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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 11:44    Post subject:
paxsali wrote:
@blackeyedboy
Ok, but then you have to consider than even with keyboard there might be some kind of controller "simulation" going on so you have to (maybe) find the right timing, which may be slightly off to actual mechanical simultaneous press.


Indeed, it may. I noticed the (annoying) slight delay in the rolling command, as there is a check on input key/button(?) to understand the command: run or roll.

Trust me, I tried to handle it in milliseconds and it still didn't respond. I am referring to the jump-attack command. The kick is more or less "mastered".

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DarkRohirrim




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 11:51    Post subject:
It has nothing to do with mouse and keyboard. It's just the game's controls and how they work in general. I could do the kick and jump attack just fine. It wasn't always working, but that's because I was messing up the input. You need to press forward + light / heavy attack at the same time. I think they should have melded both into the jump key binding (the one that's separate to the roll / run one). I have that binded to F as I prefer jumping like that, if they did that, pressing F on it's own could do the kick, while holding F + heavy attack would do the jump attack. It's baffling how little thought some devs put into the way their game controls.

Oh, and you jump without rolling by letting go of whatever movement key you're using (obviously it's W / forward usually) as you jump.


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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 11:56    Post subject:
DarkRohirrim wrote:
It's baffling how little thought some devs put into the way their game controls.


Pretty much this.

How hard would have been to have a special, unique key for kick, one for jump, one for roll?!

But nheuuu... let's'a make'a sheo da game iz hart. Yu no like?! Yu do harakiri!

paxsali wrote:
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But honestly I cannot feel no compassion with you guys.

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD BUY AND USE A CONTROLLER!


Not yet ready for harakiri, man.


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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 12:09    Post subject:
Even on a gamepad I fail to execute kicks and jumping r2 attacks consistently Sad


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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 12:13    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
Even on a gamepad I fail to execute kicks and jumping r2 attacks consistently Sad


This. For jumping attacks I just do run+R2
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 12:15    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
Even on a gamepad I fail to execute kicks and jumping r2 attacks consistently Sad

Which is what I'm saying. It has nothing to do with mouse and keyboard. Or anything to do with a gamepad. It has to do with the game's nonsensical controls in general.

I for one find the mouse and keyboard as a control method just fine, in the entire series. Most people that say it sucks, just suck at using said control method, I'm pretty convinced of that at this point. Which is fine, I suck at using the gamepad, I barely have one at this point and have no desire in playing games with one. I find it uncomfortable.
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 12:29    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 12:29    Post subject:
Thanks.


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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 14:53    Post subject:
That pack of mobs mauled my face at least 2 times before i succeeded :@
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 15:25    Post subject:
For me, the only way of doing a kick is pressing W on the keyboard and R1 Very Happy
Pushing the stick and asynchronously the attack is fucked up as well - I usually start moving and then attack instead of a kick.
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 15:43    Post subject:
@paxsali
Those birdmen are the worst. If there are two or more of them, in most cases it means you will get raped.

I prefer taking out their mother first with ranged attacks, then pull the slaves one by one.

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And yes, kicks and jumping attacks are a pain to execute - at least on gamepad.

Same for normal jumping too though. You have to sprint and then press the left stick for the jump. Often i keep changing the camera while i press the thumbstick, which often resulted in a jump of death. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 18:49    Post subject:
If i equip the Farrons Keepers or Aldrich covenant, must i be in their dedicated zones to attack intruders, or doesn't it matter?
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 19:03    Post subject:
when i wear the way of the blue covenant and i´m embered, does it mean, that if a red phantom comes, a blue sentinel will come and help me?

or does it also mean, when a white phantom is beeing invaded, i (with way of blue equipped and beeing not embered) will automacially be summond into the white phantoms world?

i´m confused
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 19:27    Post subject:
Update v1.4 and regulations v1.5 is announced in jp site. No info when it will be out. Have to wait for proper changelog in english Very Happy

Google translate for now

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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 19:31    Post subject:
@pfeiffchen

You won't be summoned.At least according to wiki

@demde

No balance fixes at all? Disappointing.


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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 20:22    Post subject:
pfeiffchen wrote:
when i wear the way of the blue covenant and i´m embered, does it mean, that if a red phantom comes, a blue sentinel will come and help me?
That seems to be completely broken. I'm 75 hours in, probably 60-65 using the blue sentinels item and wasn't summoned
one
single
fucking
time

Great job there, from Laughing Sad


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4treyu




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 20:46    Post subject:
pfeiffchen wrote:
when i wear the way of the blue covenant and i´m embered, does it mean, that if a red phantom comes, a blue sentinel will come and help me?

or does it also mean, when a white phantom is beeing invaded, i (with way of blue equipped and beeing not embered) will automacially be summond into the white phantoms world?

i´m confused


If you're way of the blue you receive help from blue sentinels. If you're blue sentinels you should get auto-summoned to the world of a way of the blue member who has been invaded.

At least that's how it should work in theory Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 21:29    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 21:43    Post subject:
I will try it later today or tomorrow my friend.


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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 21:46    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:


2001 version: (fucking fantastic game)


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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 22:00    Post subject:
severance was awesome, and the first game with the nice shadows (for that time)
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 22:12    Post subject:
Yep Severance was awesome. And so were Die by the Sword and Rune at that time. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 22:21    Post subject:
what spell does the weapon engulf in lightning? u often see that in videos, weapons with yellow lightnings
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 22:23    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Yep Severance was awesome. And so were Die by the Sword and Rune at that time. Very Happy

I played the heck out of all those. Especially Severance and Die by the sword. Mouse fighting and making Your own moves was something else. And You could cut polygon triangles out of enemy pigs models Laughing


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4treyu




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 22:25    Post subject:
pfeiffchen wrote:
what spell does the weapon engulf in lightning? u often see that in videos, weapons with yellow lightnings


You can also use consumables for that.
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 23:06    Post subject:
@KillerCrocker
Yea man. Very Happy


@pfeiffchen
Use this:
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Gold+Pine+Resin


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4treyu




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2016 23:16    Post subject:
looooool, just got Soul of Cinder first try (and got even poisoned mid fight with no time to apply cure which wasn't equipped in a quick slot) right after I finally managed to beat Nameless King. I guess that's the kind of "training" Nameless King represents before fighting any other boss Laughing

Now on to see the ending Very Happy Crying or Very sad


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