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zibztrollingme
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VonMisk
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Ridiculous.
All those SJW should just shut the fuck up and keep their comments to their self.
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Dec 2015 12:03 Post subject: |
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It was a useless scene IMO, like every scene with Bolton in it.
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Dec 2015 12:08 Post subject: |
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Cunts.. 
SJWs must die..
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a particularly hard-to-watch scene |
Wut?? Dat scene is nothign compared to the "best" rape scene depicted in films - "Irreversible" starring Monica Bellucci.
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Dec 2015 12:09 Post subject: |
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Il_Padrino
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Dec 2015 14:17 Post subject: |
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I hated the scene because it was just added for shock value. The creators added lots of sexual violence to this series that wasn't in the books (like the pedo scene in the last episode).
The show is already suffering from unsympathetic characters, raping the remaining ones isn't the way to go. (Starting to remind me of Oz)
I didn't mind the backlash they got for it, it was deserved. There's enough violence in the story, stick to it and keep your sexual fantasies out of it.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Dec 2015 14:19 Post subject: |
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Meh, it's not like the last season was some pinnacle of brilliance that this news stand to potentially ruin anything for the next one.
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Il_Padrino
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Dec 2015 20:44 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | It wasn't complained about because they deemed it a 'useless scene', so that is irrelevant, it was criticised because these imbeciles want to change the show to suit their moral standards. GOT has always been gratuitous when it comes to violence and sex, so when it comes to rape, why would/should it be any different?
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I agree with the sentence below I quoted, which basically means the scene was useless. The books are masochistic, but it all has a purpose. Adding scenes on TV to just shock people, is just a simple tool to cause controversy. The went overboard with the Ramsay Bolton bullshit and turned him into a caricature.
| Quote: | | But edgy plots should always accomplish something above pure titillation or shock value and what, exactly, was accomplished here? |
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Dec 2015 21:11 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | But edgy plots should always accomplish something above pure titillation or shock value and what, exactly, was accomplished here? |
My two cents:
1. It was the natural result of a marriage to Ramsay. Their first night was always going to have some element of sadism due simply to the fact that he's a complete psycho. Including Reek was a minor contrivance at worst, in order to facilitate the plot of the following episodes. That said, I didn't feel that it was unnatural or out of character for Ramsay to do this.
2. It was the moment that Theon finally snapped and his loyalty to Ramsay began to fracture. Ramsay pushed him too far and if the wedding night had not happened that way, Reek would have remained Reek and Theon and Sansa would not have escaped in the finale.
3. Had this happened to Sansa in seasons 1-4, it would have completely destroyed her. However, season 5 Sansa has evolved to the point that she can endure something so terrible and not only survive it but come out of it with the will take control of her destiny and escape. Rather than destroying her character as the whiners claimed, it illustrated how far she had come from being a naive and awkward young girl to a woman with courage, wisdom and grace.
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Dec 2015 21:25 Post subject: |
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@cirithungol
what he said. 
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zibztrollingme
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 08:51 Post subject: |
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| cirithungol wrote: | | Mister_s wrote: | | But edgy plots should always accomplish something above pure titillation or shock value and what, exactly, was accomplished here? |
My two cents:
1. It was the natural result of a marriage to Ramsay. Their first night was always going to have some element of sadism due simply to the fact that he's a complete psycho. Including Reek was a minor contrivance at worst, in order to facilitate the plot of the following episodes. That said, I didn't feel that it was unnatural or out of character for Ramsay to do this.
2. It was the moment that Theon finally snapped and his loyalty to Ramsay began to fracture. Ramsay pushed him too far and if the wedding night had not happened that way, Reek would have remained Reek and Theon and Sansa would not have escaped in the finale.
3. Had this happened to Sansa in seasons 1-4, it would have completely destroyed her. However, season 5 Sansa has evolved to the point that she can endure something so terrible and not only survive it but come out of it with the will take control of her destiny and escape. Rather than destroying her character as the whiners claimed, it illustrated how far she had come from being a naive and awkward young girl to a woman with courage, wisdom and grace. |
Yeah but then again why should people use their brain when they can just say it was unnecessary and gratuitous.
If people wanna talk about a botched up rape scene there are other ones that should be talked about, Daenerys getting raped by Drogo and Jamie raping Cersei. Those two things never happened and they REALLY didn't bring anything to the story, unlike the Sansa rape which has a logical reason behind it and a logical consequence.
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 11:40 Post subject: |
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Well, that's one less show to continue watching.
Why are children watching Game of Thrones in the first place? Someone needs to get in contact with their parents.
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VonMisk
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 11:55 Post subject: |
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| zibztrollingme wrote: | | cirithungol wrote: | | Mister_s wrote: | | But edgy plots should always accomplish something above pure titillation or shock value and what, exactly, was accomplished here? |
My two cents:
1. It was the natural result of a marriage to Ramsay. Their first night was always going to have some element of sadism due simply to the fact that he's a complete psycho. Including Reek was a minor contrivance at worst, in order to facilitate the plot of the following episodes. That said, I didn't feel that it was unnatural or out of character for Ramsay to do this.
2. It was the moment that Theon finally snapped and his loyalty to Ramsay began to fracture. Ramsay pushed him too far and if the wedding night had not happened that way, Reek would have remained Reek and Theon and Sansa would not have escaped in the finale.
3. Had this happened to Sansa in seasons 1-4, it would have completely destroyed her. However, season 5 Sansa has evolved to the point that she can endure something so terrible and not only survive it but come out of it with the will take control of her destiny and escape. Rather than destroying her character as the whiners claimed, it illustrated how far she had come from being a naive and awkward young girl to a woman with courage, wisdom and grace. |
Yeah but then again why should people use their brain when they can just say it was unnecessary and gratuitous.
If people wanna talk about a botched up rape scene there are other ones that should be talked about, Daenerys getting raped by Drogo and Jamie raping Cersei. Those two things never happened and they REALLY didn't bring anything to the story, unlike the Sansa rape which has a logical reason behind it and a logical consequence. |
Also Sansa rape scene was mild in comparison to the two mentioned because you never saw Bolton raping her only her face.
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 12:02 Post subject: |
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Wouldn't mind the rape if it's a scene from the books, they stray from the books to much and it just seems unnecessary, like shock value. Stay true to the books.
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Il_Padrino
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 12:13 Post subject: |
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| zibztrollingme wrote: |
If people wanna talk about a botched up rape scene there are other ones that should be talked about, Daenerys getting raped by Drogo and Jamie raping Cersei. Those two things never happened and they REALLY didn't bring anything to the story, unlike the Sansa rape which has a logical reason behind it and a logical consequence. |
Yeah, those scenes were even worse. But the backlash they got after Sansa was the culmination of all these only-for-shockvalue scenes.
Granted, in the books it isn't Sansa who marries Ramsay, but a lookalike, and she does get brutally raped on the wedding night. But it's more about the character Sansa, and her story arch, which is going in a completely different direction than the books it seems.
Which is fine by me at this point, they've changed so much already I frankly don't care anymore. But come on, we know already, the harsh times of the middle ages and women are the niggers of Westeros, blablabla. Try to be more creative than rape.
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 15:17 Post subject: |
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rape??? i saw rough sex.
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 15:52 Post subject: |
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Facking a few as per usual ruining it for all. 
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zibztrollingme
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 18:01 Post subject: |
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| Il_Padrino wrote: | | zibztrollingme wrote: |
If people wanna talk about a botched up rape scene there are other ones that should be talked about, Daenerys getting raped by Drogo and Jamie raping Cersei. Those two things never happened and they REALLY didn't bring anything to the story, unlike the Sansa rape which has a logical reason behind it and a logical consequence. |
Yeah, those scenes were even worse. But the backlash they got after Sansa was the culmination of all these only-for-shockvalue scenes.
Granted, in the books it isn't Sansa who marries Ramsay, but a lookalike, and she does get brutally raped on the wedding night. But it's more about the character Sansa, and her story arch, which is going in a completely different direction than the books it seems.
Which is fine by me at this point, they've changed so much already I frankly don't care anymore. But come on, we know already, the harsh times of the middle ages and women are the niggers of Westeros, blablabla. Try to be more creative than rape. |
But the rape makes sense in Sansa's case, at least the show Sansa since book Sansa is different.
This is a show/book where everyone gets the opposite of what they want. Sansa wanted the perfect knight in shining armor the whole time. It only makes sense that she got the opposite and the rape makes perfect sense. It should, in theory, be the moment where Sansa finally is done with being the stupid naive girl (who btw, in the books I found her to be a chore to read) and will finally kiss goodbye to fairy tales and will finally start realizing the harsh world she lives in and that she needs to because a cold blooded person to survive.
It's the only logical course of action once she got married to the Bolton. Who btw, it's established since day 1 that he rapes everything ffs, so what the hell did people expect it was going to happen? Besides the fact that for the times it makes sense that the lord of the region will want to consume the marriage on the night of the wedding ffs.
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zibztrollingme
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 18:05 Post subject: |
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And with that being said, I still can't believe they did that with the Jamie/Cersei scene. Just completely missed the point of it from the start.
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2016 16:52 Post subject: |
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Meh
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2016 16:56 Post subject: |
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Too late for Sansa to prepare hers.
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Haha absolutely, the White Walkers are the most likable characters left in the show. Genuine beasts with moral integrity and lacking hypocrisy, something unknown to the puny slimy and manipulative humans. House Wun Weg Wun Dar Wun ain't bad either though!  
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