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FaReWeLL_FiReFLY




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 17:47    Post subject:
BloodAngel wrote:
but u had to unplug with X3 Reunion or just mount and play ?

wish someone would leak the beta Sad


no, i didn't have to unplug anything. just mount and play. on another note, i tried F.E.A.R (Securom 7) and this did not work for me. shame. also note that SR7.stop did not detect DT4's virtual drive so there's no getting around it that way. i have seen other uses reporting securom emulation working with other games however.
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TheNerd




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 18:16    Post subject:
i dont get it...why the free version (the one that you all are flamming..) is a crap???

and when does the Pro should be released?? and will it have any diffrences?


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 20:30    Post subject:
TheNerd wrote:
i dont get it...why the free version (the one that you all are flamming..) is a crap???

Of course its not. DT4 rocks my balls Wink
Those who bitch about free stuff are just pathetic losers
You cant have better than this for free. Next step - DT Pro and its 15$ (thats the part where you can bitch if you dont like something) Rolling Eyes
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Crusher




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 20:35    Post subject:
This might help some people -->

Starforce 3 only checks for IDE drivers. So what the most common options is, is too unplug your IDE drives. However, you can also use a PCI controller or something like that and plug your optical drives into that. This makes it a SCSI cd/dvd-rom/burner.

It worked this way for my m8 Smile
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BloodAngel




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 20:52    Post subject:
Ermmmm, what is a PCI controller?

wonder if can make a switch on ur power cable that u can just flip to switch off power to ur drives... like chop power cables to ur cd/dvd drives and attach a switch
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Crusher




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 20:54    Post subject:
I mean an ATA controller
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BloodAngel




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 20:59    Post subject:
okies.... well, what is an ATA controller ? is it a device for switching off drives?


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Drvre




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:03    Post subject:
BloodAngel wrote:


wonder if can make a switch on ur power cable that u can just flip to switch off power to ur drives... like chop power cables to ur cd/dvd drives and attach a switch


No, you can't , IDE standard is not hot-swapable. If you'd go and do that, you'd expirience lockups, maybe even crashes, do that too many times and say bye-bye to your roms. The only standards that support hot-swap are Firewire, USB and SATA.
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BloodAngel




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:07    Post subject:
whats hot-swap? is this where u can just unplug ur power withotu having to shut down?

i have a SATA converter plug... may try plugging that into my IDE DVD RW drive and then try


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HeyDude




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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Nov 2005 05:22    Post subject:
Hey, what about if you make all your IDE Optical drives into SCSI with IDE-to-SCSI adapter AEC7722, (http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20030130/scsi_adapters-02.html#aec7722_the_bridge_between_ide_and_scsi)
and SCSI card

Would this work?

Also about power switch for IDE drives, it'll work no problem but you can't do it while your PC is still running. Still easiest way to go, and how often do you people use your burners anyway.
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Drvre




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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Nov 2005 06:54    Post subject:
HeyDude wrote:
Hey, what about if you make all your IDE Optical drives into SCSI with IDE-to-SCSI adapter AEC7722, (http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20030130/scsi_adapters-02.html#aec7722_the_bridge_between_ide_and_scsi)
and SCSI card

Would this work?

Also about power switch for IDE drives, it'll work no problem but you can't do it while your PC is still running. Still easiest way to go, and how often do you people use your burners anyway.


Well, that's like scratching your left year with your right hand through the back of your head: using a bridge and then an addon card. Why don't you go and read the forum properly before you post, the proposed method was to simply use a PCI IDE controller (if you're wondering, this appears in the device manager as a SCSI controller, you don't need to have SCSI written all over the controller's box), which costs about 20$ tops. Someone even managed to get it to work.Now go and read this

http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13157&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=484

http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13157&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=565

As for the switches, this might not work for everybody, as I said before, my system needed to have the IDE cable removed, removing only the power cable made it freeze at the "detecting IDE drives" screen.
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TheNerd




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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Nov 2005 11:55    Post subject:
KrutojPoc wrote:
TheNerd wrote:
i dont get it...why the free version (the one that you all are flamming..) is a crap???

Of course its not. DT4 rocks my balls Wink
Those who bitch about free stuff are just pathetic losers
You cant have better than this for free. Next step - DT Pro and its 15$ (thats the part where you can bitch if you dont like something) Rolling Eyes



OMG! Shocked
how do you make it to "rock your balls"???

its just a computer software Shocked Shocked


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2005 01:34    Post subject:
Okay, this has to be solved somehow...

I can run starforce, securom & safedisc games without disconnecting or hiding anything. (x3, ufo, nfs:mw etc.)

The only factor I have found so far is that I've got a board with the nforce3 chipset, and the drivers I use with my dvd-burner is called nvatabus.sys, the ones coming with nforce 5.10 drivers.

Can people post which chipset their board is using and whether they need to unplug drives, hide units or can mount and run with dt4?


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BloodAngel




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Nov 2005 17:49    Post subject:
DAEMON Tools 4 x64

http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/download.php?mode=Download&id=83


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mickeyinthahouse




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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Nov 2005 03:39    Post subject:
Scyphe wrote:
Okay, this has to be solved somehow...

I can run starforce, securom & safedisc games without disconnecting or hiding anything. (x3, ufo, nfs:mw etc.)

The only factor I have found so far is that I've got a board with the nforce3 chipset, and the drivers I use with my dvd-burner is called nvatabus.sys, the ones coming with nforce 5.10 drivers.

Can people post which chipset their board is using and whether they need to unplug drives, hide units or can mount and run with dt4?


Here using dual sata 2 socket 939 chipset norhbridge : ULi/ALi M1689 Northbridge: AMD Hammer IMC, Southbridge : Uli/ALi M1563. Only with scct lower number of sf ) i've to disconnect my IDE 2 manualy in my bios works fine here, and some other games, thus this works always here disabling ide in bios, but the weirdest thing is the with most of the games i don't have to shut down my channel 2 in my bios, but can play the game just only mounting in daemon tools 4 without any tools or whatever, even with the highist sf numbers Smile
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si110




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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Nov 2005 11:02    Post subject:
Unplugging prob solved,got external enclosure for optical drive of ebay, cost less then a pack of smokes.
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