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| sabin1981 wrote: | | "I really want to play FIFA but I hate the way the players kick the ball, I want the kicking system changed. I'd prefer it if it was Foosball!" |
That pretty much sums it up perfectly, I also don't get why these fans can't play any other "modern" action game rather than demand reform from legendary games the define genres.
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Aug 2015 19:53 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Aug 2015 02:51 Post subject: |
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Have they even released info on what the changes are?
I hope it's XII's combat system.
Gustave the Steel
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Aug 2015 12:03 Post subject: |
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| AKofC wrote: | | I hope it's XII's combat system. |
No, go play XII instead. |
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Aug 2015 19:00 Post subject: |
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| Morphineus wrote: | | AKofC wrote: | | I hope it's XII's combat system. |
No, go play XII instead. |
VII has a more involving plot. So hopefully ADB or something similar to it. Hopefully no Crisis Core like combat system.
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| Posted: Thu, 6th Aug 2015 00:35 Post subject: |
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| AKofC wrote: | | Morphineus wrote: | | AKofC wrote: | | I hope it's XII's combat system. |
No, go play XII instead. |
VII has plot. |
Fixed that for ya in the context of FF12 "plot" :P
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| Posted: Thu, 6th Aug 2015 03:24 Post subject: |
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Yep. I think the whole bishounen thing ruined XII. Nobody likes Vaan. And I guess the designers didn't either but were forced to have him in as the "lead" on paper, but seeing how they had manlier men in the party, just let you do fuck all. lol
Never finished XII. I liked the combat system, it was refreshing, but yeah, plot.
Never finished VII either actually. I grinded lots to get Aeris up some insane levels because she's the healer and that's how I always final fantasy'd. That kinda started the whole thing. By the time in the plot where a wheelchair was involved with tons of inner reflection things going on, I just couldn't continue.
Gustave the Steel
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| Posted: Thu, 6th Aug 2015 03:34 Post subject: |
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| AKofC wrote: | Yep. I think the whole bishounen thing ruined XII. Nobody likes Vaan. And I guess the designers didn't either but were forced to have him in as the "lead" on paper, but seeing how they had manlier men in the party, just let you do fuck all. lol
Never finished XII. I liked the combat system, it was refreshing, but yeah, plot.
Never finished VII either actually. I grinded lots to get Aeris up some insane levels because she's the healer and that's how I always final fantasy'd. That kinda started the whole thing. By the time in the plot where a wheelchair was involved with tons of inner reflection things going on, I just couldn't continue. |
They had Basch (the old warrior) as the lead for like 70% of the game development. Then the wigs were afraid the public wouldn't "connect" to a non-teen-non-emmo character. That's why the character growth and plot is so shallow.
Edited for correcting, the main character was Basch, not Balthier. I mixed up the two 
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| Posted: Thu, 6th Aug 2015 03:49 Post subject: |
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It was too bad about Vaan. I would have preferred if his brother was the lead (if they want the whole "bishonen thing"). Someone that was broken by the torture, accusations, and as a fugitive.
But even with Vaan and to a slightly lesser degree Penelo, I still think FFXII was great story-wise up til they ran out of time in the last act. Kind of like Kotor 2 with Malachor V. Ashe, Balthier, Basch, Gabranth and Vayne were all great characters. The politics of the Empire and its Judges were fascinating and the scenes concerning those topics were excellent. I still fondly remember Vayne's speech at the beginning (they actually wrote the speech as a way to introduce him instead of just having exposition spewing audiences. Not many games to that.), and the scene where he subtly manipulates the Judges to join him and eliminate the opposing ones for him.
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| Posted: Thu, 6th Aug 2015 04:31 Post subject: |
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But reflecting on my time with FFX vs. FFXII I'd say the former blitzes the latter on every level and there's just so much more it could have improved on.
FFX needed this:
Ability to skip through sentence by sentence dialog, basically just bring it up to date.
Combat, no animation lock to improve the combat pacing, no need to switch all six chars every single fight for xp, that's an annoying mechanic forcing u into more animation locks.
For derps - combat option to auto resolve after killing 20 mobs or something to not be frustrated when exploring, I'm happy with the no encounter item as it is tbh.
These were the reasons combat is deemed slow as and not pew pew enough.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Aug 2015 11:21 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Aug 2015 11:49 Post subject: |
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That looks fucking fantastic.
| ragnarus wrote: |
I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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xDBS
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tonizito
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Aug 2015 19:48 Post subject: |
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After type 0 I've pretty much given up on any FF game from now on.
This one will likely follow the latest traditions: time limits, retarded "no more than one quest active at all times!", auto-combat and the beloved rankings for how well you performed on battle! 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Aug 2015 19:53 Post subject: |
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| tonizito wrote: | After type 0 I've pretty much given up on any FF game from now on.
This one will likely follow the latest traditions: time limits, retarded "no more than one quest active at all times!", auto-combat and the beloved rankings for how well you performed on battle! |
That sounds like utter garbage. Glad I didn't try that game. |
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xDBS
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 05:27 Post subject: |
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but muh profits
gotta sell fast
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 05:52 Post subject: |
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Fortunately I don't give any of these companies money. I'm basically only playing retro's these days. Current attitude of devs today:
Hey remember this fucking awesome game?! > well guess what, here is a product using the name and artwork that's so fucking derp simplified it may as well be a movie or has gameplay in no way shape or form near the original.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 06:06 Post subject: |
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| xDBS wrote: | last good jrpg I can remember playing was Valkyria Chronicles  . And even tho I said I get into gameplay of old JRPGs becuase of the combat, its hard anymore to beat a lot of the oldschool ones I haven't played just becuase of the lack of true character development. |
Grab Dolphin and Xenoblade. It's insanely good, only reason why it wont be easy for me to go back is because I lost my 80 hours unfinished save when I formatted my PC 
Someday...
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 08:27 Post subject: |
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I played most of older jrpgs for their battle systems. Most were good with ATB in the lead but after that shit that is called FF XIII and some newer titles I have no more hopes for future in this genre.
sar·casm | \ ˈsär-ˌka-zəm \
1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2a: a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual
b: the use or language of sarcasm
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 08:36 Post subject: |
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| tonizito wrote: | | xDBS wrote: | | last good jrpg I can remember playing was Valkyria Chronicles :(. And even tho I said I get into gameplay of old JRPGs becuase of the combat, its hard anymore to beat a lot of the oldschool ones I haven't played just becuase of the lack of true character development. |
Grab Dolphin and Xenoblade. It's insanely good, only reason why it wont be easy for me to go back is because I lost my 80 hours unfinished save when I formatted my PC :cry:
Someday... |
Why not start again? :P
I personally unable to continue my old savegamesin jRPGs after a while, because I forget the way I was handling the progress and it just not fun to continue and better to start over.
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xDBS
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 14:31 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | Can't you just download someone elses savegame? As long as they haven't neglected that cross talent thing, then it should be ok. |
HERESY! 
It just wouldn't be MY savegame, you know?
@xDBS: Well, considering the state of things now would be a nice time to start. Because at least on the square-enix side... it's dead
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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