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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 11:21    Post subject:
NFOAC wrote:
This Nvidia Geforce Experience keeps on started at boot even after disabling ?


It will, because its a bloated heap of shit.
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 11:32    Post subject:
Anyways to disable it?
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Stige




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 12:03    Post subject:
Derpvidia lol wut
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Drowning_witch




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 13:32    Post subject:
NFOAC wrote:
Anyways to disable it?


3 seconds of google:

http://www.tweakguides.com/NVFORCE_9.html

basically you'll have to set some services to manual.

but really, unless you are actually using geforce experience, best just uninstall it. I install it when I need shadowplay, and then delete it right away. it's super bloated, taking up 500mb+ of ram even when doing nothing.
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 14:45    Post subject:
Wat. Task manager for me shows <20mb for all nvidia background apps (not just experience) combined.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 15:36    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
Wat. Task manager for me shows <20mb for all nvidia background apps (not just experience) combined.


Maybe i confused it with something else, or exagerated 20ish mb to 500 somehow Laughing
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tolanri




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 17:32    Post subject:
Did anybody try enterprise yet? There should be option to completely disable telemetry and data collection. Is this accessible through GUI, or does it require group policy or regedit tweaks? I'll install it later in VM to verify if it indeed stops sending everything.


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Janz




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 17:34    Post subject:
you can change that values in every windows version, just not via a switch in the gui
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 17:35    Post subject:
Drowning_witch wrote:
consolitis wrote:
Wat. Task manager for me shows <20mb for all nvidia background apps (not just experience) combined.


Maybe i confused it with something else, or exagerated 20ish mb to 500 somehow Laughing


I don't know if I'm doing it wrong or I should use some other program or something but it's actually <10mb now that I see it more carefully Laughing



Personally I can't bother removing or disabling it to gain 10mb back Razz


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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tolanri




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 17:40    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
you can change that values in every windows version, just not via a switch in the gui


Yes, there was option in enterprise through gpedit from rtm, and you could tweak it through regedit even in other editions. But in this fall update they should have added option to fully disable telemetry and data collection. Do they mean completely new setting, or it's same setting as before update, but this time it works, for real? Laughing
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Drowning_witch




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 18:28    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
Drowning_witch wrote:
consolitis wrote:
Wat. Task manager for me shows <20mb for all nvidia background apps (not just experience) combined.


Maybe i confused it with something else, or exagerated 20ish mb to 500 somehow Laughing


I don't know if I'm doing it wrong or I should use some other program or something but it's actually <10mb now that I see it more carefully Laughing



Personally I can't bother removing or disabling it to gain 10mb back Razz


I'll check later once I install it again. like I said maybe I made a mistake, but somehow I keep thinking one of the processes took like 250mb for me. I recall checking whilst inside dirt rally, as I was fiddling with shadowplay quality. maybe when it hooks into a game, usage rises.

you using the latest offical or beta?
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DV2




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 18:30    Post subject:
Any news or chances when the MVLS team gives us an up to date W10 ISO?...


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consolitis
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 19:12    Post subject:
Drowning_witch wrote:
consolitis wrote:
Drowning_witch wrote:


Maybe i confused it with something else, or exagerated 20ish mb to 500 somehow Laughing


I don't know if I'm doing it wrong or I should use some other program or something but it's actually <10mb now that I see it more carefully Laughing



Personally I can't bother removing or disabling it to gain 10mb back Razz


I'll check later once I install it again. like I said maybe I made a mistake, but somehow I keep thinking one of the processes took like 250mb for me. I recall checking whilst inside dirt rally, as I was fiddling with shadowplay quality. maybe when it hooks into a game, usage rises.

you using the latest offical or beta?


My drivers' version is in the screenshot Razz

This is a laptop and probably doesn't support ShadowPlay, but it's not like I ever enable that even on my desktop so in my case it should make no difference.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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thudo




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 19:41    Post subject:
Frick'n helll HOW MANY NVIDIA processes/services are running? 10?!?!? Shocked Bloat sh*t! Under W7 got em down to Four so when I get my super-laptop with W10 Pro that shat ain't gonna get real man! Mad


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Janz




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 19:44    Post subject:
mimimi?




sry couldnt resist ^^
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edweird13




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 19:49    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
Any news or chances when the MVLS team gives us an up to date W10 ISO?...

Still not there Sad
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Drowning_witch




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 20:01    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:


This is a laptop and probably doesn't support ShadowPlay, but it's not like I ever enable that even on my desktop so in my case it should make no difference.


i meant gf xperience version, you can download that separately from geforce.com.

so what exactly are you using gfe for if not shadowplay?

thudo wrote:
Frick'n helll HOW MANY NVIDIA processes/services are running? 10?!?!? Shocked Bloat sh*t! Under W7 got em down to Four so when I get my super-laptop with W10 Pro that shat ain't gonna get real man! Mad


only 3 on win 10 with just a driver install using up 4.5mb ram all together.
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 20:47    Post subject:
I am using the version bundled with the driver version you see in the screenshot.

And I am not actively using Geforce Experience for anything at all.

You said it's best to remove it if you don't use it because by merely being installed ("even when doing nothing" as you said) it uses 500mb of RAM. I showed you that in my system it uses <10mb (~10mb is the total of all nvidia services, not just Geforce Experience).

That's all.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 21:22    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
I am using the version bundled with the driver version you see in the screenshot.

And I am not actively using Geforce Experience for anything at all.

You said it's best to remove it if you don't use it because by merely being installed ("even when doing nothing" as you said) it uses 500mb of RAM. I showed you that in my system it uses <10mb (~10mb is the total of all nvidia services, not just Geforce Experience).

That's all.


why dont u custom install the drivers on setup instead of letting it install all the shit you say you are not using anyhow? I do not see your logic at all here. Laughing
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thudo




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 21:58    Post subject:
Drowning_witch wrote:
only 3 on win 10 with just a driver install using up 4.5mb ram all together.
Hmmm so you stopped/denied the rest of those as more than 4 services/processes for the display driver seems excessive bloat. Something I'm gonna be watching for when the new lappy shows up.


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consolitis
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 22:01    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
consolitis wrote:
I am using the version bundled with the driver version you see in the screenshot.

And I am not actively using Geforce Experience for anything at all.

You said it's best to remove it if you don't use it because by merely being installed ("even when doing nothing" as you said) it uses 500mb of RAM. I showed you that in my system it uses <10mb (~10mb is the total of all nvidia services, not just Geforce Experience).

That's all.


why dont u custom install the drivers on setup instead of letting it install all the shit you say you are not using anyhow? I do not see your logic at all here. Laughing


I do custom install the drivers, always!, and deselect HDMI audio and 3D vision stuff because I don't have the equipment for those and I would never ever be able to use them. Geforce experience I might one day use it for Shadowplay or who the hell knows for what else. I haven't but one day I might.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 22:46    Post subject:
thudo wrote:
Drowning_witch wrote:
only 3 on win 10 with just a driver install using up 4.5mb ram all together.
Hmmm so you stopped/denied the rest of those as more than 4 services/processes for the display driver seems excessive bloat. Something I'm gonna be watching for when the new lappy shows up.


nope, if you install just the driver+phsyx, that's what happens. not touching services or anything.

the extra bloat is all from geforce experience and other stuff they bundle with the drivers.
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 22:53    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
I am using the version bundled with the driver version you see in the screenshot.

And I am not actively using Geforce Experience for anything at all.

You said it's best to remove it if you don't use it because by merely being installed ("even when doing nothing" as you said) it uses 500mb of RAM. I showed you that in my system it uses <10mb (~10mb is the total of all nvidia services, not just Geforce Experience).

That's all.


this is what i'm talking about. 500 was an exageration. adding up all the nvidia processes I saw running with geforce experience opened (some or not visible), and not used at all=281mb

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consolitis
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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2015 00:00    Post subject:
But if you open it, it means you want to use it so it's a necessary evil! Why would you open it and leave it open at that if you don't want to do something with it?

If you don't open it, like me because so far I haven't found a use for it but still install it because why not, the footprint is smaller than Windows' calculator app. Razz


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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Drowning_witch




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2015 00:58    Post subject:
Yeah, i was just making sure I wasn't going crazy.

but still, 250mb for just opening it.

a browser with several tabs uses less. steam is 40mb. they can do better than 250mb.


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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2015 02:53    Post subject:
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a browser with several tabs uses less. steam is 40mb. they can do better than 250mb.


Really?

http://prntscr.com/92iv10
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2015 03:27    Post subject:
I was quite peckish for a moment, but now I feel all bloated. Not a nice 'experience' I can tell you, Nvidia!
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2015 03:35    Post subject:
scaramonga wrote:
I was quite peckish for a moment, but now I feel all bloated. Not a nice 'experience' I can tell you, Nvidia!


lol Very Happy

I just removed firefox public and installed developer version seems I don't have memory leak issues stays at 197mb now no matter what I am doing for most part.
well when im watching live skynews etc it dont increase constantly.
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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2015 11:02    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
Quote:

a browser with several tabs uses less. steam is 40mb. they can do better than 250mb.


Really?

http://prntscr.com/92iv10


your fault for using a crap browser. Very Happy

opera with 4 tabs opes uses about the same as just opening nvidia experience.

scaramonga wrote:
I was quite peckish for a moment, but now I feel all bloated. Not a nice 'experience' I can tell you, Nvidia!


Aww Yeah
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Drowning_witch




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2015 12:48    Post subject:
I have one cannoying issue since the update though.

Freaking icons keep resetting positions. can't seem to find any fixes online that apply to me.

For example, starting up gzdoom, which i'm playing in 4k DSR, the My computer icon keeps being moved into a different position, and it does it every single time i start the game. but if i manually move the icon anywhere other than the top left where I usually keep it, it stays there Are You Serious

And even creating custom resolutions in nvidia cpanel, after the settings were reset by the update, messed up all of my icons completely. previously that only happened when installing new drivers when the resolution would change during the time no drivers were installed.

I'm guessing that's a side effects of being on an upgraded installation.


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