According to this, the game is a total joke. 10/10 perfect scores everywhere, but here we have someone who speaks his honest mind and takes a huge dump on it. No sign of Kojima fanboy bullshit here either...
How can you even defend this shit after watching the video? I loved MGS1, but this looks like nothing but a huge waste of time.
for all filthy pirates: if the posting on 3dms forum is true the crack is done and seems to be working 100% on win7. they are trying getting it to work on 8.1 and 10 as well atm.
dont know if its true, maybe they only want more hits on their website. but i dont know why 3dm should lie
did they released it or just said that?
anyway i want mad max more
I hope Mad Max gets released first. But only because i guess that it will be quicker to finish.
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but this looks like nothing but a huge waste of time.
Yup, best waste of time I did in a long time
Though I didn't watch the whole youtube video and while some of his points are true, it doesn't change my oppinion of the game.
The fact he critizises that stealth is more rewarded than killing everyone is just stupid. Thats what these games have always done. Its practically what they are about. Though of course, this guy hasn't even played the older titles
From what I read you can use the Butterfly emblem and Quiet won't leave you.
I know, that's what my previous spoilers contained, but sausje wanted a more precise and spoilery reason for what that was for. And this is why I restarted my game
What point/mission do you have to make that change by/before?
JBeckman wrote:
The logo editor framerate problem has been fixed in 1.004, along with a rare crash issue during the first chapter of the game.
Thanks, I'm glad not everyone is a fucking smartass. I noticed after the latest patch when I let it go online again all the menus are slow, so it could be linked to that I guess. The only time I tried the logo editor was the first time I played, and I let it go online then. I'll try it again and see how it goes.
What point/mission do you have to make that change by/before?
Why don't you just get it now (e.g. by replaying older missions)? Knowing the mission is a spoiler as well, after all
Spoiler:
The chain of events starts with mission 41. So before than should be good.
DCB wrote:
I noticed after the latest patch when I let it go online again all the menus are slow, so it could be linked to that I guess. The only time I tried the logo editor was the first time I played, and I let it go online then. I'll try it again and see how it goes.
The "iDroid" menus can be pretty slow during online play from what I've noticed, rewards and combat team missions section especially and I think it's due to the very high server load but unfortunately it also causes problems during normal solo play since it affects the entire iDroid menu system. (If you don't intend to use the forward ops - which can be invaded while you are offline too - you can just import the GZ data and after that firewall block the game exe.)
Will I get the story if I played two older games half-assedly (I basically don't remember anything)? Or shouldn't I bother?
Play it for the gameplay which is excellent. The story is the worst aspect of the game which is poorly told in cutscenes and you better listen to the optional cassette tapes (good old audio logs from other franchises) for plot details.
MGS3, Peace Walker, MG1, MGS1 seem to be the more important games to know of. Also the retconned "explanations" from MGS4 which explain how all games released by then tie together. Oh and Ground Zeroes is recapped anyway.
The chronology of the games is this:
MGS3
MGS:PO (portable game, semi-canon)
MGS:PW
MGSV:GZ
MGSV:TPP <-this game
MG1
MG2
MGS1
MGS2
MGS4
MGR (new plot, irrelevant to the overarching plot of the series)
Here is what you need to know:
In MGS3 a soldier called Naked Snake working for FOX was given the mission to take down his mentor, The Boss, the mother of Special Forces (this is supposed to mean one of the greatest soldiers/leaders I guess). She apparently defected to the Soviet Union and was involved in a nuclear incident. Your commander is called Major Zero. A "friendly rivalry" with what would turn out to be a quadruple(?) spy called Ocelot starts in this game. As Naked Snake you succeed in your mission and kill her and you are given the title of Big Boss, because "you are even above the Boss" now. In the end, in a twist, you learn that the defection of The Boss was orchestrated by America because they needed a scapegoat to kill her themselves. The Boss was just following orders knowing fully well and having accepted her mission was to defect, be labeled as a traitor by her country, a monster by the world for her supposed involvement in the nuclear incident and finally be killed by her very own apprentice. Her philosophy was that for a soldier the only thing that matters is "the mission", nothing more, nothing less. There are no bad or good countries, all this changes as the times change. As a soldier you just have to believe in "the end", "the mission", whatever you want to call it.
Now, the following is pieced from here and there but mostly from the retcons in MGS4 I believe: Big Boss leaves the FOX unit. Along with his commander in the above mission: Zero, Ocelot and other people they create the organization The Patriots. They are inspired by The Boss' will. Zero interprets her will as the need to secretly run the world to unify it. Big Boss interprets her will as the need for soldiers to be free from goverments. They clash. Zero turns Big Boss into an icon for the world. Big Boss does not like that. Zero worries what would happen if he lost Big Boss so he clones him. Three clones/children of Big Boss are made. These are Liquid Snake (MGS1 villain), Solid Snake (MG1/2 & MGS1/4 protagonist), Solidus Snake (MGS2 villain). Big Boss does not like that and leaves the organization.
In Peace Walker: Still being inspired by his mentor Big Boss continues to want to create an army without a nation. Along with Kazuhira Miller they do just that. Their "Mother Base" is called Militaires Sans Frontières.
In Ground Zeroes Big Boss is in a rescue mission of some characters from Peace Walker (Paz, Chico), when an organization called XOF and lead by Skull Face attacks and destroys their Mother Base.
Big Boss falls in a 9 year comma. Commence The Phantom Pain's plot where Big Boss wakes from his coma and is given the task to rescue the recently captured Kazuhira Miller and create again their Mother Base, this time called Diamond Dogs. Ocelot assists him. <Events of the game take place here which I won't spoil.>
After this game in the timeline, in Metal Gear 1, a young rookie soldier called Solid Snake is tasked by his commander, Big Boss, to execute "Operation Intrude N313": infiltrate a place called "Outer Heaven" where a nuclear weapon (Metal Gear) is said to being developed. Solid Snake goes there only to find out Big Boss himself is the terrorist's leader. Outer Heaven is yet another iteration of Big Boss' attempt to create "a nation without an army". The place is bombed but Big Boss, apparently, survives.
In Metal Gear 2, Solid Snake is sent to Zanzibar Land on a mission. Turns out the bad guy's leader is, yes, again Big Boss. Solid Snake learns Big Boss was his "father" (doesn't know he is his clone). Big Boss' world view appears to be a further distorted view of The Boss's view: "Start a war, fan its flames, and create victims... then save them, train them... and feed them back onto the battlefield." he tells Snake. Solid Snake burns him alive. In MGS4 Big Boss's death is retconned and we learn how over the years: he survived but was in a coma, and Zero created AIs to run the world (because that's what HE thought The Boss would want) and how these AIs went out of control and made the world a shitty place.
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In MGS4, Ocelot who has been one of the bad guys in MGS1, 2 & 4, dies and we learn in truth he wasn't such a bad guy but he had a master plan to act like he was. In truth he was always in Big Boss' side and opposing Zero. Big Boss turns out to not be such a bad dude himself. Finally Big Boss kills Zero, a senile old man by now, whose AIs went out of control long ago and turned the world into a shitty place and were at least partially responsible for the events in MGS1, 2 and 4.
Big Boss finally understands The Boss's will before he dies:
Quote:
Boss... You were right. It's not about changing the world. It's about doing our best to leave the world... The way it is. It's about respecting the will of others... And believing in your own. Isn't that... What you fought for? At last... I understand the meaning behind what you did. At last... I understand the truth behind your courage.
At which point the player is like was that really THAT hard to understand?
Solid Snake's body is deteriorating very fast and will die soon (something like a few months?). He decides to live his last days as Big Boss told him: "not as a snake, but as a man". The end.
Alternative explanation of the ending of MGS4:
And do note some of the above events are retconned by this game but I didn't include these retcons because they are revealed as twists, so you gotta play it first.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
@Meseder We usually have people that can think for themselves without needing a hilarious 3rd party to judge the game for US who PLAYED THE GAME.
That's not Kojima fanboy bullshit, so please...
+999
There are many valid points to flaws which are definitely there. And the most impressive thing about the game is that despite many flaws the game is simply outstanding. 50 hours of the game in 4 days is something new to me. Never played a game so intensively.
Nui wrote:
If you condense it like that it sounds stupid(er)
Ocelot acting as the bad guy did make some sense (a little, very little)
Yep. Also bringing the patriot gun to the graveyard made sense - he laid it at Boss' grave, did he not?
Also question - does the game become harder later on with choppers and tanks appearing after sounding alarm? Or only if it's scripted?
Can you spoiler (inside a spoiler ofc) what it is you're talking about? Kinda hard to decide up front to avoid it or let it happen without having to restart like you did...
I know. I just don't want to spoil it
Maybe just create regular backups of the saves?
This spoiler contains the gameplay consenquences! This IS a spoiler! Not as light as my last ones!
Spoiler:
You won't be able to use Quiet as a buddy anymore
Thanks
And to prevent that I'll have to do that what you put in the spoiler before right?
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Omg that video.. Balloons on animals going up and back to base, the horse at the end lol hahahah holy shit I knew I would not like the game so not bothered but there are some real holes in this one.
According to this, the game is a total joke. 10/10 perfect scores everywhere, but here we have someone who speaks his honest mind and takes a huge dump on it. No sign of Kojima fanboy bullshit here either...
How can you even defend this shit after watching the video? I loved MGS1, but this looks like nothing but a huge waste of time.
That's the idiot that complained about the size of the world in Witcher 3 while exploring the prologue area.
i dont watch that idiot's videos, he complains about games like witcher 3 and mgs 5, while giving ubi-esque busywork games like shadow of morebore a thumbs up
Dude, balloons on wild dead animals, horses, and whatever else. It is just very odd lol
p.s I know what metal gear is, its a name that used to be good till it got hyped to fuck. So all fanbois would wet their knickers at it, people are so fucking blind and dumb.
Dude, balloons on wild dead animals, horses, and whatever else. It is just very odd lol
In metal gear you surprise with fucking carton!
Btw you cannot balloon anything thats dead
moosenoodles wrote:
p.s I know what metal gear is, its a name that used to be good till it got hyped to fuck.
Well, to me it still lives up to the hype. I put quite a few hours into this game already and I find it extremely awesome. Am I a fanboy now?
Yuri wrote:
Nanomachines, son.
War never changes, until War has changed, man!
No it was not aimed at you. why would you think that? because I differ with my view on something? No silly, in all honestly the game could of been so much better the assets are good etc but what is it konamis last game or something it seems like someone took easy mode on it all thats really the deal here.
According to this, the game is a total joke. 10/10 perfect scores everywhere, but here we have someone who speaks his honest mind and takes a huge dump on it. No sign of Kojima fanboy bullshit here either...
How can you even defend this shit after watching the video? I loved MGS1, but this looks like nothing but a huge waste of time.
That's the idiot that complained about the size of the world in Witcher 3 while exploring the prologue area.
Yea, I'm not believing a thing he says.
"OMG that idiot said something about Witcher 3, so I don't believe in anything he says. Never. Even if he makes some valid points, I simply refuse!"
Grow the fuck up, open your eyes and just admit the game is not a perfect 10/10. Its gameplay and mission design is repetitive as fuck, the story is a crazy mess, no real open world as in FC3, boring characters and locations without any variety, but because of the need to justify your purchase to support the "genius" of Kojima, everything is golden. Yes, he made MGS1 which was an incredible achievement back in 1998, but that doesn't mean he's not capable of dropping some serious turds once in awhile. Konami smelled the shitstorm and just fired his ass. No more asking for time and money, no more Metal Gear, no Silent Hills, nothing. You finally got your big Hollywood actor, but it's time to move on. Bye.
According to this, the game is a total joke. 10/10 perfect scores everywhere, but here we have someone who speaks his honest mind and takes a huge dump on it. No sign of Kojima fanboy bullshit here either...
How can you even defend this shit after watching the video? I loved MGS1, but this looks like nothing but a huge waste of time.
That's the idiot that complained about the size of the world in Witcher 3 while exploring the prologue area.
Yea, I'm not believing a thing he says.
"OMG that idiot said something about Witcher 3, so I don't believe in anything he says. Never. Even if he makes some valid points, I simply refuse!"
Grow the fuck up, open your eyes and just admit the game is not a perfect 10/10. Its gameplay and mission design is repetitive as fuck, the story is a crazy mess, no real open world as in FC3, boring characters and locations without any variety, but because of the need to justify your purchase to support the "genius" of Kojima, everything is golden. Yes, he made MGS1 which was an incredible achievement back in 1998, but that doesn't mean he's not capable of dropping some serious turds once in awhile. Konami smelled the shitstorm and just fired his ass. No more asking for time and money, no more Metal Gear, no Silent Hills, nothing. You finally got your big Hollywood actor, but it's time to move on. Bye.
I haven't seen anyone here cheering about Kojima and praising the game as a perfect one. In fact nobody here gives a shit if this game is a 8/10, 9/10 or 10/10. Take your post to the Steam forums.
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