpads etc.



I guess we won't see any true effort in IPC/performance unless AMD manages to kick some butt with Zen (doubtful). We're basically stuck with tiny iterations of Sandy Bridge where power efficiency has replaced any major efforts to increase actual performance. No competition = Intel can continue to release "tocks" over and over again, ignoring "ticks" since there's no competition that push the CPU evolution.


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Aug 2015 10:26    Post subject:
well it's the first with on-die RAM Very Happy

imagine in 1-2 generation 1GB of on-die RAM as L4 cache


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Aug 2015 11:12    Post subject:
Atleast we get a (very) few evolved technologies that could be helpeful in the future, think of that..


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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Aug 2015 09:04    Post subject:
Should i wait for Skylake or get a Haswell-E 5820?! Would like to build a PC that would resist for a couple of years.
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Aug 2015 09:55    Post subject:
different beasts. skylake Z170 is mainstream platform and Haswell-E is enthusiast platform. if you get 5820K you need to be prepared for overclocking and beefy cooling (noctua nh-d15 should be bare minimum as far as cooling goes), not that 6700K will run much cooler, maybe just slightly.

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we don't know how well 6700K will OC in reality (these early articles about OC are meaningless), but let's say it goes up to 4.8Ghz and 5820K goes up to 4.5Ghz. i would take 6 cores at 4.5Ghz any day over 4 cores at 4.8Ghz Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Aug 2015 09:56    Post subject:
That means a better case than the one i have right now (an old Antec 900, first generation). Most of the sites don't seem to mention if a case supports E-ATX or not (at least in my area) Sad

My old CPU did fine until 2014, despite being an old Core 2 Extreme E6850. The problems appeared with the release of stuff that is CPU intensive like the latest Alien, Mordor, DA:I and TW3.

So i decided to finally upgrade. Losing track a bit lately, i've started to dig for the information. I rejected the Broadwell, as it was a short-term solution and the price for it around here it's almost the same with the Haswell-E (dumb, i know). Than i saw the upcoming Skylake, but everything i've seen it was not very detailed and i am still not convinced about the Skylake. Haswell-E 5820K seemed already a nice one, especially with the OC and its price is in the allocated budget for CPU (though it's at the limit)

Still trying to find a good full tower case (200 euro allocated for that) and a Power Supply at around 1000W-1200W (175 euro allocated for it).
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