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russ80
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Stige is like an AMD clone of myself, a very sucky, low budget one though.
Main PC : I7 12700, MSI Ventus RTX 4090 24gb, Alienware AW3423DW QD-OLED
Laptop : I5 4200H @ 3400mhz boost, GTX 850m 2gb Vram DDR3, 4gb RAM DDR3
Derpsole : Playstation 5 disc edition, Ninty Switcherino
TV+audio: LG CX 65" / Sonos ARC + SL ones + Sonos sub 3
VR Headset: Meta quest 2 airlinked
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Stige
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couleur
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Guys pls. Its not like we're not having this "conversation" twice per page and once per news.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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Danyutz
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Apr 2016 10:07 Post subject: |
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Due to recent crashes with my R9 and the lack of proper drivers, i've switched sides to nV.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Apr 2016 11:13 Post subject: |
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| Danyutz wrote: | | Due to recent crashes with my R9 and the lack of proper drivers, i've switched sides to nV. |
you sold the 390 and got what? Please do provide more feedback on the experience with NV as compared to AMD.
I think the most interesting observation can come from people that use both vendors in a very short period of actual every day usage.
Paints a much better picture than the ones review sites do.
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Danyutz
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Apr 2016 11:42 Post subject: |
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Moved to MSi 970, just installed it yesterday and played for 1 hour. Can't really provide more information at this point.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Apr 2016 11:47 Post subject: |
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Cool, yeah, I meant keep us posted once you get more time in, and especially if you get to play the same games you did on the 390. Just the overall experience. It might help someone make a choice for next gen.
Did you get the 4g MSI or the other one? If you got the 4g one, it's worth looking into OCing, and a custom bios, as you can get an easy 10-15 fps boost in 60fps target scenarios, and 30+fps in 100+fps target scenarios for free, with the stock cooler.
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russ80
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Apr 2016 11:47 Post subject: |
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Stige
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Apr 2016 11:56 Post subject: |
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| Drowning_witch wrote: | | Danyutz wrote: | | Due to recent crashes with my R9 and the lack of proper drivers, i've switched sides to nV. |
you sold the 390 and got what? Please do provide more feedback on the experience with NV as compared to AMD.
I think the most interesting observation can come from people that use both vendors in a very short period of actual every day usage.
Paints a much better picture than the ones review sites do. |
| Drowning_witch wrote: | Cool, yeah, I meant keep us posted once you get more time in, and especially if you get to play the same games you did on the 390. Just the overall experience. It might help someone make a choice for next gen.
Did you get the 4g MSI or the other one? If you got the 4g one, it's worth looking into OCing, and a custom bios, as you can get an easy 10-15 fps boost in 60fps target scenarios, and 30+fps in 100+fps target scenarios for free, with the stock cooler. |
But if he had a broken card to begin with (the 390) then there isn't much to compare really.
I'm just assuming it was a bricked card and not a user error.
Also how will old cards help make a decision for next generation when we don't know anything about the next gen cards yet?
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Danyutz
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Apr 2016 12:09 Post subject: |
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It is the 4g model yes.
@Stige, idk about the card being bricked or not, because it worked fine before I upgraded.
Only managed to play Division and I got constant 60fps with both cards ( after upgrade ).
The only difference is the obvious temps, I got up to 80 with R9 and 65 with 970.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Apr 2016 12:17 Post subject: |
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If drivers are the reason to switch, you'll be back on AMD soon enough.
364.72 is so crap it's not even funny anymore. I was aware of the issues people were having and reverted as soon as I got a hard reset too. And it's not as if there's any sign of a hotfix, it being pulled or anything. Just goes to show how useless the WHQL certification is.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Apr 2016 12:26 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: | If drivers are the reason to switch, you'll be back on AMD soon enough.
364.72 is so crap it's not even funny anymore. I was aware of the issues people were having and reverted as soon as I got a hard reset too. And it's not as if there's any sign of a hotfix, it being pulled or anything. Just goes to show how useless the WHQL certification is. |
The fuck is going on for both AMD and Nvidia with that at the moment? Both have been gradually declining although with varying "parts" of the driver such as say multi-GPU support.
(It took like eight months for AMD to solve the Fury screen corruption and clock speed jumping around and it's more of a workaround than a full fix to name one example.)
(Don't have a Nvidia GPU currently so I can't really give a example there other than what I read on forums and stuff like the known issues section of the driver release notes.)
Are they rushing for D3D12 and Vulkan implementation and optimization or something or focusing on the upcoming GPU models more?
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Danyutz
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Apr 2016 12:26 Post subject: |
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Yes, read about the issues, I just installed earlier driver, i think .51.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Apr 2016 12:32 Post subject: |
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Yep, the latest Nvidia drivers are a joke. Had problems with them too. Mostly that my PC would crash while the monitor was in standby.
Currently using 362.00 since a few weeks without problems.
Enthoo Evolv ATX TG // Asus Prime x370 // Ryzen 1700 // Gainward GTX 1080 // 16GB DDR4-3200
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Danyutz
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Apr 2016 12:46 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Apr 2016 13:03 Post subject: |
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it was the last working driver for me.
every other driver after that gave me a a random colorful screen, after some time. sometimes nothing happend for 2 days and then it happened again. just while doing nothing then using chrome.
seeing the latest comments on nvidia.com on the latest driver release, nvidia doesn't have a clue what is going on right now. but that is ok for me as long as we still got a working driver, even if its a little bit older. everything is running fine with it.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Apr 2016 13:25 Post subject: |
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I'm on 361.75 right now, the last driver that worked without problems for me.
| JBeckman wrote: | The fuck is going on for both AMD and Nvidia with that at the moment? Both have been gradually declining although with varying "parts" of the driver such as say multi-GPU support.
(It took like eight months for AMD to solve the Fury screen corruption and clock speed jumping around and it's more of a workaround than a full fix to name one example.)
(Don't have a Nvidia GPU currently so I can't really give a example there other than what I read on forums and stuff like the known issues section of the driver release notes.)
Are they rushing for D3D12 and Vulkan implementation and optimization or something or focusing on the upcoming GPU models more? |
This isn't really new for Nvidia, they tend to break shit with every other release, despite what certain people claim. But lately every release seems to be broken. In my case, I'm pretty sure a lot of it is down to the fact that I run 2 monitors, it's something they still haven't got working without problems after all these years.
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yep, issues seem to be happening to multi monitor users, sleep/hybernate and similar tech, and SLI.
single monitor, single GPU users that avoid the above tech, are still the golden spot. I guess that's why I'm issue free 99.9 % of time.
Last issues i've had was custom resolutions being broken on win10 release for 2-3 drivers sets, when they made it work, and before that all the way back to 2009ish when Risen 1 was released, when I had to downgrade drivers to prevent constant stuttering.
Oh yeah, and ac unity helix missions also had corruption with sets newer than 347, which i'm not sure if they ever fixed in newer drivers since I finished the game with 347 and never looked back.
| Danyutz wrote: | It is the 4g model yes.
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Truly a beast with a custom bios.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Apr 2016 14:39 Post subject: |
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I've had an occasional driver failure each month on my dual monitor setup since 5 years now..
it is somehow connected to the dual monitor setup, and not shutting down the pc I figure
once the driver crashes it begins to crash regularly while gaming, until I shutdown my pc for 2min and then it's ready to go again, seems like memory fragmentation/corruption or something that builds over time and at some point the pc/driver can't compensate
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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JBeckman
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Stige
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proekaan
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JBeckman
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Stige
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Apr 2016 15:44 Post subject: |
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| proekaan wrote: | | Was wondering that too for a moment,but then I noticed they were talking about the driver causing cards to fry. |
But there were also meantions of these weird issues, cards frying would not be anything new for Nvidia but yeah it is kinda hard to believe without proof, the other issues not so much though.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Apr 2016 17:27 Post subject: |
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Aaaaaand most people ignore the postings of fanderps...
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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) then it would use GDDR5 and not GDDR5X. but what do I know. 
