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ah cmon! I already had plans where to invade tonight, and suddenly got booty called 
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Jun 2016 10:09 Post subject: |
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somehow, it's not the same 
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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HubU
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bronson
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Jun 2016 13:02 Post subject: |
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Played for a few hours and didn't like it. It felt incomplete and the ai is a mess. I'll let it rest on the shelf for awhile until at least a few patches down the line. Anyways back to xcom 2 I guess.
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HubU
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Jun 2016 14:04 Post subject: |
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Well, as Douglas McArthur said, I'm not 'down to clown' with this one.
"Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." ~Berthold Auerbach
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Jun 2016 14:17 Post subject: |
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Really thought I posted this morning... must have been too sleepy and forgot to press 'post reply' 
Anywho: I was disappointed. A.I. is quite crap.The fronts were messy up to a point I was wondering if it was the CODEX release. Never seen it behave so erratic on the live streams.
My game was rather fucked up, Japan went all nuts in 1936. It declared war on: China, Russia, USA, Britain (along with its list if allies) in just a few weeks time. I played Fascist South Africa and had joined the axis... only to find myself in 1938 being rear ended by the USMC and Bolshevists from the North. Apparently mother Russia had conquered half of Africa in that time. 
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mtj
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Jun 2016 14:25 Post subject: |
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HubU
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Jun 2016 15:30 Post subject: c |
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I don't know, it all feels pretty well to me. No bugs, no obviously missing features, fair performance. AI appears to be a lot better than the one in Stellaris. At least battlewise, the rest is fairly scripted anyway. Yeah, It's still Clausewitz, which is a shame. HoI3 was first one on it, and they're still using it. Not even 64bit and multicore support. I'd really like to know their plans on replacing it.
I like that minor countries get pretty sweat focus tree that allows you to change government fairly quickly, and have extra research spots in it to help you keep up with the bigger ones. But then they get get blank sprites for tanks and planes. I don't mind getting generic names for them, but come on, just give them some sprites for me to look at in menus.
Tutorial is still shit if you ask me. Words on top of words, with direct handling on what to do, and nothing else. Most of it is even poorly explained, they just point you to wiki and that's it. I know a bit of the game, and it still made me quit the game. They should start with a small country and teach the basics there, not with Italy that has units all over the map. I always learned their games by playing smaller nations. You have few units, don't care if you're wiped out early on, and can see exactly what each thing does. If they throw you into Italy, and just teach you the basics, you are immediately lost.
Too early to say how it fares in the long run though.
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briangw
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Jun 2016 17:08 Post subject: Re: c |
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| fawe4 wrote: |
Tutorial is still shit if you ask me. Words on top of words, with direct handling on what to do, and nothing else. Most of it is even poorly explained, they just point you to wiki and that's it. I know a bit of the game, and it still made me quit the game. They should start with a small country and teach the basics there, not with Italy that has units all over the map. I always learned their games by playing smaller nations. You have few units, don't care if you're wiped out early on, and can see exactly what each thing does. If they throw you into Italy, and just teach you the basics, you are immediately lost.
Too early to say how it fares in the long run though. |
I agree with the shitty tutorial comment. I was the one who asked on an early AMA chat re: how easy it was to learn this game compared to the previous ones when they replied that it is A LOT more approachable but I am still lost. They don't really explain shit with the Italy tutorial. I figured out on my own how to trade for goods to get my production line for the supplies/gear/plan/ship but waiting on Civ factories to finish and just increasing time wondering what to do next.
I've got a friend who has played CK2 and EU4 who jumped in on this so he's picking this up faster and hope to do some coop next week so he can explain more of this.
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zmed
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Jun 2016 21:26 Post subject: |
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Well, i wonder how i would fare with one of the smaller countries, like Hungary, former Yugoslavia, Romania, Bulgaria and so on. Most people love the starting power. Me i prefer the underdogs.
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Jun 2016 21:26 Post subject: |
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WHY THE FUCK can't I put a frontline along several countries?
I want to assign 1 line for the whole Eastern theater?!
and how the fuck do I remove an already placed frontline, without removing all others?!
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Jun 2016 21:38 Post subject: |
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Even though I have quite a few hours logged in CKII and EUIV, I feel kinda lost in this one. Played the tutorial scenario and watched the official videos on youtube. Can anyone recommend some good Let's play videos or the likes suited to a beginner?
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Jun 2016 21:42 Post subject: |
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| blackdochia wrote: | | Well, i wonder how i would fare with one of the smaller countries, like Hungary, former Yugoslavia, Romania, Bulgaria and so on. Most people love the starting power. Me i prefer the underdogs. |
You can do fine, I played Romania several times now, I find it boring and rather hard to play democracy but if you go fascist early you can invade bulgaria easy, go for the militarism focus in the fascist tree and you will have 1mil+ manpower so you'll be able to deal with most nations, you still face issues with research so you should try and get the extra research focus as soon as possible as well. If you manage to annex both bulgaria and hungary fast you should be in a pretty solid place. The biggest threat is Russia honestly, they always ask for territory and declare war on you around 39-40 and they usually do so when you're fighting another war so its hard to manage.
Most recent attempt I actually joined the allies as fascist Legionare Romania  , it was going pretty good fighting on 2 fronts against the German Reich and Czechoslovakia but not long in that war Russia who I was spamming improve relations on all game decided they want Bessarabia like always and I kinda started getting rolled by them since 80% of my forces were on the opposite side of my country
Actually thinking of going for communism since that might make me buddies with the soviets and that way I might be fine, can't remember if the communism tree has a similar thing to militarism, and if they don't then that makes it hard for a small country.
| StrEagle wrote: | WHY THE FUCK can't I put a frontline along several countries?
I want to assign 1 line for the whole Eastern theater?!
and how the fuck do I remove an already placed frontline, without removing all others?! |
You can remove individual frontlines with remove order.
Also I'm pretty sure the reason you need to set individual frontlines is because if you have 1 army form a frontline on 3 countries for example and you set a plan of attack on one of them your whole army will go in to attack that country when you activate the plan, leaving you with no defense on 2 fronts. Honestly its not that much of a hassle, you don't need massive frontlines anyway unless you're at war, an army with a few divisions will more then suffice, and its not like there's much micro management outside of that in the game.
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Jun 2016 21:56 Post subject: |
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| StrEagle wrote: | WHY THE FUCK can't I put a frontline along several countries?
I want to assign 1 line for the whole Eastern theater?!
and how the fuck do I remove an already placed frontline, without removing all others?! |
THIS! How much it annoyed me. So I ended up with having 3 frontlines (all to the north) in the same theater and the AI says: that is a no no and starts acting retarded.
In the ideal scenarios it works... but once you have multiple bordering countries in one direction it just unravels into something broken that needs way too much setting up/fiddling to get it to work so you end up doing it the old way anyway.
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Jun 2016 22:15 Post subject: |
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Is it possible to play czechoslovakia and survive/expand during the world war? Or for instance the netherlands/belgium?
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zmed
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Jun 2016 22:16 Post subject: |
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| blackdochia wrote: | | Well, i wonder how i would fare with one of the smaller countries, like Hungary, former Yugoslavia, Romania, Bulgaria and so on. Most people love the starting power. Me i prefer the underdogs. |
I play as Hungary right now, and conquered Austria and Yugoslavia all by myself (joined the Axis, but I didn't call them in), giving me a healthy landmass to build on. The Allies didn't end up guaranteeing Poland so there is no western front, and right now the entire alliance is bullying the Commies in the east. I don't expect too much land from it, but it's great XP for my troops. 
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zmed
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Jun 2016 22:22 Post subject: |
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| Prandur wrote: | | Is it possible to play czechoslovakia and survive/expand during the world war? Or for instance the netherlands/belgium? |
Not sure about Czechoslovakia, but for the Benelux states there are national focuses that should align you towards the Axis (as well as one of the gov. advisors should be for extra fascist popularity, in case the focus requires a fascist government). Might be able to join Germany before they decide to just steamroll you towards France. From there you can spread out with a relatively heavy-hitter ally behind you.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jun 2016 10:29 Post subject: |
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Played as Japan, spent until 1940 making them democratic hiring the appropriate advisers, then joined the Allies and built Super Yamato-class battleships and helped rule the waters with a big fleet.
I tried using the 'support party' ability on Russia to make them democratic but the process was terribly slow; also I noticed China tried to make Russia stay communist so the democratic party stayed at around 20% even when I wanted to convert them. Russia fought alongside the Allied forces against Germany and its allies without joining the Allied faction.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jun 2016 21:31 Post subject: |
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Guys help! Game is not staring at all, no error, nothing just small taskbar game icon for few seconds and its gone soon after. Any solutions? Running on W10
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2016 06:16 Post subject: |
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| Lithy wrote: | | Guys help! Game is not staring at all, no error, nothing just small taskbar game icon for few seconds and its gone soon after. Any solutions? Running on W10 |
Run as admin? |
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2016 07:17 Post subject: |
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| Lordas wrote: | | Lithy wrote: | | Guys help! Game is not staring at all, no error, nothing just small taskbar game icon for few seconds and its gone soon after. Any solutions? Running on W10 |
Run as admin? |
Yes I did. May it be ESET Smart security suite? On another hand I temporary pausing protection but having the same results.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2016 07:28 Post subject: |
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And same thing is happening as before: 38/39 the big one breaks out and it just cripples my system to a halt. Nothing I do will change it, not that I expected graphics options to help in this case.
Shitty engine was a problem in HoI 3 and yep it still is.
Was thinking on checking it out on my girl's PC with a newer CPU arch. Not that I'm thinking you could save that kind of performance with it though. Also... read up and it seems there are quite a few people having Perf. problems. Even the people on newer and more powerful PC's
Edit:
Sorry Lithy, no clue. Running it on 10 without problems on starting it up (ISO demo though). Must be some software blocking it.
I saw something about MSI gaming app being a problem, so if you have that one: close it and you'll be able to run it.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2016 11:08 Post subject: |
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Yeah, while for me it happens later, around 42-43, performance has gone to shit, its really awful.
Other issues I have, in my latest playthrough, having joined the axis it seems that after we've conquered pretty much all of Europe/Asia/Africa the germans don't seem to be doing much and neither are the americans so its just a never ending war really. Hell, even the United Kingdom I had to just go take myself cause germany is just sitting on its ass with garrisons all over.
Also Nukes are kind of underwhelming, not in terms of destruction, I get that they didn't do all that much, but after having complete areal superiority over the United Kingdom, bombing all their shit and nuking them over 20 times in around 2 years, you'd think they'd capitulate before my actual land invasion, especially with me having conviced half of it to become fascist and join the axis previous to that...
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