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Both Valve and Oculus have "infinite" internal R&D budgets.. if VR doesn't take off now, then it will never do (until real holograms are invented or something, of course).
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Mon, 22nd Feb 2016 19:15 Post subject: |
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Some minor HL3 and L4D3 stuff found their way in the demo because they share the same engine: https://steamdb.info/blog/mining-the-aperture-robot-repair-vr-demo/
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c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\client\hl3\c_point_quest_goal.h
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\generated_protovr\win64\hl3_usermessages.pb.cc
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\entity_persist.h
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\gravity_vortex_controller.h
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\info_quest_dialog.h
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\npc_quest_citizen.cpp
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\npc_quest_citizen.h
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\npc_turret_ceiling_pulse.cpp
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\partial_entity_manager.cpp
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\point_quest_goal.cpp
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\procedural_spawn_constraint.cpp
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\procedural_spawn_constraint.h
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\procedural_spawn_manager.cpp
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\procedural_spawn_manager.h
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\procedural_spawn_target.cpp
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\procedural_spawn_target.h
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\procedural_spawn_template.cpp
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\procedural_spawn_template.h
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\procedural_spawn_volume.cpp
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\procedural_spawn_volume.h
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\procspawn_bias_line.cpp
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\procspawn_bias_line.h
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\procspawn_modifier.cpp
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\procspawn_variable.cpp
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\prop_fixed.cpp
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\server\hl3\utllogicconstraintsolver.h
c:\buildslave\source2_win64\build\src\game\shared\hl3\hl3_vscriptgamesystem.cpp
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| Quote: | Engineer textures
These textures probably belong to the earlier leaked L4D3 character "Retired Engineer". |
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2016 11:20 Post subject: |
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The clock in the demo shows the correct time 
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2016 12:02 Post subject: |
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Speaking of VR - anyone know if there will be any realistic tank simulators with VR support? (with full interior of the tank etc etc)
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2016 12:30 Post subject: |
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Probably.
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2016 12:31 Post subject: |
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I can't see this technology succeed yet. Too pricey and exclusive - and too costly in terms of performance.
Maybe in 5-10 years.
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2016 12:40 Post subject: |
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| Casus wrote: | I can't see this technology succeed yet. Too pricey and exclusive - and too costly in terms of performance.
Maybe in 5-10 years. |
Dunno tbh - if they can sell gfx cards for hundreds of euro daily - I cant see any reason why they cant sell these.
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2016 12:51 Post subject: |
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Without the R&D happening right now there will be no technology to succeed in 5-10 years. So hopefully commercially it will do just enough for R&D to last 5-10 years.
Valve can spend an inifinite amount of money on it (they have been playing with machines costing an enormous amount of money for years now*) but hardware manufacturers, like HTC, will want to sell a minimum amount of units.
* Examples:
2010 interview:
| Quote: | Gabe Newell: Oh internally yeah, we do gaze tracking. We've got this $50,000 system – it's a lab system for doing gaze tracking.
Doug Lombardi: That was way more valuable than we expected it to be, influencing work pretty much immediately. |
2011 interview:
| Quote: | Stating that the future of this tech is very "science-fictiony", Gabe Newell also revealed that Valve is currently talking to a company that implants EEG (electroencephalography) equipment into people's skulls, providing a comprehensive flow of raw information about the body.
"It's about a $60,000 operation right now but it gives you fantastic data that you could use. Eventually you're going to reach the point where it's a reasonable consumer option, as strange as that sounds, and very much reminds me of science fiction stories out of the nineteen-fifties about embedded phones and things like that. But at some point there are going to be sort of increasingly accurate, increasingly sophisticated sources of data about what's going on in your body and in your brain." |
2011 presentation:
| Quote: | | Valve showed off facial recognition software and 10,000 dollar eye-tracking tech. They used the latter to play a short section of Portal 2, where the player uses their eyes to aim the cursor, and their hands to move around the environment. According to Ambinder, "The eye tracker is used to extract eye's X Y position. This data is updated at 60hz, before being fed back into the game engine." |
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2016 12:54 Post subject: |
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| Ankh wrote: | | Casus wrote: | I can't see this technology succeed yet. Too pricey and exclusive - and too costly in terms of performance.
Maybe in 5-10 years. |
Dunno tbh - if they can sell gfx cards for hundreds of euro daily - I cant see any reason why they cant sell these. |
The thing about expensive GFX cards is that you can play most games without them.
You're not likely to be able to play a VR game without VR technology.
That means developers will either have to:
A. Develop the game as both VR and non-VR = fewer resources dedicated to each branch - and a somewhat conflicted design.
B. Ignore those with or without VR technology = smaller audience = less profit.
In the end, it depends on the games.
If they manage to release that one killer game that's so much better with VR - maybe they'll break the barrier of entry for people.
I just don't see it happening.
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2016 13:04 Post subject: |
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| Ankh wrote: | Actually, you can play pretty much any game while you got your VR on. Virtual Desktop makes sure of that  big bloody screen infront of you  |
That's not VR, that's "big bloody screen".
| Ankh wrote: | | Dvd came when most people still had VHS and people used pretty much the same words as you do back then regarding dvd |
DVD was getting from the start the latest blockbuster pictures of Hollywood, VR won't be getting the equivalent in games.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2016 13:10 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2016 13:10 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2016 15:12 Post subject: |
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Capable but not ready with i5 and GTX 970. It`s a Inno3d one 
Makes noise like it is about to return to its homeplanet during the test
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2016 17:57 Post subject: |
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With SLI
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Without SLI
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Better performance without.....
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2016 18:02 Post subject: |
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SLI is not being used unless you add -multigpu in the launch options.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2016 18:03 Post subject: |
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I dont know if SLI still suffers from microstuttering so much but if it does it will be really bad for VR anyway, since it would render people sick.
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Feb 2016 18:27 Post subject: |
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| Bob Barnsen wrote: | | And still no Euro price. |
Probably discussing among themselves with how much screwing us over they can get away with!  |
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