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 Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 15:04 Post subject: |
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As i have discovered, the only way for me tor run this game is this:
Uninstall DT4, reboot, install DT4, mount dvd, emulation all options ON and then play.
But the game crashes when i get a "question screen" like when drinking water to save then the game asks do i want to save, but i cant select my option, evrithing like works, but mouse dosnt move, and i can't move my selection with arrow keys. And just like that after death...
And i had my optical drive unplugged all the time. And now i have to do that uninstalling, rebooting and installing all over again if I want to play, but it works... until u save or die.. 
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 15:15 Post subject: |
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| Sprite666 wrote: | | Mastahh wrote: | Hi all.
I have Epox 8RDA3+ and there is Sata Constroller Sil 3112
And I have this configuration
IDE 1:Nec DVD_RW ND-3540A - Master
IDE 2:Teac W540E - Master
SATA Sil 3112
Chanel 0 - HDD 1
Chanel 1 - HDD 2
And I made that,
I just disable "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers" disable in Device Manger
There was NVIDIA nForce2 ATA Controller (2.6)
Example if you have 1 HDD and 1 CD-ROM
And each on the separated IDE then if you have in Device manager Primary .............. Controller
Secondary ..... controller then just disable the controller on which you have your cd-rom. |
I did that...i got nforc4,but when starforce cheking disk my pc goes for reboot |
try install the nForce4 Drivers dont unplug anything dont use even sfn just load POP with DT4 (All Options Enabled) also try uninstalling the game and reinstalling the game... it worked for me that why
P4 3.6Ghz 2MB 64bit
2GB RAM DDR2
Geforce 7800GT
250GB 16MB SATA2
Zalaman CNPS9500
-=The Doom Master=-
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 15:20 Post subject: |
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The Doom Master
Wich drivers you mean? All of them???
Sorry for my bad english 
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 15:47 Post subject: |
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Y i cant disable the IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers?
i can disable the secondary but not the first Y?
if i disable the first in STN i get a blue screen
if i disable him in Device Manger i cant start my pc
i get a blue screen when the pc is loading the XP logo
i tried to unplug manually the power cables and it didnt work
every time it give me the same msg protection blala Restart to complete and all this shit
i Used DT-4
plz help me
i can C that its only the primary is the one that gives all the problems
my spec:
Intel(R) 82801 DB Ultra ATA Storage Controller-24CB
HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8480B
HP CD-Writer cd24p
Maxtor 6E040L0
plzzzz help me i LUV POP
PLZZZZ
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 15:51 Post subject: |
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the Nforce4 Chip comes with drivers make sure they are installed....
according to Daemon Tools Nforce 4 Users shouldnt have problems with the latest Protections...
| Sprite666 wrote: | The Doom Master
Wich drivers you mean? All of them??? |
P4 3.6Ghz 2MB 64bit
2GB RAM DDR2
Geforce 7800GT
250GB 16MB SATA2
Zalaman CNPS9500
-=The Doom Master=-
Last edited by The Doom Master on Sun, 4th Dec 2005 15:55; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 15:53 Post subject: |
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u cant unplug on what the Hard Disk working it will crush ur computer check out on which IDE the DVD-ROm and unplug it...
Pluging the HD will sure not work
| haimabd wrote: | Y i cant disable the IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers?
i can disable the secondary but not the first Y?
if i disable the first in STN i get a blue screen
if i disable him in Device Manger i cant start my pc
i get a blue screen when the pc is loading the XP logo
i tried to unplug manually the power cables and it didnt work
every time it give me the same msg protection blala Restart to complete and all this shit
i Used DT-4
plz help me
i can C that its only the primary is the one that gives all the problems
my spec:
Intel(R) 82801 DB Ultra ATA Storage Controller-24CB
HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8480B
HP CD-Writer cd24p
Maxtor 6E040L0
plzzzz help me i LUV POP
PLZZZZ |
P4 3.6Ghz 2MB 64bit
2GB RAM DDR2
Geforce 7800GT
250GB 16MB SATA2
Zalaman CNPS9500
-=The Doom Master=-
Last edited by The Doom Master on Sun, 4th Dec 2005 15:56; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 15:53 Post subject: |
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The Doom Master
They are installed...all of them
Sorry for my bad english
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 15:56 Post subject: |
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but i dont have a DVD-ROM that mean i cant play? or i just misunderstood U?
| The Doom Master wrote: | u cant unplug on what the Hard Disk working it will crush ur computer check out on which IDE the DVD-ROm and plug it...
Pluging the HD will sure not work
| haimabd wrote: | Y i cant disable the IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers?
i can disable the secondary but not the first Y?
if i disable the first in STN i get a blue screen
if i disable him in Device Manger i cant start my pc
i get a blue screen when the pc is loading the XP logo
i tried to unplug manually the power cables and it didnt work
every time it give me the same msg protection blala Restart to complete and all this shit
i Used DT-4
plz help me
i can C that its only the primary is the one that gives all the problems
my spec:
Intel(R) 82801 DB Ultra ATA Storage Controller-24CB
HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8480B
HP CD-Writer cd24p
Maxtor 6E040L0
plzzzz help me i LUV POP
PLZZZZ |
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 15:57 Post subject: |
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there could be bad Starforce Files on ur computers try to uninstall them and reinstall
| Sprite666 wrote: | The Doom Master
They are installed...all of them |
P4 3.6Ghz 2MB 64bit
2GB RAM DDR2
Geforce 7800GT
250GB 16MB SATA2
Zalaman CNPS9500
-=The Doom Master=-
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 16:02 Post subject: |
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| romul22 wrote: | | bvnbvn_2000 wrote: | | Jeeeeeez Im totallly frustrated after I tried EVERYTHING and nothing works I still get the freaking error to insert the disc into another driver. I used all the cleaning, disabling programs for starforce and I have DT4 with all options enabled, still it does not work! Somebody help! |
whats the problem ppl?
if its asking for another drive,all you have to do its just rename your virtual drive in regedit and thats it.
im runing ALL games with dt4 only.
just go:
start->run->regedit->HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE->system->mounted_devices
found your virtual drive in the list and rename it,like that:
\DosDevices\H.hiden:
play the games
but remember to do the same every time you restart the system,delete old renamed drive and rename the new one in list |
Err, so if my virtual drive is L i should rename it to \DosDevices\L.hiden: ?
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 16:05 Post subject: |
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Works fine when mounted in DT4 and unplugged IDE Drives(this game is worth it)
The hide trick works for Securom protected games like Stubbs and Matrix PoN
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 16:06 Post subject: |
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The Doom Master
It didnt helps me 
Sorry for my bad english
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 16:12 Post subject: |
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Some-1 plz help?
if i dont have a DVD rom i cant this game?
i have to wait to CD Version
ppl help me!
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 16:45 Post subject: |
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so how do we do this renaming thing because i tried and it doesnt work??also when we go into regedit to locate the virtual drive we find it but the renaming part is also done but it still fails it says put into another drive??can you tell us what does the renaming have to look like i have a virtual drive G: for example should it be G.hiden or something else??help us out thnkz.
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 16:58 Post subject: |
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You might have to disconnect your IDE optical drives as I had to to get POP TTT to work.
Running all the usual Registry disabling stuff does not work for me.
I suspect the 4 boot time drivers that StarForce installs detects your optical drive long before you can run a program to disable them. Even disabling them in Device Manager and rebooting this way does not work. The drivers 'see' your optical drives before XP can disable them. Just my guess what is going on.
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 17:08 Post subject: |
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| gexx wrote: | | so how do we do this renaming thing because i tried and it doesnt work??also when we go into regedit to locate the virtual drive we find it but the renaming part is also done but it still fails it says put into another drive??can you tell us what does the renaming have to look like i have a virtual drive G: for example should it be G.hiden or something else??help us out thnkz. |
So you go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices
you look for your virtual drive(you should only use one),mine is E:
so I look for the
\DosDevices\E: > Right Mouse button on it > rename and then put .hidden behind the E but before the :
so it looks like
\DosDevices\E.hidden:
actually I don't think it matter what you type behind the . you just gotta rename it
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 17:20 Post subject: |
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My system reboots when I try to unplug the IDE drives manually, SFN doesn't work for me, and using DT4 without any software also fails bigtime. What should I do? I'm going crazy here, I tried all the possible things, but nothing seems to work!
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 17:27 Post subject: |
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Blue Frisky,you need to shut down your computer before you go disconnect your drives,I'm assuming you left your computer running?
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 17:30 Post subject: |
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ummm yeah.... I'll try that... thanks... will update in a few mins
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 17:37 Post subject: |
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the renaming thing doesnt work for me i tried everything...why arent the big groups releasing anything??what happened to RELOADED didnt they crack Starforce?? come on guys give us a crack ..thnkz.
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 17:54 Post subject: |
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that doesn't seem to help... i unplugged the devices when the system was off, but still, no luck for me... i found out that when i unplug my lg cd/dvd writer it reboots, and when it's plugged it asks for cd, but I have another drive, and unplugging it doesn't seem to make any difference...... I think that starforce ditected it at the beginning and now when i unplug it the protection knows that something is missing and just reboots... just my guess...
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 19:20 Post subject: POP key |
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When I entered the key, it says: "The Disc Key you entered does not correspond to the disc in the drive. Make sure you use the correct Disc Key."
And if i enter any other random key, which really doesnt work, it says:"The Key you entered is wrong or mistyped. Enter a valid key, and try again."
So the firs should be working. And i unplugged the ide drivers.
Any suggestion?
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 19:20 Post subject: |
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I went to device manager and disabled my cd drives. I tried running and it didnt work.
I have dt4, tried disable node and disable cd and in starforce nightmare. I exit starforce nightmare before trying to run the pop shortcut and it doesn't work.
I then shut down computer removed power to cd drives rebooted and it worked.
I suppose it would not be hard for starforce protection to check with the bios about what drives you have installed instead of asking windows. Giving no power to your drives means there are no drives installed as far as the bios and windows are concerned. However Starforce nightmare hides the drives from windows and if starforce protection bypasses windows and asks the bios if drives are installed directly, then bios will say there are drives installed even though as far as windows is concerned there are none.
At least that's what I assume that is happening, I really don't know.
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 19:28 Post subject: |
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IF u guys are getting errors I suggest you use one of these steps:
_delete SF drivers(with the official removal tool which can be found @ gcw
_re-install DT4
_uninstall sfcure
_have SP2 installed
Or call tech support
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 22:08 Post subject: |
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i dont know if it will be helpful in this time, but to all who have reboot problem when protection starting to run do this:
move file sptd.sys from WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\ in safe location. when try to run game. if it helped dont forget to move same file in the old location, cuz without it next time dt4 wount work.
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 22:53 Post subject: |
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| Lithy wrote: | i dont know if it will be helpful in this time, but to all who have reboot problem when protection starting to run do this:
move file sptd.sys from WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\ in safe location. when try to run game. if it helped dont forget to move same file in the old location, cuz without it next time dt4 wount work. |
Its not workin...still reboot ((
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Dec 2005 23:16 Post subject: |
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a crack would be nice..instead of all the unplugging business
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 01:57 Post subject: |
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Guys like Sprite666, try moving your game image to a different HD. There's some conflict with DT4+Sforce+SATA or raid drives.
Do you have a HDD on a parallel IDE channel? Try moving the game image and mounting it from there.
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 02:26 Post subject: |
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| j12555 wrote: | Guys like Sprite666, try moving your game image to a different HD. There's some conflict with DT4+Sforce+SATA or raid drives.
Do you have a HDD on a parallel IDE channel? Try moving the game image and mounting it from there. |
Thanks dude! Moved image form Sata-Raid to my IDE HD and its working now. No more rebooting.
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