Starforce Solution That Works (even With King Kong)
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sbaq
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2005 21:37    Post subject: Starforce Solution That Works (even With King Kong)
OK Guys, i now that i will cost you at least a 20 bucks, but it works without even removing your optical Drives!!!!

Buy you an IDE/Raid Controller with SiliconImage 0680 Chipset and install your Optical Drives on that controller.

All Starforce Games and Stubbs are woriking without SFcure/SFnightmare or remove you drives!!!!


An that all for less than 20 Bucks, what do you want??

A good Solutions for Starforce for 1 year or longer and its easy mount with DT4 reboot and play!!!!!
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jaapie18




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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2005 21:48    Post subject:
But must it be anIDE/Raid Controller from SiliconImage or is an other brand good too
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Crusher




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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2005 21:55    Post subject:
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jaapie18




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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2005 22:04    Post subject:
Crusher

Good for optical drives:
Cards based on silicon image chipset
Cards based ITE chipset
The controller included in the southbridge/chipset on your mainbord.

what do they mean with this The controller included in the southbridge/chipset on your mainbord.


i see this on in a webshop in holland.

Sunsway/ST Lab PCI ATA133 2P , Silicon Image chip

Does this one also support dvd-players and such.
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Frant
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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Dec 2005 22:20    Post subject:
Buy a motherboard based on the nForce3 chipset.. Don't know if it's the same with nForce4...


Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!

"Thank you to God for making me an Atheist" - Ricky Gervais
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Drvre




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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Dec 2005 22:55    Post subject:
Scyphe, you're joking, right? We went from buying USB adapters,to PCI IDE controllers, and now motherboards?

jaapie18 - for you to have a RAID array (which is the purpose of the PCI IDE controllers that support RAID) there are 2 ways: there are onboard integrated solutions and there are addon cards. The chip that manages RAID arrays are often the same in both solutions, for example in the old nForce 2 motherboards there was IDE RAID done by IT8212 chip, the same that I have in my PCI IDE controller. You can look at this matter the same way with sound cards, video cards...there are crappy integrated solutions and there are more efficient addon cards (but that depends on the chip used). I have an ITE 8212 based PCI ATA controller and it seems it doesn't support optical drives (the card's bios doesn't support ATAPI devices, maybe they fixed it in later versions). My advice to you : buy an IDE to USB bridge,I did, it's more convenient, supports hot swap etc. The addon controller solution is for people who allready have it.
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T.Azure




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 00:06    Post subject:
Scyphe wrote:
Buy a motherboard based on the nForce3 chipset.. Don't know if it's the same with nForce4...

Same with nForce4 Very Happy
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madness




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 00:08    Post subject:
I have nforce4 and didn't get king kong to work..
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proddan




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 00:57    Post subject:
SF3 is indeed a pain in the ass ! But I am one of the lucky one . So far I had no problems with sf3 games I only use starforce /disable node etcc and run game ! The strange thing is that my co-worker has almost the same rigg as I exept his soundcard

I use SB live2 and he onboard .
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QuazzieM




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 01:01    Post subject:
How do people get these games to work with NF4 boards.. I have a GB-K8NXP-SLI

2xSATA hdrive in raid 0
1xdvdrom/cd-r combo on master/IDE2
1xdvd burner on master/IDE1

I mount in DY4 and it askes for the cd to be inserted

WTF.. what am i doin wrong
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QuazzieM




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 01:50    Post subject:
Ok now I got kn freakin idea...

I've turned on all raid option in my bios
I 've tried to run SFN but when I go to 'disable ATA' my puter locks..
I've even unplugged my power cables to the cd/dvd drives and still nohtin (except for som strange reason my puter reboots itself)

In device Manager..
under IDE/ATAPI Controllers I have..

'nVidia Nforce4 ADMA Controler' which is the SATA hdrives
'nVidia nForce4 Parrallel ATA Controler' which is the cdburner and dvd burner


Any1?? pls
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PoorLeno




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 02:42    Post subject:
lol Quazzie, you are missing the point. The point, is that there are some IDE conrollers there (which support RAID, though RAID has nothing to do with the 'solution), that you can connect your IDE optical drives to, and not care about SF.


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QuazzieM




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 03:45    Post subject:
PoorLeno wrote:
lol Quazzie, you are missing the point. The point, is that there are some IDE conrollers there (which support RAID, though RAID has nothing to do with the 'solution), that you can connect your IDE optical drives to, and not care about SF.


Ok.. but do know what I can do to get the game to work??
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 03:47    Post subject:
Here's a good solution -

BUY THE GAME

It works.
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QuazzieM




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 05:04    Post subject:
ahh.. i would if it was out here.. but thats not so foranother 3 weeks.. besides i like to try them first.. they cost like 95dollars here

and oooh.. yea. thanks that help me heaps
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waltgill




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 05:08    Post subject:
bought a ide /raid controller today...
all starforce games work now without doing anything ........HOORAY
only problem is i have to copy image to hd first to play
if not the pc reboots if i try to run from ide controller........
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maverick33




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 10:38    Post subject:
waltgill wrote:
bought a ide /raid controller today...
all starforce games work now without doing anything ........HOORAY
only problem is i have to copy image to hd first to play
if not the pc reboots if i try to run from ide controller........


Is it a common ide/raid controller, or is it with Silicon Chipset?
Could you tell me where you bought it?
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waltgill




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 12:04    Post subject:
its a Silicon Image SiI 680 ATA 133 Controller
you can find it on this site

http://www.dcs-online.biz/shop/product_info.php/cPath/96_42/products_id/5421

also i bought it from discount computer supplies....
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Janz




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 14:36    Post subject:
Hi,
i have the Silicon Image Sil 0680 ATA 133 Controller installed in my system and my pioneer 108 dvd burner is attached to it. But Prince of Persia does not work! it wants the disc in another drive.

got a nforce 2 motherboard (but i have not installed the nvidia ide drivers)

any ideas?
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highstuff




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 16:51    Post subject:
try to dissable the controller by device manager that might work.
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Janz




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 17:00    Post subject:
mh could be difficult, cause i have another hard disk connected with the raid controller...
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waltgill




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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 00:36    Post subject:
i got prince of persia to run without any problems..
but the image needs to be on the hard drive...
mount with daemon tools 4
install
leave mounted and run.......

i have also tried with the dvd with image on it mounted...
but when i try to run starforce games it restarts the pc...

does anyone else have any luck running games from controler card without the pc restarting..

also i can install the games mounted from dvd reader on the controler card bit i have to copy image to hd then mount from hd to run.............
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Kronin




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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 02:45    Post subject:
Yes thats how i got all my starforce games to work, image must be copied to standard IDE harddrive. A fix should be in the next version of Daemon tools
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Janz




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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 14:14    Post subject:
omg, that could be the point why it doesnt work for me with the raid controller. cause the hdd on which the image is stored is also plugged the raid controller. i will give it try
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luiluilui




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Dec 2005 18:18    Post subject:
I bought a Conceptronic box 5.25 usb 2.0 (around 30€), removed the DVD-RW of the computer and put it in this box. Now I continue burning discs without problems and I play to all the games with SF 3.5 or 3.6 (KingKong, POPT2T, The Suffering TTB, Gene Troopers...)
I only must mount the image with DT4, all emulations on. Laughing
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