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Kaltern
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 Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 11:52 Post subject: No more cracked games in two years ? (Denuvo thread) |
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| Quote: | It is kind of a good warning, but Chinese cracking forum 3DM is warning that given the current state of anti-piracy technology, in two years there might be no more pirate games to play.
The claims come after attempts to breach the Denuvo security protecting Just Cause 3 pushed the group's cracking expert to breaking point.
One of the hottest topics involves the Avalanche Studios/Square Enix title Just Cause 3. Released on December 1, 2015 and despite massive demand, the game has still not been cracked. The problem appears to lie with the robustness of the technology protecting the game.
jc3-smallJust Cause 3 uses the latest iteration of Denuvo, an anti-tamper technology developed by Denuvo Software Solutions GmbH. While its secrets are best known to its creators, Denuvo is a secondary encryption system which protects existing and underlying DRM products.
In 2014 the product made the headlines after successfully protecting Dragon Age: Inquisition for almost a month, a very respectable time in cracking circles.
In the end it was Chinese cracking group 3DM that brought down that instance of Denuvo but the Austria-based company continued to tweak and achieved increasing protection periods on recent games in the FIFA series. FIFA 16 is currently Denuvo protected and that game still hasn't been cracked, despite being released in September.
But Just Cause 3 is the current hot potato and despite having released an endless supply of cracks for other titles (and having had success against Denuvo in the past), the cracks (excuse the pun) are beginning to show at 3DM.
In a posting on her blog, 3DM forum founder 'Bird Sister' (also known as Phoenix) has revealed the frustrations being experienced with Just Cause 3.
"Recently, many people have asked about cracks for 'Just Cause 3', so here is a centralized answer to this question. The last stage is too difficult and Jun [cracking guy] nearly gave up, but last Wednesday I encouraged him to continue," Bird Sister explains.
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http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/no-more-cracked-games-in-two-years.html
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Przepraszam
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 11:53 Post subject: |
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I can't shake the feeling that today hacking scene is made up of 13 year olds who don't know jack shit.
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HIz
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 11:54 Post subject: |
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good , games aren't what they used to be anyways, so fuck it
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. 
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garus
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 11:58 Post subject: |
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piracy is dead (again) nothing new moving on
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 12:05 Post subject: |
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Ever since the cheap keysites emerged I can't be bothered anymore to play pirated games.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 12:06 Post subject: |
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Should be moved to Protection Bitch'n?
"Fuck Denuvo"
Your personal opinions != the rest of the forum
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tonizito
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 12:06 Post subject: |
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nah
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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Saner
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 12:22 Post subject: |
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Dunno what you are on about I downloaded the game from kazza just fine.
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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prudislav
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 12:25 Post subject: |
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i bet 3DM got payed off by Denuvo to post such a statement  aka very good markleting strategy from them.
still I would love to read the original statement in properly translated english
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chiv
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 12:34 Post subject: |
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*tinfoil hat* eventually DRM providers will realise without the mass fear of piracy, and the quality of protection methods, their profits will decline... they in turn will leak the secrets of their encryption methods to crank things up again!
no but seriously.. i mean... i cant ever foresee a time when something is just so secure a workaround cant be found. Eventually there will be some kind of breakthrough, a new way of doing things, and shit'll take off again.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 12:37 Post subject: |
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| tet666 wrote: | Tinfoil hats on
The scene didn't bother with Denuvo so far cause it can only be emulated atm and that's breaking scene rules, |
What scene are we talking about exactly? Hatred, Hoodlum, Razer, Vitality, Skidrow, Fairlight are all dead or extinct. Reloaded is all that's left of the old guard, that actually knows shit. So, again, which scene exactly is waiting for shit ? There is no scene anymore, people that care to crack advanced stuff. The chinese dudes are not that far off.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 12:41 Post subject: |
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Why do we have a pretty ok-working JC3 crack in the VIP section then eh?
Chinese crackers, says it all.
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prudislav
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 12:42 Post subject: |
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| qqq wrote: | | What scene are we talking about exactly? Hatred, Hoodlum, Razer, Vitality, Skidrow, Fairlight are all dead or extinct. Reloaded is all that's left of the old guard, that actually knows shit. So, again, which scene exactly is waiting for shit ? There is no scene anymore, people that care to crack advanced stuff. The chinese dudes are not that far off. |
iirc CODEX was founded from the old guard (Vitality, Hatred and the old Skidrow) and judging by their uplay emu - they got the uplay guy from skidrow
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 12:47 Post subject: |
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PC piracy is dying is the new PC gaming is dying.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 12:47 Post subject: |
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| prudislav wrote: | | qqq wrote: | | What scene are we talking about exactly? Hatred, Hoodlum, Razer, Vitality, Skidrow, Fairlight are all dead or extinct. Reloaded is all that's left of the old guard, that actually knows shit. So, again, which scene exactly is waiting for shit ? There is no scene anymore, people that care to crack advanced stuff. The chinese dudes are not that far off. |
iirc CODEX was founded from the old guard (Vitality, Hatred and the old Skidrow) and judging by their uplay emu - they got the uplay guy from skidrow |
Codex seems very mellow to me, doing simple steam stuff. Everybody is saying the same things as if it's ten years ago, "oh, this bullshit again" "piracy never dies" "pirate forever" "oh, it's just a new challenge for the "scene". But when you stop repeating shit and actually look at the sorry state the crackers are in, the fact that there aren't any left anymore, it doesn't actually look all that good. We're always gonna have piracy, but it's entirely possible it's gonna be like this "somewhat functional crack available in some VIP section".
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garus
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 12:48 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | *tinfoil hat* eventually DRM providers will realise without the mass fear of piracy, and the quality of protection methods, their profits will decline... they in turn will leak the secrets of their encryption methods to crank things up again!
no but seriously.. i mean... i cant ever foresee a time when something is just so secure a workaround cant be found. Eventually there will be some kind of breakthrough, a new way of doing things, and shit'll take off again. |
Of course piracy is not dying. It's the same panic every 3-5 years.
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prudislav
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 12:49 Post subject: |
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| qqq wrote: | | Codex seems very mellow to me, doing simple steam stuff. |
well cracking steam's cpuCEG in matter of minutes is a thing even RLD did not achieved yet.
| qqq wrote: | | But when you stop repeating shit and actually look at the sorry state the crackers are in, the fact that there aren't any left anymore, it doesn't actually look all that good.. |
yeah the same sorry state we've been in the days of Starforce, Securom 7+8,....... yeah PC gaming is dying, PC piracy i dying and even Bronies are dying 
| garus wrote: | | Of course piracy is not dying. It's the same panic every 3-5 years. |
and people sticl panicking over it, over and over and over and over again, look at qqq or even in 2mb Raider thread (no real basis of it using the "big D" )
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 12:58 Post subject: |
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| prudislav wrote: |
| qqq wrote: | | But when you stop repeating shit and actually look at the sorry state the crackers are in, the fact that there aren't any left anymore, it doesn't actually look all that good.. |
yeah the same sorry state we've been in the days of Starforce, Securom 7+8,....... yeah PC gaming is dying, PC piracy i dying and even Bronies are dying |
Those were days when the scene was strong, able, willing. What did i just say not five minutes ago? Those guys, they're gone. Those groups, gone. There aren't people to take the chalenge. As of this moment. Other than Codex and Reloaded, who are the mighty knights that are supposed to take up this new challenge?
Don't we already have a number of games with no cracks or problems right now? It took even GTA 5 a long ass time to crack. They just need to come up with another new protection alongside denuvo and it's gonna be even clearer than it is now.
Theres gonna be a point in time when reverse engineering protections and shit is gonna just be too time consuming and new versions are gonna be out by the time you crack it. This doomsday scenario is not gonna happen as the chinese dudes are saying, but it's not gonna be as rosy as it was until 2013.
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harry_theone
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 13:28 Post subject: |
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Don't we already have a number of games with no cracks or problems right now? It took even GTA 5 a long ass time to crack. |
1. Romanic Numbers
2. Social Club version was cracked fast
3. Point proven you know nothing at all.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 13:53 Post subject: |
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Small off-topic here, but was a "clean" cracl ever released for GTAV?
With no truck mission grenade/explosive bug or whatever it was?
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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prudislav
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 13:56 Post subject: |
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@toni: yep RLD crack works flawlessly (and has forever offline unlike legit one which needs to reractivate weekly in offline mode),
it were just these messy 3dm cracks
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jan 2016 13:57 Post subject: |
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| Xenthalon wrote: | Why do we have a pretty ok-working JC3 crack in the VIP section then eh?
Chinese crackers, says it all. |
No, we have rich VIPs that simply buy us all the games 
Best piracy counter measure: Make games affordable you fucks. |
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