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crossmr
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| AnarchoS wrote: | | crossmr wrote: | I had a USB bootable tool that did some read write tests and checked the whole surface of the drive when I was having trouble with a drive before..not sure if I still have it.
It's still jammed at 45%. There is definitely some damaged to this drive. I doubt bethesda gonna buy me a new one. |
Try running hdd regenerator, I remember when I had a problem with one of my drives with bad sectors (over 2000 of them) ran this software once it fixed all of them, I use the drive now for a year and no hickup yet.
http://www.dposoft.net/hdd.html |
I'll give that a shot. But if it doesn't work, I'll just order a new one. Western Digital seems to be okay from what I just read, I can get this one "WD 2TB BLUE WD20EZRZ" for a decent price here.
okay..maybe I won't try that.. $99? I can get a new HD for $80. I'll think about that one.
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crossmr
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 11:26 Post subject: |
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| DCB wrote: | https://www.backblaze.com/blog/a-look-at-backblazes-toshiba-hard-drives/
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-stats-for-q2-2015/
It seems like Hitachi (HGST) drives are pretty good these days. They are owned by Western Digital, but I assume they are still producing their drives independently. If your choice is Toshiba, WD, or Seagate, I'd go for a WD personally. |
thanks. I'm moving the game back to another drive with space on it to make sure it's fine, and then I'll probably order up a new one. don't want to risk anything with my pictures folder.
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demde
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 11:35 Post subject: |
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Don't know if Seagate is bad, but my 0.5 TB Seagate is running over 6 years now. Still no bad sectors or anything yet. And that dive saw crazy amount of read/write, because before i took 128 GB SSD for the OS it was the only drive i had. Maybe their 1-2 TB versions are bad or something.
@crossmr
I really doubt the game fucked up the HDD (if its fucked up at all).
IMO you should run hiren's bood cd with bootable disk/flash drive to checkout for bad sectors
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harry_theone
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 12:44 Post subject: |
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AnarchoS
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 13:03 Post subject: |
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| crossmr wrote: | | AnarchoS wrote: | | crossmr wrote: | I had a USB bootable tool that did some read write tests and checked the whole surface of the drive when I was having trouble with a drive before..not sure if I still have it.
It's still jammed at 45%. There is definitely some damaged to this drive. I doubt bethesda gonna buy me a new one. |
Try running hdd regenerator, I remember when I had a problem with one of my drives with bad sectors (over 2000 of them) ran this software once it fixed all of them, I use the drive now for a year and no hickup yet.
http://www.dposoft.net/hdd.html |
I'll give that a shot. But if it doesn't work, I'll just order a new one. Western Digital seems to be okay from what I just read, I can get this one "WD 2TB BLUE WD20EZRZ" for a decent price here.
okay..maybe I won't try that.. $99? I can get a new HD for $80. I'll think about that one. |
be careful and don't buy any of variable speed drives (Green, red, purple, scalability), if you really want a reliable HDD buy a WD black or raid black edition, they cost more but if you have data that you don't want to loose, few bucks now will save some headakes later.
I always used WD drives never lost a byte of data, well I did have problem with WD green drive once but never lost any data, never used raid.
I remember when all we had was a floppy disk, to write the data on.  Monocrome orange and green monitors, CGA was a luxury.
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harry_theone
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 13:23 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 13:29 Post subject: |
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crossmr
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 13:40 Post subject: |
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| demde wrote: | Don't know if Seagate is bad, but my 0.5 TB Seagate is running over 6 years now. Still no bad sectors or anything yet. And that dive saw crazy amount of read/write, because before i took 128 GB SSD for the OS it was the only drive i had. Maybe their 1-2 TB versions are bad or something.
@crossmr
I really doubt the game fucked up the HDD (if its fucked up at all).
IMO you should run hiren's bood cd with bootable disk/flash drive to checkout for bad sectors |
It's definitely messed up. The hard drive is basically used for nothing else, and haven't been doing much with my pictures since I installed FO4. So the only thing that's been running on that drive is FO4. Load time went from a few seconds to like 5 minutes, the game is completely messed up, and even going into a folder in my pictures is pretty bad. Takes a long time to load any thumbnails and opening a picture which was instant, now takes a few seconds. It's clear something is wrong with the device.
edit: just loaded it up after copying it over to the other drive. perfectly fine. Save loads in about 5 seconds, and no stuttering.
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crossmr
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 13:43 Post subject: |
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| AnarchoS wrote: | | crossmr wrote: | | AnarchoS wrote: |
Try running hdd regenerator, I remember when I had a problem with one of my drives with bad sectors (over 2000 of them) ran this software once it fixed all of them, I use the drive now for a year and no hickup yet.
http://www.dposoft.net/hdd.html |
I'll give that a shot. But if it doesn't work, I'll just order a new one. Western Digital seems to be okay from what I just read, I can get this one "WD 2TB BLUE WD20EZRZ" for a decent price here.
okay..maybe I won't try that.. $99? I can get a new HD for $80. I'll think about that one. |
be careful and don't buy any of variable speed drives (Green, red, purple, scalability), if you really want a reliable HDD buy a WD black or raid black edition, they cost more but if you have data that you don't want to loose, few bucks now will save some headakes later.
I always used WD drives never lost a byte of data, well I did have problem with WD green drive once but never lost any data, never used raid.
I remember when all we had was a floppy disk, to write the data on. Monocrome orange and green monitors, CGA was a luxury. |
Me too, my first machine was an 8088 with 5.25" floppies. Loved that thing. We did start with a CGA though. I'll probably get the blue, it seems sufficient, I've got 3 seagates in my machine now. It looks like I might have bought this drive in April. About 7 months ago.. I think I could get warranty on it, but then I'd still have a seagate. I've looked at some failure numbers on them now and they're pretty bad.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 13:56 Post subject: |
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Well, it is little offtopic but I remember one of the Splintercell games had Starforce and there was app smth like StarForceKiller. I run this great app and my HDD died. Don't know why and how. And I've got only Seagate drivers for last like 20 years and they are all OK.
Anyways... on F4 - I am going to buy F4 as soon as CK/GECK will get released. Some great mods will come after for sure. Maybe it will be cheaper by then. For game with such small map it is damn expensive. Like 50% more expansive than W3 and look how big map was there.
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Hey dont be so hard the little console eunuchs, they need time to aim their lil vibratin thumbstick.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 14:01 Post subject: |
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Star-Force back in it's day replaced system drivers and interfered with IDE connections and much more so it's a wonder it didn't break more than it did.
(Plus like SecuROM and Tages back then it was almost at a root-kit level of deep integration with files you couldn't remove and hidden registry strings.)
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 14:18 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 18:33 Post subject: |
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I'm level 26, and I'm done I think. This game has a severe lack of proper lore, humor and surprise. Everything is extremely predictable, I feel like I'm playing the same game I played years before, only upgraded. It's a damn shame they finally figured out they can't recycle shit in the gamworld, yet fucked up a lot of other things. I know people say this game is made for exploring (like all Beth games), but what exactly is the point? I feel like I already explored this gameworld, so damn predictable.
Missions were pretty dull IMO, it's basically go there and find/kill that. I care nothing for the factions, predictable. I care nothing for the characters (mayb Velantine), predictable. You know how my romance with Piper went? "hey blue you sexy" -> flirt -> romance? -> sexy time. Da fuck is that? Maybe I've played too many Bethesda games by now, they haven't evolved properly for years. There's a lot of content, I applaud them for that, but it's all soulless. I really liked Skyrim, this is a step backwards.
I won't need to repeat they turned this game in a shooter with even less RPG, everyone can see that.
At level 26, not done with the main mission (though I read it's not anything special): 7.5/10.
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Neon
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 18:35 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | I'm level 26, and I'm done I think. This game has a severe lack of proper lore, humor and surprise. Everything is extremely predictable, I feel like I'm playing the same game I played years before, only upgraded. It's a damn shame they finally figured out they can't recycle shit in the gamworld, yet fucked up a lot of other things. I know people say this game is made for exploring (like all Beth games), but what exactly is the point? I feel like I already explored this gameworld, so damn predictable.
Missions were pretty dull IMO, it's basically go there and find/kill that. I care nothing for the factions, predictable. I care nothing for the characters (mayb Velantine), predictable. You know how my romance with Piper went? "hey blue you sexy" -> flirt -> romance? -> sexy time. Da fuck is that? Maybe I've played too many Bethesda games by now, they haven't evolved properly for years. There's a lot of content, I applaud them for that, but it's all soulless. I really liked Skyrim, this is a step backwards.
I won't need to repeat they turned this game in a shooter with even less RPG, everyone can see that.
At level 26, not done with the main mission (though I read it's not anything special): 7.5/10. |
Pretty much this, even though I'm level 46, 54 hours in.
Skyrim is a much better game overall.
Valentine is great though. 
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 18:37 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | I'm level 26, and I'm done I think. This game has a severe lack of proper lore, humor and surprise. Everything is extremely predictable, I feel like I'm playing the same game I played years before, only upgraded. It's a damn shame they finally figured out they can't recycle shit in the gamworld, yet fucked up a lot of other things. I know people say this game is made for exploring (like all Beth games), but what exactly is the point? I feel like I already explored this gameworld, so damn predictable.
Missions were pretty dull IMO, it's basically go there and find/kill that. I care nothing for the factions, predictable. I care nothing for the characters (mayb Velantine), predictable. You know how my romance with Piper went? "hey blue you sexy" -> flirt -> romance? -> sexy time. Da fuck is that? Maybe I've played too many Bethesda games by now, they haven't evolved properly for years. There's a lot of content, I applaud them for that, but it's all soulless. I really liked Skyrim, this is a step backwards.
I won't need to repeat they turned this game in a shooter with even less RPG, everyone can see that.
At level 26, not done with the main mission (though I read it's not anything special): 7.5/10. |
The exploration part I don't get. Since it's not like a lot of these areas have any real reward. A safe containing useless guns isn't really appealing.
They also rely too much on having places tell stories via terminals. It's just not very appealing.
Engine has to go.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 18:40 Post subject: |
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| AKofC wrote: |
The tone of the game was set when 15 minutes after the intro sequence of the game you're decked out in power armor and have just killed a deathclaw. |
Why do people make such a huge deal out of that? I thought it was clever to give players a taste of what the power armor is like and you do need the power cores to use it + by default it isn't all that good until you upgrade it. The chain gun was a bigger "mistake" compared to the power armor but since it eats tons of ammo, it's a pretty meh weapon anyway.
I think a bigger beef of mine, is that they kinda screwed up the VAT balance - it's pointless now to use VAT - even sniping rifles get a pretty bad %-to-hit score compared to manual aiming when the enemy is not that close. I pretty much only use VAT in tense and close encounters where I want to get several quick shots in.
But, one point I do agree with that was made earlier, is that Bethesda has kinda given up trying to have a realistic world. FO3 at least tried to keep up appearances but in FO4 it feels as if the war was only 50 years before instead of 200. Too much stuff is in great condition - the cars are in far better condition than they were in FO3 for example. Also, still having tables and parasols at the beach with bottles and stuff is pretty dumb - it wouldn't have taken more than a year for all that to get washed away.
Personally I'd really love a mod that tweaks the world to be more in keeping with how long ago the bombs fell. More devastated cars, no more edible produce locked away in places that have been abandoned for centuries, no easy-to-find loot in open places, etc. Basically, make it feel more like a lived-in-world where people have been scavenging, where stuff like Nuka Cola bottles aren't to be found in street-vending machines.
I love games like STALKER that really do their universe justice but it kinda disappoints me that Bethesda has given up on trying to make the world feel "right" for its setting.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 18:40 Post subject: |
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If they change the engine, one can expect to have much lesser freedom with the mods, configs and console commands.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 19:00 Post subject: |
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| crossmr wrote: | | AnarchoS wrote: | | crossmr wrote: | I had a USB bootable tool that did some read write tests and checked the whole surface of the drive when I was having trouble with a drive before..not sure if I still have it.
It's still jammed at 45%. There is definitely some damaged to this drive. I doubt bethesda gonna buy me a new one. |
Try running hdd regenerator, I remember when I had a problem with one of my drives with bad sectors (over 2000 of them) ran this software once it fixed all of them, I use the drive now for a year and no hickup yet.
http://www.dposoft.net/hdd.html |
I'll give that a shot. But if it doesn't work, I'll just order a new one. Western Digital seems to be okay from what I just read, I can get this one "WD 2TB BLUE WD20EZRZ" for a decent price here.
okay..maybe I won't try that.. $99? I can get a new HD for $80. I'll think about that one. |
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"HDD Regenerator 1.71 Full - (Repair bad sectors of your HD)"
Just had a 500GB WD die on me last month. Spinning up and down constantly. Lasted 2500 days.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 19:10 Post subject: |
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| Bob Barnsen wrote: | | If they change the engine, one can expect to have much lesser freedom with the mods, configs and console commands. |
Yep, also much less chances that modders will fix/finish their games. |
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 20:15 Post subject: |
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To chime in on the FO4 hate that I happen to absolutely agree with: last night I had enough of the 1-2 fps "performance" I was getting in the area of DC, so I fired up Fallout 3 instead. With the FWE mod.
My oh my, I've been having a blast ever since. The atmosphere is brilliant, especially compared to the 4th instalment.
| Frant wrote: | | Shitass games are ruining piracy. |
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harry_theone
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 20:22 Post subject: |
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| m3th0d2008 wrote: |
A taste? I had 2 power cores when i jumped in and "almost" every marked location of the map has at least 1 core. |
No, not really.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 20:28 Post subject: |
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| blackeyedboy wrote: | | Bob Barnsen wrote: | | If they change the engine, one can expect to have much lesser freedom with the mods, configs and console commands. |
Yep, also much less chances that modders will fix/finish their games. |
The esp/esm file system that makes modding so viable isn't something exclusive to gamebryo, they could port that system to other engines if they had the desire.
We are talking Bethesda though who are extremely lazy at the best of times. |
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 20:35 Post subject: |
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are you guys roleplaying fallout by talking about mechanical drives, since SSD tech died out after the apocalypse or what? 
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 20:42 Post subject: |
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I can't drag myself to play anymore; the exploration was fine until i had enough of raider strongholds, mutant strongholds, base building, base defending,and same old places filled with generic loot. Some other important ingredients of a good RPG - like interesting story, unique characters you grow attached to - are sorely lacking. Hell. i'm 50+ hours in game and can't remember most of my companions names, except Curie for some reason.
The FNV:Old World Blues DLC by itself was better than the whole F4.
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no9999
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StEFaN7
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Nov 2015 21:47 Post subject: |
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finished with the game...the more i played it, the more i hated it lol, also my first bethesda game and maybe my last. it was a 9/10 at first but in the end it's a 7 at most. such a big downgrade after witcher 3
also the loading screens lol what a big fucking mess this game is. this had to be like the first priority for bethesda to remove them and make a seamless transition just like rocksteady did with arkham knight or other current games. halfway through the game i stopped entering new buildings couse of that
I can see your soul at the edges of your eyes..
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