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3dcViper




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Nov 2015 13:57    Post subject:
oh man there is more and i linked the ATV and another article.

Perhaps you can use google too? Its not that complicated Wink
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Nov 2015 13:59    Post subject:
3dcViper wrote:
Perhaps you can use google too? Its not that complicated Wink


The onus is on the claimant. You made claims that you should then backup with facts when requested Wink And, as I have said multiple times, whenever *I* "google" for something.. the facts I retrieve don't match your claims. But hey Wink Either way, I appreciate you posting the ATV episode that deals with this.. I'll watch it and see if they specifically detail theft and ship ownership.
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3dcViper




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Nov 2015 14:04    Post subject:
i stated facts.. what do you want? Calm down please.

Its a fact that the there will be no easy "stealing" in the PU. You will have to "work" for it if you want to steal a ship. If the owner is on board, he can counter the hacking too.

Big ships will not be an easy "stealing" object.... but smaller ships that costs less, will not as difficult to hack and steal.

The problem with this "open" development is, that the amout of informations are extremly high. Its very, very difficult to search for a specific interview or sentence.
You have to trust a little bit... Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Nov 2015 14:06    Post subject:
I'm completely calm and telling me to calm down regardless is just a cunt move =) I merely asked for a source for the claims of hacking and harder theft in the game, you then told me to "trust you" without posting any details. It took repeated requests until you finally posted an official source, and which I thanked you for Smile
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3dcViper




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Nov 2015 14:13    Post subject:
i already posted the sources before i wrote "calm down".. seems like you didnt read everything in the post Wink

The thing is, that most things are not 100% fixed while in development. Most of the things are plans and not done until now.

So you must have a little bit of trust.... without it, it wont work Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Nov 2015 14:18    Post subject:
http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2824953#2824953 No source.
http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2824986#2824986 No source.
http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2824988#2824988 German fan page with no source. Though you did add the ATV, and I thanked you for it, though still remarked on the lack of concrete information regarding ship stealing for which you keep claiming to have knowledge of.
http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2824990#2824990 Same description of GOST that doesn't detail anything you previously described.

And no, I'm sorry, but trust has to be earned and I don't trust your motives or your stance regarding the game. Time and again you've shown to be deeply biased towards the game and won't brook any criticism or complaint.

Once again, and for the last time, thank you for the ATV video and timeframe.. it mentions "game state will check if keycard is held" so, again, thank you. That at least shows me ship theft won't be as easy as "press E to enter" and stealing someone's ship though it doesn't do much to allay my concerns over what will eventually be used solely for griefing and trolling. Seeing the babyPU video of someone gaffawing as they steal ships just made me uncomfortable, though I'm happy to hear it will be harder in the full game.
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Nov 2015 14:25    Post subject:
About "hacking" (what is needed for stealing ships):

http://imperialnews.network/2015/09/inntrospective-september-13-19/

- You will be able to blow up another players ship via hacking, trigger its self-destruct. But you’ll ‘have to risk your own ass to do so’. The game will give preference to the defence.
- EWAR hacking will take time. You’ll have to spike the target (in a dogfight, likely), and then hack it.
- Hacking gameplay is still a Work in Progress, but it sounds like different components of ships will be able to be hacked.
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3dcViper




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Nov 2015 14:42    Post subject:
As i said several times sabin1981, I dont defend the game at all. There are many, many problems the development has faced and will face in the future. If you are sceptical, i can understand this. If you are not interessted, i can understand this. I only invested 35 dollar in the game... and i will not invest more as long as the Multiplayer Universe does not go into beta or Squadron 42 will be released.
CIG has to deliver "more" of the game until i think about investing more. PTU 2.0 is the first step but right now.. the version on PTU 2.0 is not really "release-ready" at all.. its one hell of a bug Sad

For example, i dont understand why so many people invest 200, 300 oder more dollar into the game right now.. i dont understand why so many people want to have 5 or more ships right now....

The only thing i do is read summaries of the articles, interviews and videos that http://imperialnews.network/ creates from the official informations.
This way i have a good general view over the project. I can gather the information very fast. That would not be possible if i would watch every video and every interview as those can be long and filled with much, much pointless content. If i would watch every video.. lol... i would be sitting for days and days.. no thanks Very Happy

One of the problems is, that people who are only good informed and try to communicate those informations are called "fanboy" very very fast. I dont like this and think, doing this is wrong.

Its not aboult defending the game.. its about communication of the missing information. Wink
I hope this makes several things more clear. Cool
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bart5986




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Nov 2015 14:50    Post subject:
Honestly the game is looking quite good.

If they added auto generation of planets, and a poorly designed bulletin board for missions they would almost be on par with Elite Dangerous.



Does anyone know if they will have Australian servers?


If they only have US servers most of us won't be able to play properly.
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Nov 2015 14:58    Post subject:
3dcViper wrote:
As i said several times sabin1981, I dont defend the game at all. There are many, many problems the development has faced and will face in the future. If you are sceptical, i can understand this. If you are not interessted, i can understand this. I only invested 35 dollar in the game... and i will not invest more as long as the Multiplayer Universe does not go into beta or Squadron 42 will be released.
CIG has to deliver "more" of the game until i think about investing more. PTU 2.0 is the first step but right now.. the version on PTU 2.0 is not really "release-ready" at all.. its one hell of a bug Sad

For example, i dont understand why so many people invest 200, 300 oder more dollar into the game right now.. i dont understand why so many people want to have 5 or more ships right now....

The only thing i do is read summaries of the articles, interviews and videos that http://imperialnews.network/ creates from the official informations.
This way i have a good general view over the project. I can gather the information very fast. That would not be possible if i would watch every video and every interview as those can be long and filled with much, much pointless content. If i would watch every video.. lol... i would be sitting for days and days.. no thanks Very Happy


You know something? This is the only post you've made so far where I've sat and actually agreed and understood your stance.
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3dcViper




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Nov 2015 14:59    Post subject:
Right now only US and EU Servers are confirmed.

Australian Servers.. mh... good question. Perhaps there will be a combination from australia and Japan/China/Korea?

Would be a good question for 10ftC.
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3dcViper




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Nov 2015 15:08    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
You know something? This is the only post you've made so far where I've sat and actually agreed and understood your stance.

i always thought, that our view of the game is not that far away. The only difference between us are two things:

- information... seems like i follow the development of the game much more regulary compared to you
- i dont tend to use sarcasm and irony - things you really really like

But the overal viewpoint.. is not that different Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Nov 2015 15:13    Post subject:
Oh I'm full of sarcasm and irony, no doubt about that grinhurt And, like you comment about not watching every video and reading every article is pretty much how I deal with it too, I simply can't stomach dozens of hour long gushing videos promising the universe and everything in it, or promoting the next sale - I'd rather have absolute facts, something that isn't likely to change just because they realised they overreached. My trust for the project is already at an all-time low as it is.
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Nov 2015 15:30    Post subject:
So... Peace Pipe? Very Happy



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3dcViper




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Nov 2015 15:33    Post subject:
Ah the picture for the peace pipe doesnt work... an i searched so long for it Sad

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DCB




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Nov 2015 15:37    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
bart5986 wrote:
Does anyone know if they will have Australian servers?


Aww Yeah

There will be one, but it will be shut down a month after it launches and everyone on it will be merged into the US server/s.
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Nov 2015 15:54    Post subject:
DCB wrote:
Interinactive wrote:
bart5986 wrote:
Does anyone know if they will have Australian servers?


Aww Yeah

There will be one, but it will be shut down a month after it launches and everyone on it will be merged into the US server/s.


With a $14.99 transfer fee.

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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Nov 2015 19:31    Post subject:
Well then. Thanks to Interinactive , I've had a chance to play it for a few hours.
Played on high settings in the hangar, 60 FPS @1080p with the rig in the signature.

The game and me, we had a rocky start. I'm in the hangar, trying to not throw up because my character is evidently a drunken sailor. It's as if he's a bobble head. Made it difficult to appreciate how nice everything looks.
Anyway, I climb into the ship and while there I decide to unplug my headset and the game froze Laughing But whatever.

I go through the tutorials first and everything was looking great until I turned too sharply once and everything went dark...
Who in their right mind thinks g force would be good in a game like this? If that persists in the single player, I guarantee it'll be the first thing modded out. Since when did RSI decide they're making a simulator? It just takes the fun out of dogfights Neutral

After that I went into free flight to get used to flying and explore a bit which was difficult since 2 minutes couldn't pass without someone shooting at me or ramming into me. Without private servers this game will be a nightmare.
I have zero knowledge of game development so I won't comment on whether such variable FPS during combat and flying is only temporary or it can be fixed.

Having now played it, I'm not convinced that it'll fail as a game or turn out to be the best thing since bread came sliced. The best thing to do is to wait, hell, ignore the game until RSI officially say that the game/specific part of the game is done.

Till then I'm gonna go see if I can still replay Freelancer.

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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Nov 2015 19:34    Post subject:
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I go through the tutorials first and everything was looking great until I turned too sharply once and everything went dark...
Who in their right mind thinks g force would be good in a game like this? If that persists in the single player, I guarantee it'll be the first thing modded out. Since when did RSI decide they're making a simulator? It just takes the fun out of dogfights Neutral


Welcome to my world. I *detest* the goddamn bullshit g-force mechanic and I genuinely want to cause physical injury to the Committee of Fanatics that cheer for it. As for when they decided they were making a simulator? Um.. day 1? SC has always been a simulator, sadly, so everything is "realistic" flight model, "realistic" ungainly lurching in FPS, "realistic" blacking out when you turn your head.

Again, sadly.
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Nov 2015 18:26    Post subject:
I wonder how that lawsuit against The Escapist is coming along. Troll Dad
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Nov 2015 19:22    Post subject:
vaifan1986 wrote:

Having now played it, I'm not convinced that it'll fail as a game or turn out to be the best thing since bread came sliced. The best thing to do is to wait, hell, ignore the game until RSI officially say that the game/specific part of the game is done.


Very wise words Very Happy would save many people so much wasted time.
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Nov 2015 19:26    Post subject:
@sabin1981 Realistic smoke clouds in space, hooray! Laughing

G-Force, such fun gettin unconscious
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Dec 2015 13:06    Post subject:
Can't put my finger on, but in these trailers there's always something amateurish, floaty going on. Be it a scene, animation, shot angle... always something off.

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3dcViper




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Dec 2015 13:40    Post subject:
Yes.. its not a big extremly posed trailer where every scene is done 50 times to get the best shoot.
Those trailers are really only a cut of several gameplayscenes. Thats the reason why it "look" a little bit amateurish.

I like it this way more. I think this way it is more honest then those trailers from other companies that only use the best scenes and edit them to perfect perfection.

But i have on big negativ point:
The trailer is too fast. The cuts are to hectic and fast. In some Cuts you cant really see whats happening. Thats not good....
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Dec 2015 13:59    Post subject:
harry_theone wrote:
@sabin1981 Realistic smoke clouds in space, hooray! Laughing

G-Force, such fun gettin unconscious


Jeebus, they were actually cheering that!

That would annoy the hell out of me.

Think I'll stick to my ten quid Elite Dangerous!
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