Forza Motorsport 6: Apex
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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th May 2016 21:37    Post subject:
Can't be played on LTSB w/out store?
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Janz




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th May 2016 21:40    Post subject:
without store -> no store apps. so no, no chance
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th May 2016 21:57    Post subject:
Kaltern wrote:
Quote:
Known launch issues:

* The game is crap.

* The game is designed to make you feel inferior while cool Xbox One owners are playing a fully developed game, rather than an attepted cash grab.

* The game is incredibly limited in scope, and has no real gameplay to speak of.

* It uses Windows Store. We're really sorry about that, and there is no fix planned.

Laughing

We had to find the good trade-off. Yes perhaps you don't have a career, multiplayer, wheel support, you have six locations instead of 26 and some dozens of cars less (who cares about them anyway), but have you seen how beautiful it looks in 4K*?
Upgrade to Windows 10 now, and you can share all the beautiful Forza Ape HD screenshots with your friends for free!
And don't forget, if there are issues, it's because it's a beta

*only on the experimental single Titan Deluxe 2.0
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polosistealth




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th May 2016 22:06    Post subject:
Silent_Lurker wrote:
polosistealth wrote:
where is the game folder in windows 10? Confused Shocked


As JB said.

Also you can choose where you want to install Store apps (games now ?), in a funny way :

- push the windows key
(start menu shows up)
- type STORAGE
- click STORAGE in the result list

and voilà you can change the drive to put this 16GB "demo" Wink

i allready installed the game... where is on C: ?

i have some hitches driving at night?...


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Janz




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th May 2016 22:11    Post subject:
there where jbeckman said.

JBeckman wrote:
If you didn't move it it's a protected folder hidden from normal view.

C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\*


but you cant get there (on a normal way)
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Kaltern




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th May 2016 22:23    Post subject:
Because Microsoft are making our lives easier by taking over those things we don't need to know about.... Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Thu, 5th May 2016 22:36    Post subject:
Yep.

You have to call your administrator to access this folder. Whirling cane


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2016 01:51    Post subject:
Tested it. I'm.... not really impressed :\ There's no real world tour mode, just 12 events, and a free drive mode but it feels anaemic to say the least. Handling feels like any typical arcade-sim, no better than Grid 2/AS but slightly above GT5/6. Visuals are probably the most disappointing thing yet and despite having everything on High (with a couple things on Ultra) it looks thoroughly underwhelming - I'd go as far as to say Grid Autosport looks much better and Assetto Corsa/Project Cars are in another universe - and the performance can be sketchy from time to time, it started off defaulting to "Dynamic Medium" (Laughing) and I had to crank everything up manually, which causes random hitching and even more bizarre substantial framedrops in certain situations but racing itself is largely a 60fps experience.

Overall? Not impressed and considering the barebones feel and style of the game, compared to the chunky bigboy The Way MS Wants You To Play© edition, I won't be keeping it installed. Oh and if you want to unlock cars early (before you've played and acquired the "tokens" they require to be unlocked) then you have to buy them... for me it was 9.00kr per car - that's roughly 76p or €0.97 each.
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polosistealth




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2016 06:22    Post subject:
the hitching is from eating to much VRAM.... in MSI afterburner i have over 3.5GB VRAM used at FullHD and ultra details (this occurs only at night driving)


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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2016 11:57    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:

Visuals are probably the most disappointing thing yet and despite having everything on High (with a couple things on Ultra) it looks thoroughly underwhelming - I'd go as far as to say Grid Autosport looks much better and Assetto Corsa/Project Cars are in another universe


I respect your opinion but I strongly disagree. Grid Autosport looks like a complete trash compared to this and neither Asettor Corsa nor Projects Cars is looking better than this even though they perform (fps) a lot worse than this one. Only game better than this visually would be DriveClub if it were running on a PC with high res because lighting in that game is top notch.
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Janz




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2016 12:58    Post subject:
its a shame that the rain system isnt dynamic -> puddles are pre made and always at the same place

otherwise this game can look great on pc (if you have enough power). works fine with medium details here with my old 2gb 770. but sometimes slowdowns, dunno why yet
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2016 13:46    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
without store -> no store apps. so no, no chance



Forza Motorsport 6 Apex (Beta-3DM)

anybody without win10 tried it?
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2016 13:47    Post subject:
alg68 wrote:
Janz wrote:
without store -> no store apps. so no, no chance



Forza Motorsport 6 Apex (Beta-3DM)

anybody without win10 tried it?
Er... did they also port DX12 -> DX11 or something? Laughing


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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Janz




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2016 14:01    Post subject:
@alg68: doenst work without 10 cause it needs xbox and store runtimes! same as for quantum break or gears of war. and its not "cracked", maybe just one file modified like the quantum break workaround, but why would anyone do that on a free game?

@toni: its dx12 only, so your point is valid Razz
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2016 14:04    Post subject:
forza 6 PC Aww Yeah Aww Yeah Aww Yeah Aww Yeah Aww Yeah Aww Yeah Aww Yeah


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alg68




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2016 14:04    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
alg68 wrote:
Janz wrote:
without store -> no store apps. so no, no chance



Forza Motorsport 6 Apex (Beta-3DM)

anybody without win10 tried it?
Er... did they also port DX12 -> DX11 or something? Laughing


didn't know sorry.. why the f.king kids did a torrent..
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guvna




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2016 17:01    Post subject:
It's not bad imo. Runs ok (60fps solid, medium/low, 1080p) on my oldish rig besides some stuttering. Looks nice enough.
The handling feels delayed and boat like though, like some funky ass assisted steering sensitivity and stability is happening. Playing on a controller. I'm sure vsync doesn't help the delayed feeling.
With better steering response I can see myself playing a bit. Will try again when it has wheel support.

The narrator made me burst out laughing after the first race when he was talking about assists and said simulation like 4 times in 1 sentence. Subtle much?
What's so bad about being an arcade game I dunno but that's what you are forza, accept it! Razz


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Janz




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2016 17:02    Post subject:
you disabled every assist? in the first race everything is turned on, you need to disable everything by yourself and set the driving model to sim (which isnt full sim at all ofc)
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guvna




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2016 17:03    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
you disabled every assist? in the first race everything is turned on, you need to disable everything by yourself and set the driving model to sim (which isnt full sim at all ofc)

Yeah mate ofcourse. It's the first thing I did (when it actually let me have some form of control)
I should have said the first real race and not that tutorial thing.
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alucard_xs




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2016 18:16    Post subject:
damn Windows store (Windows 10 Inside), I can't download anything, forza 6, downloading starts but that's all even no 0 %, quantum break update, does not even show anymore in my downloading lists ... Is it normal ?

I tried wsreset with no success, still the same problems
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2016 18:46    Post subject:
alucard_xs wrote:
damn Windows store (Windows 10 Inside), I can't download anything, forza 6, downloading starts but that's all even no 0 %, quantum break update, does not even show anymore in my downloading lists ... Is it normal ?

I tried wsreset with no success, still the same problems
Hope you didn't pay for those Laughing


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2016 20:56    Post subject:
Can someone install this in the store with a non genuine copy of win 10? or only legit win 10 can download it and play?


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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2016 21:35    Post subject:
hellishere wrote:
Can someone install this in the store with a non genuine copy of win 10? or only legit win 10 can download it and play?

Huh? It doesn't work like this. Install it just fine.
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2016 22:26    Post subject:
booh, it's not detecting my logitech gamepad Sad


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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2016 22:27    Post subject:
dethy wrote:
booh, it's not detecting my logitech gamepad Sad


Have you got it switched to xinput mode? Failing that, if it's a dinput-only device, then you'll need something like x360ce Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th May 2016 16:51    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
dethy wrote:
booh, it's not detecting my logitech gamepad Sad


Have you got it switched to xinput mode? Failing that, if it's a dinput-only device, then you'll need something like x360ce Smile



Well, that gamepad is like 20 years old, finally got a xbone gamepad and it works perfectly. Munch better than my ancient logitech rumblepad Razz


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PostPosted: Sat, 7th May 2016 18:04    Post subject:
Actually.. kind of liking it. The trigger vibration on the xbone controller is pretty sweet.

Looks good, runs well, feels good. Of course far from the most realistic simulation.

If only it had all the maps, cars, livery editor/online database and online multiplayer - I'd be hooked.

btw. is it my 4gb vram oder my 8gb system memory that prevent me from selecting ultra ? or both ?
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th May 2016 20:44    Post subject:
Games nawt bad. Don't mind shelling a few bucks to get more tracks in the future Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 9th May 2016 10:17    Post subject:
Looks so fucking good. Where's Horizon 3, come on Microsoft.
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PostPosted: Sun, 15th May 2016 18:46    Post subject:
So finally tried this. Wow, the handling is so terrible... It looks fine and runs fine, but damn, so bad.
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