Prince of Persia T2T SFCloneDVD Problem
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KlaSH79




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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 03:25    Post subject: ...
I don't have a SATA or RAID drive. Mine is IDE and the rebooting problem still persist. I tried everything from everypost, since uninstall DT4 to unplug drives, change HD, etc.

It's the hardest game i ever try to play Razz hope worth the job Smile
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Sprite666




Posts: 10

PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 10:47    Post subject:
j12555 wrote:
Guys like Sprite666, try moving your game image to a different HD. There's some conflict with DT4+Sforce+SATA or raid drives.

Do you have a HDD on a parallel IDE channel? Try moving the game image and mounting it from there.

I got only one HDD
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ThOMaZ




Posts: 809
Location: Here
PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 11:40    Post subject:
well i guess i'm going to have to buy a brand new computer to be able to play stuff like this, because i'm not going to break open my laptop to remove the cdrom driver and risk fucking it all up... SF sux Sad


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maxiepaxie




Posts: 1732
Location: Belgium
PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 13:30    Post subject:
Thomaz this is not really dangerous or hard(if your computer hasn't been sealed off),
just shut down computer, unscrew the screws on the back and take out the side part,then look for your cd/dvd drive(s) and unplug the large cables which look like they are tied up small wires(not multicolored)
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ThOMaZ




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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 15:24    Post subject:
lol, you're funny Very Happy you really expect me to unscrew my laptop remove or insert the cdrom drive everytime i want tot watch a movie or a play the game?(all my movies are on CD). that's just insane Smile sadle i don't have one of these good acer laptop where you press 1 button and the drive comes out. i'll survive Smile.i still have to try the thing where the iso is on another hard drive, hope it workd is the other harddrive is an external one.


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Mr_Baggins




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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 16:35    Post subject:
madnessnaab wrote:
I think I'll buy the game when it comes Mad
Ubisoft deserves it anyway


They don't deserve it, they use starforce. Starforce is evil. Thou shalt not buy any starforce fucked program. Thou shalt not encourage them to use this shit.


11th "Thou shalt not flash"
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Druqsr




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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 17:00    Post subject:
I get 1 second black screen (rectangle) , but then it goes back to desktop.
Unplugged DVDrom, used starforce nightmare (CD and Node) mount in DT4
Imho, it seems like I circumvented the protection, but another (maybe mobo?gfx card?) problem causes this startup to fail

My poor rig, but good enough

athlon XP 1800 at 1533 mhz
Gforce 3 ti200 128 mb
512 ram

Solution any1 ?
or have the same problem?
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bvnbvn_2000




Posts: 19

PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 21:12    Post subject:
My cousin has a dell inspiron notebook and he got the black screen and reboot when using only Dt4. He got the game working by using DT4 (all options enabled) and SFN only Disable CD.

I myself got the game working with DT4 all emulation options enabled and only by disconnencting the IDE cable of my NEC 35XX cd/dvd writer drive. I have another cd-writer on my pc but starforce doesn't seem to recognize that. I have my windows xp on an ata hardisk and i also have a SATA hard. I didn't see any difference mounting the image from any of the harddrives.

It seems that with the NEC 35XX series starforce has a workaround so SFN doen not work for those systems and you have to unplug the IDE cable from the drive, you can do this even when the pc is on and can plug it back in when the pc is on and just go to device manager, righ click, and scan for new hardware change.

If this does not work for you try turning off your pc and unpluggiing the power cord for all the extra drives you have including extra hard disks. DO NOT DO THIS WITH YOU SYSTEM ON AS YOU COULD DAMAGE YOUR HARDWARE. If this works you can start plugging back cords one by one to see the device startforce has problem with.

By the way you would know when the game is gonna work when it is chekcing the drivers
and stops at 1/4 of the way for a while and then moves on. If it just goes instantly to the end you ve got a problem!
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The Doom Master




Posts: 30
Location: Isrel
PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 21:15    Post subject:
u need to check 2 things mate
1)check out readme.txt of the game if the game got support for u card
2)make sure u got the latest drivers of the card...
u can check with dxdiag...

Druqsr wrote:
I get 1 second black screen (rectangle) , but then it goes back to desktop.
Unplugged DVDrom, used starforce nightmare (CD and Node) mount in DT4
Imho, it seems like I circumvented the protection, but another (maybe mobo?gfx card?) problem causes this startup to fail

My poor rig, but good enough

athlon XP 1800 at 1533 mhz
Gforce 3 ti200 128 mb
512 ram

Solution any1 ?
or have the same problem?


P4 3.6Ghz 2MB 64bit
2GB RAM DDR2
Geforce 7800GT
250GB 16MB SATA2
Zalaman CNPS9500
-=The Doom Master=-
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Bigperm




Posts: 1908
Location: Alberta,Canada
PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 21:46    Post subject:
haimabd wrote:
Y i cant disable the IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers?
i can disable the secondary but not the first Y?
if i disable the first in STN i get a blue screen
if i disable him in Device Manger i cant start my pc
i get a blue screen when the pc is loading the XP logo
i tried to unplug manually the power cables and it didnt work
every time it give me the same msg protection blala Restart to complete and all this shit
i Used DT-4
plz help me
i can C that its only the primary is the one that gives all the problems

my spec:
Intel(R) 82801 DB Ultra ATA Storage Controller-24CB
HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8480B
HP CD-Writer cd24p
Maxtor 6E040L0

plzzzz help me i LUV POP
PLZZZZ


OK

1. You cannot disable the IDE controller that your primary HD is on.
2. Remove all optical drives
3. Make sure antiblaxx is NOT running (on task bar)
4. Mount with DT4 leaving all options default.Install game, install SF protection as required. Reboot when asked.
5. Try playing, if doesnt work. Unmount all drives in DT4. Then remount the image. Try to run again.
6. IF that still doesnt work. Uninstall. Remove all traces of SF with required tools (Search for em) then start at step 4 again.

I got this running by just mounting, reboot when asked. Then i disabled the my optical drive is device manager. I didnt disable the controller, just the drive and it worked. I also didnot use SF nightmare or other such tools. But if you cannot get it working with your optical drives unplugged; you must have a bad ISO or your SOL.

Dont take this the wrong way, but it seem like you dont know alot about computer hardware. For anyone that isnt to savy with hardware needs to remeber. IDE drives are NOT HOT SWAPABLE. Be sure to turn off your computer before you disconnect your drives. My system is SATA and i still always turn off power when removing my drives.

And to answer your last question.

You donot need any optical drives to get an image running. DVD image or CD, it doesnt matter. DT4 will emulate them for you.

Every starforce clone should work with no problems mounted if all your optical drives are unplugged. IF you are using a SATA to IDE converter on your IDE optical drive. Make sure to disable power and not just unplug the IDE-SATA cable. If the converter is still powered and plugged into your SATA control it will hang (Ushally) durring IDE detection on boot. I have not found one SF clone that didnt run on my system with all the optical drives physicaly unpluged.

Hope this helps.
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Omego2K




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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 23:13    Post subject:
when I try to disable my ata, my PC freezes. Anybody can help?
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nicoco




Posts: 2

PostPosted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 23:22    Post subject:
My little contribution.

2 hdd serial ata
1 dvd writer
nforce4

.hidden doesn't work. sfn doesn't work
So i've tried the same thing than for King Kong : mounted via DT4, dvd writer unplugged on the motherboard, reboot : it works... Very Happy
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ooptea




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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 03:32    Post subject:
tried it all nothing works yet hope a crack comes out soon
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ooptea




Posts: 31

PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 03:59    Post subject:
ok dont ask me why but i tried unhooking my cdroms again and now it works so i guess as long as i dont need to burn nething ill just leave it like this
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analfreund




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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 07:49    Post subject:
can some1 tell me plz a good sf-file removal tool?
is starforce clean good (latest version ist over 1 year old)?
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Hakkai




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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 10:59    Post subject:
Mount with DT4 and Disable node/cd/ata with SFN worked for me but i got some little grafic bugs and sound bugs! Sucks hearing the prince screaming in a raw or if he get hit ...


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mr_no




Posts: 44

PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 12:34    Post subject: Lets find connection in our problems
Hay guys..same problems..IN CASE of ReBOOtin..king kong reboot..princ of persia reboot..knight of the tample reboot..I think that we have to find comon spot..maybe its a step of solving problem..for example some thing Pop on ma mind..In da case of ReBOOTin does every body gat SATA or RAID drivers..
Athlon64 2800+
1GB Kinston
X800XT Platinum
400GB SATA in Raid
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Sprite666




Posts: 10

PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 13:35    Post subject: Re: Lets find connection in our problems
mr_no wrote:
Hay guys..same problems..IN CASE of ReBOOtin..king kong reboot..princ of persia reboot..knight of the tample reboot..I think that we have to find comon spot..maybe its a step of solving problem..for example some thing Pop on ma mind..In da case of ReBOOTin does every body gat SATA or RAID drivers..
Athlon64 2800+
1GB Kinston
X800XT Platinum
400GB SATA in Raid


i got same problem...and my pc config is almost same as yours,but my hdd is here NVIDIA nForce(tm) RAID Class Controller
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elio14




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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 16:13    Post subject: Guys I have The Answer how to play this games
every one that tryed Starfucker , star nightmare , and the games didn't worked with them ...
the only way to play this kind of games is to Mount the game in DT4 with all options enabled . and unpluge the CDrom and the DVD rome from the MotherBoard...
u need to open the PC Case and do this manualy .. do not disable it from device manager ...
when you unpluge them from the Mother Board ... every thing will work Smoothly ...
thats what i did ...
if you are trying to play Prince of persia ... beleive me it worth all this work ...
enjoy ...
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mr_no




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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 16:57    Post subject: Re: Guys I have The Answer how to play this games
elio14 wrote:
every one that tryed Starfucker , star nightmare , and the games didn't worked with them ...
the only way to play this kind of games is to Mount the game in DT4 with all options enabled . and unpluge the CDrom and the DVD rome from the MotherBoard...
u need to open the PC Case and do this manualy .. do not disable it from device manager ...
when you unpluge them from the Mother Board ... every thing will work Smoothly ...
thats what i did ...
if you are trying to play Prince of persia ... beleive me it worth all this work ...
enjoy ...



Hey..i did it b 4..i mounted in dt4 disable cd roms from power and cable..didint hooked up from mother board but its same thing..then started again reboot..MA OPINION is that all
of us who got problem with rebootin is that we have something in comon..we have to discover wht..In that ocaison everyone who got rebootin problem, let us know what is theri configuration..ATA..SATA..do they have HD in raid..
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qty




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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 20:26    Post subject:
works with removed cable of my drives, but game stucks sometimes while switchting to pause menue...
hm damn Mad
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mr_no




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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 23:57    Post subject: hay gty
did u have a problem with rebootin..
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mortis4321




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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 00:43    Post subject:
Ok, I know where I've made a mistake, Ive mounted wrong file - you have to mount the smaller file -> *.mds (and unplug all cd/dvd drives of course). Works for me Smile .(no sfcure or sfnightmare)
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metal23




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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 01:12    Post subject:
For those of you with a rebooting problem, this is how I fixed mine:

Go to the game directory and look for the file "hardware.ini" (text file named hardware"

Modify the following line from "1" to "0"

"VertexShaders11=1" (make it: VertexShaders11=0)

It worked for me! Very Happy
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mr_no




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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 12:49    Post subject:
Hay..metal23..im on ma job..f u got da point and it works just name da prize..
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metal23




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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 13:22    Post subject:
mr_no wrote:
Hay..metal23..im on ma job..f u got da point and it works just name da prize..


I'm sorry.... What? Did you try it? Did it work?
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mr_no




Posts: 44

PostPosted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 13:53    Post subject:
No man..I ll try it to night when im finish ma job..I ll let u know either way..
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qty




Posts: 65

PostPosted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 18:05    Post subject:
had no problems with rebooting... oh wrong, i had to reboot once, for install the protection Very Happy
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sponsz




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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 19:05    Post subject:
what happend if i burn the DVD. will i have the same problem, because i am not an expert in computer technologies. Thx a lot for your contribution.
Soz
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loadstone007




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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Dec 2005 20:07    Post subject:
Well people, it does work when you disconnect IDE drives. I don't really use them, but it is annoying to open your case to play a fu***** game...!
Although the game is good, and I did save money....
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