No more cracked games in two years ? (Denuvo thread)
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JackQ
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Feb 2016 09:57    Post subject:
Basically posted already,but it's more extend version:

http://www.pcgamesn.com/rise-of-the-tomb-raider/chinese-pirate-group-3dm-claim-to-have-cracked-the-latest-denuvo-software-days-after-entering-self-imposed-hiatus

Seems like denuvo's Team humbling their ego:

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We recently spoke to Denuvo about their anti-piracy protection, which they openly admit isn't uncrackable, saying "we do not position our Anti-Tamper solution as uncrackable, only hard to crack." The aim is to give publishers and developers some breathing room, so there isn't a pirated version of games available during their first few crucial days on sale, when legitimate sales are at their highest.

The breathing room enjoyed by Rise of the Tomb Raider and Just Cause 3 has been particularly lengthy but, if 3DM's recent comments have substance, it might not be long now.


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Feb 2016 10:20    Post subject:
Talk is cheap


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Feb 2016 10:24    Post subject:
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We recently spoke to Denuvo about their anti-piracy protection, which they openly admit isn't uncrackable, saying "we do not position our Anti-Tamper solution as uncrackable, only hard to crack." The aim is to give publishers and developers some breathing room, so there isn't a pirated version of games available during their first few crucial days on sale, when legitimate sales are at their highest.

The breathing room enjoyed by Rise of the Tomb Raider and Just Cause 3 has been particularly lengthy but, if 3DM's recent comments have substance, it might not be long now.


Translation : Our DRM is Uncrackable, but we dont want to admit it because we afraid of sh*tstorm from Legit users. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Feb 2016 10:39    Post subject:
and what exactly would legit users shit storm about if it's uncrackable?
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Feb 2016 10:50    Post subject:
ButthurtHump wrote:
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We recently spoke to Denuvo about their anti-piracy protection, which they openly admit isn't uncrackable, saying "we do not position our Anti-Tamper solution as uncrackable, only hard to crack." The aim is to give publishers and developers some breathing room, so there isn't a pirated version of games available during their first few crucial days on sale, when legitimate sales are at their highest.

The breathing room enjoyed by Rise of the Tomb Raider and Just Cause 3 has been particularly lengthy but, if 3DM's recent comments have substance, it might not be long now.


Translation : Our DRM is Uncrackable, but we dont want to admit it because we afraid of sh*tstorm from Legit users. Twisted Evil


Nonsense. By definition, if it can run on a local PC without a persistent internet connection, it is NOT uncrackable, unless there's dedicated hardware that enforces some kind of code signing verification (which there isn't on currrent PCs and current versions of windows). It's not a matter of opinion, it is just fact. No matter how complex the protection code, at the end it boils down to a software check, and by properly reversing the software this check can be altered/tricked.

So no, what they say is actually correct. It's not uncrackable, and will never be.
The point is that there's a difference between "not uncrackable" and "easy to crack". Denuvo is not uncrackable, but it's very hard to crack. And that's what they are counting on: being hard enough to crack that the games do not get released on the first weeks/months, which is when most of the sales occur.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Feb 2016 10:59    Post subject:
omg stop replying to someone named ButthurtHump
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Feb 2016 11:24    Post subject:
lolozaur wrote:
omg stop replying to someone named ButthurtHump


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Feb 2016 12:12    Post subject:
The_Leaf wrote:
ButthurtHump wrote:
Quote:
We recently spoke to Denuvo about their anti-piracy protection, which they openly admit isn't uncrackable, saying "we do not position our Anti-Tamper solution as uncrackable, only hard to crack." The aim is to give publishers and developers some breathing room, so there isn't a pirated version of games available during their first few crucial days on sale, when legitimate sales are at their highest.

The breathing room enjoyed by Rise of the Tomb Raider and Just Cause 3 has been particularly lengthy but, if 3DM's recent comments have substance, it might not be long now.


Translation : Our DRM is Uncrackable, but we dont want to admit it because we afraid of sh*tstorm from Legit users. Twisted Evil


Nonsense. By definition, if it can run on a local PC without a persistent internet connection, it is NOT uncrackable, unless there's dedicated hardware that enforces some kind of code signing verification (which there isn't on currrent PCs and current versions of windows). It's not a matter of opinion, it is just fact. No matter how complex the protection code, at the end it boils down to a software check, and by properly reversing the software this check can be altered/tricked.

So no, what they say is actually correct. It's not uncrackable, and will never be.
The point is that there's a difference between "not uncrackable" and "easy to crack". Denuvo is not uncrackable, but it's very hard to crack. And that's what they are counting on: being hard enough to crack that the games do not get released on the first weeks/months, which is when most of the sales occur.


Im only satisfied if they can crack new denovu games at day 1.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Feb 2016 12:12    Post subject:
The_Leaf wrote:


Nonsense. By definition, if it can run on a local PC without a persistent internet connection, it is NOT uncrackable, unless there's dedicated hardware that enforces some kind of code signing verification (which there isn't on currrent PCs and current versions of windows). It's not a matter of opinion, it is just fact. No matter how complex the protection code, at the end it boils down to a software check, and by properly reversing the software this check can be altered/tricked.

So no, what they say is actually correct. It's not uncrackable, and will never be.
The point is that there's a difference between "not uncrackable" and "easy to crack". Denuvo is not uncrackable, but it's very hard to crack. And that's what they are counting on: being hard enough to crack that the games do not get released on the first weeks/months, which is when most of the sales occur.


So RIP day One Piracy 1975 - 2015

We gonna wait at least one or two years for a single game to be cracked now ( since we know Denuvo is Updating their DRM when their DRM is cracked )

But Denuvo is Semi Online DRM though.

Change Your Computer Hardware ? Needs to Re-Verify your game.
Playing Offline for 24 Hours ? Needs to Re-Verify your game.

And most people said is Okay with this.....

Good thing most game nowadays is "Boring Repetitive Open World Shooter" though....


Rip AAA Gaming Piracy 198x (or 197x ?) - 2015


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Feb 2016 12:13    Post subject:
Hi boundle Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Feb 2016 12:17    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Feb 2016 12:20    Post subject:
Signature: Rip AAA Gaming Piracy 1982 - 2015 ?
ButthurtHump wrote:

So RIP day One Piracy 1975 - 2015




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Feb 2016 12:23    Post subject:
harry_theone wrote:
Signature: Rip AAA Gaming Piracy 1982 - 2015 ?
ButthurtHump wrote:

So RIP day One Piracy 1975 - 2015




I dont know when gaming piracy is started so i just guessing
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Feb 2016 15:44    Post subject:
Well, that takes some extra kind of special...


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Feb 2016 16:55    Post subject:
lolozaur wrote:
omg stop replying to someone named ButthurtHump

He did quite good and logical replay,so ,it's worth it Surprised .


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Feb 2016 17:10    Post subject:
I just want them to crack unravel Crying or Very sad (emotional breakdown)


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Feb 2016 17:19    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
I just want them to crack unravel Crying or Very sad (emotional breakdown)




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Feb 2016 17:22    Post subject:
I demand Boundle to release the Kraken! Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Feb 2016 22:30    Post subject:
272 days! That's how long one of the latest Denuvo-protected games from CI Games (Lords of the Fallen) has gone without being cracked. That’s simply unprecedented and it’s a testament to one of Denuvo’s core principles: always keep innovating. Our latest innovation, Denuvo Anti-Tamper, allows publishers to reap the benefits of stamping out all piracy attempts in the crucial first weeks of a title’s release. We’d love to do the same for you.


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Starforce stayed longer Razz thats for the unprecedented


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Feb 2016 22:35    Post subject:
kalato wrote:
272 days! That's how long one of the latest Denuvo-protected games from CI Games (Lords of the Fallen) has gone without being cracked. That’s simply unprecedented and it’s a testament to one of Denuvo’s core principles: always keep innovating. Our latest innovation, Denuvo Anti-Tamper, allows publishers to reap the benefits of stamping out all piracy attempts in the crucial first weeks of a title’s release. We’d love to do the same for you.
Right, a game that no one gave two shits about Laughing


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Feb 2016 22:40    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
kalato wrote:
272 days! That's how long one of the latest Denuvo-protected games from CI Games (Lords of the Fallen) has gone without being cracked. That’s simply unprecedented and it’s a testament to one of Denuvo’s core principles: always keep innovating. Our latest innovation, Denuvo Anti-Tamper, allows publishers to reap the benefits of stamping out all piracy attempts in the crucial first weeks of a title’s release. We’d love to do the same for you.
Right, a game that no one gave two shits about Laughing

For once in my life, I agree with toni Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Feb 2016 02:06    Post subject:
I hope that if 3DM's-"Solution" is coming up soon,and it's for "various of games" like they are saying, it might be they gone Reloaded way with statfroce and beated it at base,and with that Denuvo's games will be cracked faster but who knows....


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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Feb 2016 02:31    Post subject:
statfroce ? Scratch Head Wink


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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Feb 2016 08:46    Post subject:
imo it is clear to see that 3dm talks a load of bullshit. If they ve got a soltuion they've got a solution so where is it? They either have solution and are withholding coz they have a deal with some publishers or they got threatened so it wont take long until they get bashed anyways.
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Feb 2016 10:14    Post subject:
JackQ wrote:
I hope that if 3DM's-"Solution" is coming up soon,and it's for "various of games" like they are saying, it might be they gone Reloaded way with statfroce and beated it at base,and with that Denuvo's games will be cracked faster but who knows....


Probably another Offline abuse trick like Felix Method & Deadnuvo Corepack & Fake Skidrow Site Method which is... already dead on arrival...


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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Feb 2016 11:23    Post subject:
lametta wrote:
imo it is clear to see that 3dm talks a load of bullshit. If they ve got a soltuion they've got a solution so where is it? They either have solution and are withholding coz they have a deal with some publishers or they got threatened so it wont take long until they get bashed anyways.


They want people to come on their website to check their crack status, so that 3DM get more pageviews (more ads revenue, I guess). Maybe we'll even soon see trailers for upcoming cracks Laughing
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