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| Swinefur wrote: | | Ever tried DXM(Dextrometaorphan), Syco? |
If not, this could be a good alternative but DXM is not a spycadelic .
Even if i personaly hallucinated and reached the 3rd plateau with it .
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Swinefur
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 17:02 Post subject: |
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| Starforcefan wrote: |
Again , if you read trip report of salvia , most ppl will tell you they dint feel anything .
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like these people?
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Salvia_divinorum.shtml
| Starforcefan wrote: |
i never saw/heard such trip . Its like they did 1 liter of lsd . |
yeah salvinorin A is the most potent natural psychedelic
this has nothing to do that they are heroin addicts
salvinorin uses one receptor (kappa) that opioids use too,
so what, even thc/cannabis uses a receptor (µ) that most opioids use
| Swinefur wrote: | I got offered it on a party, but I denied it.
Want to know if I should accept it next time.  |
dont want to be a party pooper, but please take a low dose of dxm (~50mg) first
so you can see if you are allergic to that stuff, it could have bad consequences if you are and take a full dose...
and dxm was the crappiest high i've ever had, the trip felt so cold/robotic and bodyload was unbearable (for me) :/
if you like dissociatives try ketamin, much better than dxm, imo.
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Swinefur
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 17:09 Post subject: |
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| tjuma wrote: | | Starforcefan wrote: |
Again , if you read trip report of salvia , most ppl will tell you they dint feel anything .
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like these people?
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Salvia_divinorum.shtml
| Starforcefan wrote: |
i never saw/heard such trip . Its like they did 1 liter of lsd . |
yeah salvinorin A is the most potent natural psychedelic
this has nothing to do that they are heroin addicts
salvinorin uses one receptor (kappa) that opioids use too,
so what, even thc/cannabis uses a receptor (µ) that most opioids use |
hey , i readed forum for years and each day some ppl came and said they where hight with 2mg of 2C-I . What i mean by this is a lot of ppl exagerate .
These reports are there for years , i think you should understand my point .
(ppl who dont fell anything wont report on erowid most of the time)
And these report are mix up with a lot of heroin user
"I'm a 45 y.o. who's had much experience with most drugs, etc. I was a poly drug abuser as an 18-20 y.o. & went through a 4 month drug rehab in 1977"
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=16715
there is no wonder why this drug is legal in the usa , its because of what i said .
The most potent spycadelic is legal and free to buy in the USA? this is plain BULLSHIT .
I tell you , you need to be a heroin user to fell salvia .
The US-GOV know this . Ill find what i said from a book or a website .
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 17:21 Post subject: |
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tjuma , when i was 15 , my friends of mine gave a rolled cigaret of tabac to a newbie and tell him it was pot . The guy said he was very stoned after this fake .
This is a well knonw effect , i dont remeber the name . A lot of ppl get hight or lost their mind just by thinking about it . elelo effect or something like that . its well known .
Sometimes , i must admit i act like a 3years old kid to say they are a buch or retarded wasp whore . I must remove my words . They are propably just exited newbie who get the ELOELO or something effect .
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kosmiq
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 17:22 Post subject: |
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You guys are always talking about drugs in one way or another. If the thread is not about you get into it somehow anyway (mostly like this: Syco comes there and says something like "I am so stoned"  ).
Yes I drink, and sometimes I drink alot. But I still think that alcohol is "better" than using heroin or anything like that. Its not like I am going to die if I drink till I get drunk a couple of times a month. Nor I am going to turn into an addict.
Also maybe there is a reason to why alcohol is legal while most drugs are not here in sweden... But as you all know but now I am only a negative bastard here to complain about this and that (mostly Syco for some reason I have yet to figure out). 
Behold his GLORY! Bow for the technical master!
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 17:28 Post subject: |
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Swinefur
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 18:03 Post subject: |
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You guys are probaly right because i cant find anything about what i said . I was maybe too high when i hallucitnated this when i was a drugs some years ago .
The thing i cant understand is why a drug that many say has strong as LSD in report still legal everywhere .
I remember well , salvia had no effect on me . ON ME .
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 18:08 Post subject: |
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| Starforcefan wrote: | tjuma , when i was 15 , my friends of mine gave a rolled cigaret of tabac to a newbie and tell him it was pot . The guy said he was very stoned after this fake .
This is a well knonw effect , i dont remeber the name . A lot of ppl get hight or lost their mind just by thinking about it . elelo effect or something like that . its well known .
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well you get a bit dizzy the first time smoking or if you quit for a long time and then smoke again so offcourse the kid thinks hes high but how can he know what its really like if he doesnt even know the taste of tobacco. its partially imagined but also partially a tobacco high
the salvia and herion connection is bullshit
| kosmiq wrote: | | Yes I drink, and sometimes I drink alot. But I still think that alcohol is "better" than using heroin or anything like that. |
you cant compare heroin (opiats) to other drugs. opiats are physically addictive so after taking a while your body needs it to produce essential stuff.
you always see these people on the news and everywhere who are addicts but with drugs like coke and speed and e and acid the people that get really addicted are always the ones who have problems in their lives and use it to escape these problems, like real drunks.
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pancake
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 18:45 Post subject: |
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| Starforcefan wrote: | You guys are probaly right because i cant find anything about what i said . I was maybe too high when i hallucitnated this when i was a drugs some years ago .
The thing i cant understand is why a drug that many say has strong as LSD in report still legal everywhere .
I remember well , salvia had no effect on me . ON ME . |
had no effect on me or the other 5 people i took it with, i know lots of other people who were at my school and tried it and said the exact same thing. the u.k hates you having drugs of any kind and last i checked salvia is legal and has been for a hell of a long time, this country would of banned it without a doubt if it was that psychedelic, weed isnt that bad and yet its still banned here even though it can have medicinle purpouses, and would cause a hell of a lot less trouble in the towns on a friday/saturday night if everyone was stoned and not drunk.
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 19:22 Post subject: |
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OMG
That thread is fucked up...
I`d say try it - mix it with some weed and smoke it in a bong;
but don`t await something special. My personal experience is, that its a very mild psycadelic drug, nothing special.
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Dec 2005 22:51 Post subject: |
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| Lutzifer wrote: | there is a dutch website where you can even order it from, cant remember the website adress at teh moment but i ll google a bit. They have a user-forum for drug-talk and experience-reports there
edit: cant find the one i have bookmarked at home, but found this one: www.highstreet.nl |
Did you mean http://www.azarius.nl ?
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ToCS
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 04:39 Post subject: |
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@feyendoord4ever, i wouldnt get the 5x, that did nothing for me. after that me and my friend moved up to 20x, took 2 tries for it to finally work (first out of bong, second out of a regular pipe)
we got ours off superpiece.com i think, great prices.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 04:50 Post subject: |
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| Swinefur wrote: | | Ever tried DXM(Dextrometaorphan), Syco? |
I dunno...is it....oh shit, whats that shit called...Dextrol (medicinal name) or something like that? a wicked pain killer that has morphine in it right?
As for the heroin before using salvia...thats complete bullshit. Im not on the horse, neither are my friends, and we got fucked, really fucked.
And to the guy who said take some E and lay in your bed.... What kinda shit E you gettin? Even if its pure MDMA (which is what is the best) you still cant sit in one spot for more than 2 minutes without grinding your teeth, figeting etc |
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