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 Posted: Fri, 25th Nov 2005 18:35 Post subject: |
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I would see the point of requesting multi's if you burn games for friends and you aren't in an english-speaking country. What gets me though is requesting multi-lang on an english-language forum, where you [usually] have to be fluent enough to understand the replies people would post to your question [apart from the yes and no replies.] So, if you're here and you're asking, there's a fair chance you're fluent enough to understand a game in english.
I'm probably wrong in some cases, people that don't have good english probably ask this, but I personally prefer to play games in their original language, because the [sometimes sub-par] voice acting tends to go to hell after translation. I've seen it so many times with American films subbed in Russian, it isn't even funny.
Yes, devs should hire translators to do at least subtitles for most major games, but IMO, if you ask it in an English forum, it's a moot point more often than not.
I could be wrong, not that it will prevent the offended for crapflooding me to hell.
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Nov 2005 20:20 Post subject: |
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I'm Flemish and I prefer not to play games in Dutch, which is my native language. One of the reasons for that is that the translations are very stupid (e.g. Black and White, Medal of Honour) and it just doesn't feel right if a game isn't English.
I think most Germans, French and Spanish want to play games in their own language because they are used to movies and tv-series being dubbed in their language whereas in Belgium nothing is dubbed (sounds stupid, costs to much compared to adding subtitles) and people don't mind reading subtitles. We start learning English in school in Belgium at the age of 13-14. This might also be one of the reasons why we like our games and movies in English. I don't know if you learn English in school in Germany, Spain and France.
The only drawback about multilanguage games is the releasedates. Games that have to be translated are often released later in Europe as opposed to the USA.
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Nov 2005 21:54 Post subject: |
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English is not my native language, but there's no way I would ever want to play games in my native language, also there's also no way I'm going to buy a game where it's not possible to play in the original language
And what I hate the most is automatic localization of apps/websites. When I go to google.com that means that I want to go to google.com and NOT google.dk. And when I go to messenger.msn.com that means that I want to download the english version of messenger, and not the danish version. I don't know how many times I've by accident installed the danish version of some program, to uninstall it 10 seconds after opening to the program (after finding out there's no way to change the language settings to english)
And WHY do I have to wait for games to be released several months later, just because the game has to be translated into 2000+ languages? Why should I be punished just because other people don't understand english?
I learned english because of games, back when I got an Amiga I didn't understand english at all, but I only played english games, which helped me a lot learning english
So far I see nothing positive about localizating anything. Add optional subtitles if anything
Oh, and I've also always hated subtitles. I really hate it when I end up buying a DVD where subtitles can't be removed. The removal of subtitles is the main reason for buying DVDs
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Nov 2005 00:19 Post subject: |
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| Accelleron wrote: | | I would see the point of requesting multi's if you burn games for friends and you aren't in an english-speaking country. What gets me though is requesting multi-lang on an english-language forum, where you [usually] have to be fluent enough to understand the replies people would post to your question [apart from the yes and no replies.] So, if you're here and you're asking, there's a fair chance you're fluent enough to understand a game in english. |
Even if it could be a matter of knoweldge for some people, i beleive those using this forum dont really have an issue with english.
Its not a matter of understanding english but of willing to play in english. Its not cause you can run that u dont prefer to walk most of the time.
Now people ask if it got multi cause.. they want/need that information for whatever personal reason we dont care about, and i beleive its what this site is all about: information. What the fuck you care if they prefer to play in this or that language? its their business...
Why do people sometimes ask about publishers? it can vary depending on country for one same game, they dont develop the title so this isnt a guarantee for quality, and furthermore it wont impact gaming experience at all besides a logo at launch (yea prots too etc but thats another story). What i mean is.. they ask cause they wanna know, who cares about the reason.
O and yea, agreed, this thread is useless but kept me busy for a couple of minutes on a boring evening 
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Dunge
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Nov 2005 09:16 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: |
Guess that means you're not from Montreal? |
Why wouldn't I be from Montreal? I know all immigrant go there so there is lot more of english people but still I guess lot of people don't speak english there too. BTW i'm in quebec city and it's just a bit smaller but kinda the same thing.
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Nov 2005 09:50 Post subject: |
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i hate multilanguage.. it uses a lot of space.. and english rulz.. like.. in my country ROMANIA(i know that you haven't heard of it).. we learn english since 2nd grade.. that's about when we are 8years old.. i love english.. i like my computer in english.. i LOVE games in english.. they never translate the game in my own language anyway.. why do i need a multilanguage anyway... you lose the feeling of the game when you switch into any than english.. because the animation (where there is lipsync) is made for english.. and any other voices are crap.. just because they aren't made with the same interest as the original.. in my country too as in other i've read about above.. the movies are SUBBED(witch rulz.. cause you can completly ignore them) and enjoy the original ENGLISH movie/series(i don't want to know how LOST sounds in romanian.. or german.. yuck) .. if you are to lazy to learn english u suck.. and if you know english and want mutilanguage you suck more.. if you think you are a patriot and deny anything that isn't in your natal language you are an idiot.. just because you lose a lot of the game's feeling and it doesn't make you more of a patriot(that's loving your country not your language!! )
[url=http://www.tvcafe.ro/lg/1837 ]Bet you don't have the guts to click here!![/url]
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Nov 2005 19:52 Post subject: |
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i'm german but i prefer playing games in english, even if there is an option for german language. no translation will ever come close to the original, some translation are just horrible.
i've seen games where "save game" (to save your career) was translated with "Spiel retten", which means "rescue game". i just can't stand such bad translations. sometimes i think a few developers translate their games with the google language tools...
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Nov 2005 20:08 Post subject: |
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For me it is simple my wife speaks and read France and German
Myself i speak and read German and Inglisch so a multilanguage game is better for both of us becaus i need the game only once if it is not multilanguage twice Inglish and German.
Becaus i hate it to play a game in german
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Dunge
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Nov 2005 01:32 Post subject: |
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All your base are belong to us.
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Nov 2005 15:39 Post subject: |
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I used to work in the gaming industry and whenever we would localize a game to various European countries, the Quality Assurance department (testers) would have to check the languages within the game. WTF? We would be lucky if we had a tester who remembered the French he took in high school! LOL
My point is that it seems like most game publishers (not devs) never outsource to professional translators - OR - they ignore the language bug reports that state that certain nuances are off or plain wrong for the respective language.
It's like if the offices of EA Germany (dunno if there really is one, but...) flag some language bugs, they have to first let EA of USA know since they still have final say on all their games. If they're trying to make a deadline for a specific sales quarter, then they'll have the developers fix the glaring errors and ignore all minor language bugs.
Unfortunately, the European market is an afterthought in the videogames industry. That's why American-made games come to Europe last or the language translation is shoddy. But recent years show that at least the "late release" trend seems to be slowly shifting.
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Supino
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Nov 2005 19:26 Post subject: |
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What do you Americans think of the acting in the newest Need for Speed game?
Is that bad-ass-in-your-face-attitude so populare over there? HAHA, I can just imagine how that would sound translated into Norwegian, Danish or Sweedish!!
Still though. English all the way for me too.
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Tue, 29th Nov 2005 19:28 Post subject: |
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I know it's not always, but mostly... I've only seen few movies that wasn't dubbed to english first
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Dec 2005 18:05 Post subject: |
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I'm from Qubec in canada, so yea I speak french but my OS is in english all the games I play are in english. The only game I would play in french is Splinter Cell, cos it was made in montreal. I dont usually want to play a games translated in french cos I need to improve my english and reading/playing is a good way to do it.
mmm weed...
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deelix
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Dec 2005 09:02 Post subject: |
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i got the answer, spanish, french and gemran people got suxxxx0r english
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Dec 2005 21:37 Post subject: |
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| Red_Thunder wrote: | | The frenchies seem to often wan't a french game, but that's because most of them are just to stubborn to learn english or just refuse to read/speak any english (on vacation anyone?) |
Lol, I am french and i always try to install apps or games in their native language, mostly english, french translations are often lazy and lack of correctness, but in a few european games, like fahrenheit, french voices are sometimes far better for us than the english ones (coz they try to use professional dubbing actors that dub movie stars in french version of movies).
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NeHoMaR
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| Posted: Sat, 3rd Dec 2005 03:44 Post subject: |
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My language is spanish, and it will be my language FOREVER! No matter how good I speak english or any other language, I born speaking spanish, I grew speaking spanish; Why the hell I should prefer another language? All games/applications in spanish are 100% welcome. I don't know if "scene" has a rule about languages, but I think must be mandatory add info about languages included in the info (.nfo) file; So, people won't ask anymore.
I used to be a knee like you. Then I took an adventurer in the arrow.
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