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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2016 06:43    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
http://slickdeals.net/f/8665278-gigabyte-geforce-gtx-980-ti-6gb-xtreme-gaming-edition-the-division-game-534-99-after-10-coupon-50-rebate

In case anyone here wants some freedom pricing on a bad ass card.



Amazing deal. If the promo code worked in Polandball and I didn't have to pay a shitload for shipping Sad

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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2016 13:52    Post subject:
It's best not even to ever look at hardware prices the states get. If there's anything that would make me join ISIS, it's the goal of getting better hardware prices in the rest of the world Troll Face

And now you made me look and realize the cheapest 980ti in Croatia is just 350 bucks more than this deal. Laughing Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2016 13:54    Post subject:
We really need to make some sorta yank forwarding service for the euros. Laughing

Does gift packages circumvent VAT and customs on electronics?
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2016 14:09    Post subject:
farne wrote:
We really need to make some sorta yank forwarding service for the euros. Laughing

Does gift packages circumvent VAT and customs on electronics?


Yes it does most of the time.
And the trick chinese use is ditch the original packaging = item is used and not new anymore. Then you can just slap a "value 10$" on it.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2016 15:14    Post subject:
farne wrote:
Does gift packages circumvent VAT and customs on electronics?


Only up to a certain limit, which is very small and never enough for "retail" PC hardware. As Stige said, ditching the original packaging and making sure it doesn't have a registered business invoice address will often allow it skim through customs and not be flagged.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2016 16:11    Post subject:
It's happening:

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-allegedly-pictured/


That new reference cooler design looks awesome though.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2016 16:36    Post subject:
Even better deal

http://slickdeals.net/f/8665278-gigabyte-geforce-gtx-980-ti-6gb-xtreme-gaming-edition-the-division-game-534-99-after-10-coupon-50-rebate

I've offered sending hardware overseas before, dunno if it'd pay off in the end though work shipping


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2016 16:39    Post subject:
You posted the same link yourself already before. Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2016 17:03    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
You posted the same link yourself already before. Laughing


Lmao I thought I posted the msi card from Amazon yesterday lol
http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=overclockdotnet-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FMSI-GAMING-GTX-980TI-GOLDEN%2Fdp%2FB0166T31O0%2F

It was 575
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2016 18:02    Post subject:
If anyone wants to give this freedom deal a test run hit me up


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2016 18:07    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
If anyone wants to give this freedom deal a test run hit me up


Sure, if you're paying Very Happy Troll Dad
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2016 18:10    Post subject:
547€ löl

value for money? Cheapest in finland is 680€.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2016 18:15    Post subject:
One thing to mention is the rebates may not be worth the hassle since they take 3+ months to mail those out and send visa cards now and only to the shipping address the item was mailed to


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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2016 09:37    Post subject:
http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/new_amd_roadmap_gives_more_insight_in_polaris_10_and_11.html

Updated roadmap for AMD GPU's.

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A new roadmap appeared online from AMD, in this roadmap you can spot some plans and positioning for the future graphics cards based on the Polaris 10 and 11 GPU design. The roadmap also makes it pretty clear that there will be no rebrands.

The new slide shows product positioning of Polaris and confirms that Polaris 11 will be a more mainstream model with the Polaris 10 to be a high-end SKU series. Polaris 10 is "Ellesmere" and Polaris 11 is "Baffin.

We think it is safe to say that Polaris 10 will be the R9 490X series with 490 and 480 models (high-end). Polaris 11 will be the GPU replacing the 370 and 360 products, likely R7 470 and R9 470. It is unlikely that AMD will announce all products at once, so we expect Polaris 10 appear first around the Computex timeframe with an official launch later. Polaris introduces HVEC (h.265) decode and encode hardware-acceleration and will also support the latest display output standards like DisplayPort 1.3 (how does 3840x2160 @ 120Hz and 1920x1080 @ 480Hz sound?) and of course, HDMI 2.0.

The roadmap also confirms that the Vega architecture is to be released in 2017. Vega will het HBM2 memory and the successor to the current (enthusiast) Fury models. Later on in 2018 the NAVI architecture will be released, positioned with 'next-gen' memory.

In a recent find AMD Polaris 11 was spotted, Device ID 67FF:C8 codenamed “Goose”. This would be the base GPU for a several entry-level products. Now, the CompuBench database reports back that this device has 16 CUs with a maximum clock frequency of 1000 MHz. Multiple your CUs (compute units) by the number of shader processors per cluster (assuming that AMD keeps 64 per cluster) and you'll notice that Polaris 11 in this configuration has 1024 Shader processors tied to a 128-bit bus and 2048 MB of memory.

Polaris 10, codenamed "Ellesmere," would then feature over 2304 stream processors (36 CUs); and Vega 10 featuring 4096 stream processors, with 64 CUs. Things could end up looking like this:


Mind you that the specs shown in the CompuBench database might not be the full unlocked GPUs, so the CU numbers might even be higher. Which makes this news-item very speculative. We are inclined to say that Polaris 10 really would get 2560 shader processors.

Please click the thumbnail below to see the new roadmap slide.
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2016 13:49    Post subject:
So 480, 480X, 490 and 490X are all Polaris 10? I guess that makes more sense than not releasing a high-end card this year.


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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2016 15:09    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Apr 2016 08:05    Post subject:
Been reading that new rumored price leak on overclock.net (same prices as on 970 and 980 at release), people seems to be derps in that forum, they really think you can get same or faster 980ti performance at 400 dollars, what the fuck really (okay totally plausible if this would be many years back and when nvidia did not sell their mid range cut down chips at premium price, but knowing nvidia now they wont release card that is like 50% faster than their top end card now with much less price, im personally very skeptic about that 50% faster speculation aswell).

EDIT:

http://videocardz.com/59248/amd-officially-confirms-polaris-10-and-polaris-11-market-positioning

Sounds like Nvidia will roll over AMD this time until Vega comes, very disappointing.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Apr 2016 11:41    Post subject:
I'm just holding out hope that they have recently begun considering the x90 and x90X cards "mainstream", otherwise I officially don't know what the fuck AMD is doing.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Apr 2016 11:54    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Been reading that new rumored price leak on overclock.net (same prices as on 970 and 980 at release), people seems to be derps in that forum, they really think you can get same or faster 980ti performance at 400 dollars, what the fuck really (okay totally plausible if this would be many years back and when nvidia did not sell their mid range cut down chips at premium price, but knowing nvidia now they wont release card that is like 50% faster than their top end card now with much less price, im personally very skeptic about that 50% faster speculation aswell).

EDIT:

http://videocardz.com/59248/amd-officially-confirms-polaris-10-and-polaris-11-market-positioning

Sounds like Nvidia will roll over AMD this time until Vega comes, very disappointing.


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Apr 2016 12:36    Post subject:
Sauronich wrote:
I'm just holding out hope that they have recently begun considering the x90 and x90X cards "mainstream", otherwise I officially don't know what the fuck AMD is doing.


Without knowing much,isn't for example GTX 970 mainstream GPU and AMD just targets that segment first.
And hasn't that been the case with AMD? First releasing the mainstream cards and then the high end ones?


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Apr 2016 16:20    Post subject:
Stige wrote:
547€ löl

value for money? Cheapest in finland is 680€.


There were already a few 980 Ti for 599€ deals in Finland. (MSI Gaming LE & Asus STRIX)


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Apr 2016 20:17    Post subject:
freaking awesome job.


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Apr 2016 20:50    Post subject:
I will never understand how cpu works. NEVER. I've watched few videos and stuff and I still dont get it.
I mean, there are billions of transistor which are somehow on that small plate... connected to each other, taking input and making output.... out of 0 and 1s.... I know. Big derp Laughing

Recently I am finding myself looking at electron microscope images of microchips and there is jsut one explanation... ALIENS.

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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Apr 2016 21:27    Post subject:
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I will never understand how cpu works. NEVER. I've watched few videos and stuff and I still dont get it.

Understanding cpus in principle isn't that crazy though. Have you watched simple educational videos about it?
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Apr 2016 21:42    Post subject:
Nui wrote:
KillerCrocker wrote:
I will never understand how cpu works. NEVER. I've watched few videos and stuff and I still dont get it.

Understanding cpus in principle isn't that crazy though. Have you watched simple educational videos about it?

I did watched a couple but they always say "There are billions of transistors emiting presence or absence of power, then outputting it".
Without any actual information. And the pictures they shw are always too zoomed, without steps and I cant really see how the structure looks. I will search for more videos on yt on some lazy day in work Laughing

It's a super interesting and fascinating topic. We finally are reaching 14nm this year and that just got me to look up info on microchips. I will some day understand the process of how, moving a physical object (mouse) is making it move on the screen Laughing
I understand all the theory in principle but the real detail is not so easy to comprehend.
And to think that someone found this out... its just crazy. But again, someone thought it's a great idea to boil chicken egg or too get milk and squeeze it for hours to get cheese and then eat it! Someone had to be a first guy to think "let's take that thing which grows there, smash it, mix it with that thing, then add that thing, cook for exactly this long and voila" !
Sorry, I am to philosophical today


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Apr 2016 22:07    Post subject:
I'd say lecture material on a basic cpu works well to understanding how a cpu works in principle. Unfortunately I dont have such a thing at hand. Perhaps you find some material about 'mips' like this
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Though i'm not sure how easy this particular "lecture" is to grasp or how complete it is, so I cannot actually recommend this one. Its just an example Razz

In addtion you'd probably want to understand how basic logic gates work in hardware. Then you'd already have a nice basis.

With regards to how people managed to build this stuff, is probably less magical than the invention of bread to me (that I actually wonder about... how do you come up with that? Laughing). Anyway they started simple and added complexity. Thats what made it feasible I'd say.

This is totally off topic... talking about the workings of cpus in a gpu thread ffs Razz
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Apr 2016 22:30    Post subject:
I mean, GPU is just a cpu among other components isnt it?
So it's not offtopic!


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Apr 2016 22:46    Post subject:
Well yeah, it should share great similarities, but you should start with a simple cpu. Still this should go into a new topic. "Computer theory" or something and when that reaches a high enough level one could perhaps talk about it here as well, when it bares meaning to current gpu design Smile

In fact I wouldn't learning more about this stuff in such a topic. Then we could possibly follow werelds reasoning about dx12 features better for example Very Happy
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