Ultra Wide gaming monitors.
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xDBS




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2016 06:34    Post subject: Ultra Wide gaming monitors.
With the 1080 GTX here, i've been really wanting to upgrade my 970 and my 1080p monitor. I have been doing a lot of research and read what reviews I could find, but does anyone here have one of the gaming Ultra Wide monitors? 3440x1440 preferably and can give me their experience using one?

http://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/predator-x34-series

https://www.asus.com/us/Monitors/ROG-SWIFT-PG348Q/

I've read the reviews yes, but I trust most humpers opinions over some youtube review guy
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2016 08:47    Post subject: ....
So you will be joining the 4k 30fps with a 1070 ? Troll Face


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xDBS




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2016 08:48    Post subject: Re: ....
ragnarus wrote:
So you will be joining the 4k 30fps with a 1070 ? Troll Face


3440x1440 isn't 4k.
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2016 09:06    Post subject:
3440x1440 is not really an problem for 1070/980Ti level card, everything runs 60fps if you dont use overkill AA or some nvidia derpworks effects.

What goes for UW monitors, once you try one out, there is no turning back Very Happy... Its so immersive when game uses the aspect ratio properly (modern games starts to support it nicely), movies also looks very nice, since they use same aspect ratio (TV shows not tho). One thing is also impressive on these 3440x1440 monitors, the amount of screen estate in Editing programs etc, so nice!.
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Xenthalon




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2016 10:08    Post subject:
Once my 1070 arrives I am going for the Dell U3415W. Have been very happy the last 5 years with my Dell IPS 1080p screen, and this one is IPS as well, and Dell quality should be worth the extra price.

I have thought long and hard about FreeSync/GSync monitors, but ultimately the ultrawide at 60Hz should be enough.
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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2016 11:25    Post subject:
I would not get anything without adaptive sync nowadays, even with Nvidia card, sooner rather than later most monitors have it so NV will be forced to support FreeSync if they don't want to lose market share.
The new 2016 LG ultrawides have freesync and slightly improved black uniformity this year.
Upcoming Samsungs as well. Or you get one of the absolutely overpriced G-sync models. (but they dont even have ULMB)
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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2016 18:29    Post subject:
Still waiting on that C34F791WD Sad

AOC is supposed to have 1440p 144Hz VA ultrawides later in the year as well. Both "FreeSync" and G-Sync models.
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russ80




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2016 21:13    Post subject:
There's no other option other than the gaming Acer predator x34 was it? 3440x1440 100hz gsync. That's gonna be my next upgrade at least... whenever the miracle happens.


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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2016 00:17    Post subject:
So pretty much everyone likes them just not many people have em just yet.


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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2016 04:30    Post subject:
Xenthalon wrote:
Once my 1070 arrives I am going for the Dell U3415W. Have been very happy the last 5 years with my Dell IPS 1080p screen, and this one is IPS as well, and Dell quality should be worth the extra price.

I have thought long and hard about FreeSync/GSync monitors, but ultimately the ultrawide at 60Hz should be enough.

I bought this dell earlier this year. I'm very happy with it. Make sure you also strengthen your neck muscles. If you have a window open on the left side and want to check the time in the lower right you may have to physically turn your head more than you are used to. Wink
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miragui




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2016 07:14    Post subject:
FDM80 wrote:
Xenthalon wrote:
Once my 1070 arrives I am going for the Dell U3415W. Have been very happy the last 5 years with my Dell IPS 1080p screen, and this one is IPS as well, and Dell quality should be worth the extra price.

I have thought long and hard about FreeSync/GSync monitors, but ultimately the ultrawide at 60Hz should be enough.

I bought this dell earlier this year. I'm very happy with it. Make sure you also strengthen your neck muscles. If you have a window open on the left side and want to check the time in the lower right you may have to physically turn your head more than you are used to. Wink


I bought a Dell U3415W last year. It's very good and I like the Dell pixel perfect warranty. There are many horror stories from other vendors with stuck or dead pixels. I like my 4,953,600 working pixels Very Happy


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Xenthalon




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2016 15:29    Post subject:
Neat, thanks for your feedback guys, I'll definately buy it now Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2016 15:59    Post subject:
I'm using Dell U3415W since it was available in Europe. My sample was shipped straight from the factory with 5 years of onsite warranty. If I'm not wrong you cannot buy it with this warranty unless you work for Dell (or someone buys it for you). Smile


I wrote a review about Asus PG348Q and it was good but definitely not worth the price difference. I've used Asus for 2 weeks. Factory color settings were horrible and you can read (with the help of google translate) about it here: http://muropaketti.com/artikkelit/testissa-asuksen-rog-swift-pelinaytot-pg27aq-pg348q/4/


ps. To you all who are into Ultrawide gaming remember to join this curator: http://store.steampowered.com/curator/9685213-r-ultrawidemasterrace-Group/ Wink


pss. I can share some calibrated settings about my U3415W as soon as I get my new GPU. Intel's HD 4600 is showing the colors differently so I wouldn't share these ones with you.

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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2016 16:12    Post subject:
End of 2016- first half of 2017 will see the release of 144hz 3440x1440 IPS and 200hz 3440x1440p VA panels
Also a 37.5'' 3840x1600 IPS soon

https://hardforum.com/threads/interesting-new-panels-coming-this-year-tftcentral-news.1888827/

Ultrawide is definitely getting a boost now. But I doubt even an upcoming 1080Ti is going to be able to pull these framerates in most new games.
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xDBS




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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Jun 2016 17:21    Post subject:
Shocktrooper wrote:
End of 2016- first half of 2017 will see the release of 144hz 3440x1440 IPS and 200hz 3440x1440p VA panels
Also a 37.5'' 3840x1600 IPS soon

https://hardforum.com/threads/interesting-new-panels-coming-this-year-tftcentral-news.1888827/

Ultrawide is definitely getting a boost now. But I doubt even an upcoming 1080Ti is going to be able to pull these framerates in most new games.


No probably not, thinking about picking up the Asus 100hz, and keeping my 1080p monitor for online FPS.
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Jun 2016 20:49    Post subject:
http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-34UC98-W-ultrawide-monitor

Oh yeah I love this one Cool well would love to have it, although the Asus one above is proly better for me, this one has FreeSync and I have nvidia.
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miragui




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Jun 2016 03:56    Post subject:
Shocktrooper wrote:
End of 2016- first half of 2017 will see the release of 144hz 3440x1440 IPS and 200hz 3440x1440p VA panels
Also a 37.5'' 3840x1600 IPS soon

https://hardforum.com/threads/interesting-new-panels-coming-this-year-tftcentral-news.1888827/

Ultrawide is definitely getting a boost now. But I doubt even an upcoming 1080Ti is going to be able to pull these framerates in most new games.


That's why I'm sticking with my 60Hz Dell it just looks gorgeous. And no framerate troubles.


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xDBS




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Nov 2017 17:01    Post subject:
Time to bump. So it's about time I plan my upgrade. Still running a 2700k 8gb and 970gtx.

Ultrawide monitors are now getting much better for gaming and there are three out that I'm looking at getting next year when the next nvidia Ti drops. Has anyone gotten an Ultrawide yet? And also whats someones personal expeirnece with IPS gaming panels? My gaming monitor is VA and I've herd mixed things about IPS gaming panels. 120HZ is plenty for me, this is why I'm asking about IPS panels in general.. 200hz seems a bit excessive... but i get it super smooth but I doubt i'll ever hit 200FPS in any of the games I play in ultrawide anyways.

34" Dell AW3418DW IPS 120HZ
35" Acer Predator X35 VA 200HZ
35" ASUS ROG Swift Curve PG35VQ VA 200hz

Edit: I guess the dell is not HDR. So that makes my choice much easier now I'm thinking.


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Nov 2017 18:09    Post subject:
IPS panels are generally more responsive than VA, so as far gaming is concerned, they are better. Their main drawback is the crappy contrast ratio compared to VA, so as far as I am concerned, they are worse Very Happy

The last 2 monitors you listed are using the same panel, so it will come down to what it will look like come launch day. And on that subject, last time I heard, the production for the panels on those monitors has been delayed until Q2 2018, putting the release date to some time late 2018. Other than that, it looks great on paper... curious about that one myself.

UW in general is great. Really no reason not to get one, if you have the space and budget for it. Support in games is pretty widespread by now and if the worst comes to worst, you will just have a 27" 16:9 1440p display.

I have a 1440p 100hz ultrawide myself. With a 1080ti, most demanding games are at 75-100 FPS, so just a bit short of the performance target. The next Ti will probably be more of a solid 100 FPS experience, and definitely nowhere near 200. The advantage of G-Sync, however, (if you go Nvidia) is that you won't need to go that high. A jump from 60 to 100 is pretty obvious already.
I'd say past 120/144 Hz you are getting diminishing returns, but with 200 as the top end, you will have plenty of range. Question is, will those panels actually be responsive enough for that. In terms of pixel response, they are barely capable of 100Hz at the moment.
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Nov 2017 18:49    Post subject:
keep in mind, those new HDR ultrawides are going to be fucking expensive, 2000 eur territory (atleast if the rumors are correct, huge topic in overclock.net)...
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xDBS




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Nov 2017 20:22    Post subject:
Yeah, I figured they were the same panels. The 144hz for me would be for some of the online games I play now, but I believe the next generation nVIDIA can power these older games to produce the performance im looking for. I just don't think I could go back to desktop use at 100hz either, 120 would be fine, 144 would be better. I hope the next TI card is very powerful and trys to take on 4K, which would leave the 3440x1440 gamers in a positive position.

The price is a concern yes, but it would be better then upgrading to two 2k or 4k monitors because my monitors need an upgrade as well. And would be nice to save the desk space, and to combine the work area into one fluid screen instead of having two just seem so much more pleasing to me.

In the end, who knows what I'll do. Get it on credit, or pay for it out right but I am leaning towards this direction. I just do not hope its not 2000$. I'm hoping they drop prices on current models and these will idle around 1300$.


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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Feb 2018 00:26    Post subject:
Hi guys, I was so set on getting a 4k screen this past week. I even had the philips 43" 4K on order, TWICE these past couple of days. Whether it was the stars aligning and conspiring to prevent me making rash decisions. I had one order not go through because of a billing problem and then I actually cancelled the proceeding order when I read about severe ghosting and image burn in on the philips screen. Thank god I didn't buy it in the end as it would have been a rash choice based on pretty much zero research and had I the philips monitor staring in front of me I would be kicking myself right about now.
Then I noticed ultra wide screens which I hadn't really considered before and just a few minutes ago I was so close to buying the ACER predator 34" screen with the 100mhz and G-Sync. Hovering over the purchase button and I suddenly thought o visit the hump. I'm so glad I did now as within the first minute or so I find out there's this model and that model which are even better that I didn't even know existed up till now. Well done humpers.Very Happy

Anyway so it brings me to this fellas. I've just seen this screen, its another ACER and its slightly larger at 35" and there's a 200mhz g-sync too. Also for some bizarre reason its also about a £100 or so cheaper too!.

So, is this the best screen to get at the moment guys, is it pretty much a revision and upgrade to the Acer X34A Predator Curved 34" G-Sync IPS Quad HD Gaming Monitor I was looking at?, or perhaps there is something else I could be looking at too?.

Anyway I'm excited today as I got all these through the post, although I still have to wait till Tuesday to receive the chassis (Thermal take core x9 and a Noctua NH-D15 Dual cooler. I didn't even realize that the 8700k doesn't even come with a heat sink or fan cooler Sad )



oh no forget that 35" beast, it's not even out yet... they one I saw on the net was misleading. Was in the section with all the other widescreens, but it was actually the old ACER 2k monitor.. looks like 34" it is then but there are a couple of other options and they are also about £300 cheaper too.

ASUS MX34VQ 34" Designo Curved Ultra Wide 100Hz Quad HD Monitor
LG 34UM88 Ultrawide 34" WQHD IPS Monitor
AOC 35" AG352UCG Agon UltraWide QHD 3440x1440 MVA LED Curved Gaming Monitor

Anyone happen to know how these compare to the acer?
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xyzg




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Feb 2018 01:40    Post subject:
fuck it, after going around in circles checking and comparing one monitor after another's refresh rates, g-sync or freewhatever, 34" or 35" but Va and no IPS etc etc etc... I simply got fed up and thought t0 hell with nivida gsync and 200mhz, ghosting, blurring images blah blah and I opted for the simple choice. The biggest ultra wide screen I could get my hands on Very Happy

So it's the Dell UltraSharp U3818DW - 38" Curved IPS LED. 338" friggin inches on a curve screen. This has got to be the closest thing to immersion without going VR hasn't it???!.
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Feb 2018 07:46    Post subject:
It'll give that 1080 a run for its money Wink 3440x1440 does with mine Smile
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xyzg




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Feb 2018 22:54    Post subject:
scaramonga wrote:
It'll give that 1080 a run for its money Wink 3440x1440 does with mine Smile


How is the screen scaramonga?. I mean, no regrets you went for for ultrawide instead of a 4k screen?. I've never used either before, and my current screen is a Hazro 30" 1440p display, which to be perfectly honest i've been perfectly happy with, but since having the option to upgrade I figured why not.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Feb 2018 04:37    Post subject:
xyzg wrote:


How is the screen scaramonga?. I mean, no regrets you went for for ultrawide instead of a 4k screen?. I've never used either before, and my current screen is a Hazro 30" 1440p display, which to be perfectly honest i've been perfectly happy with, but since having the option to upgrade I figured why not.


Been great m8 Smile Has it's problems, but what screen doesn't? 21:9 was a problem when I first got it for games, but most support it now, and if not, there are easy hex hacks to make them do so (this war of mine) being one, which I adore Smile

I'll never go back! Civ 5/6 in this res are just brilliant, as is Airport CEO and SimAirport, which are my 'go to' games ATM. Great 'strategy' gaming monitor I guess, lol?, and I still delve a little into the FPS side with Deus Ex etc, which is so immersive, but my reflexes and eyes do not handle so well now Wink

Yeah, no regrets buddy
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Feb 2018 20:35    Post subject:
scaramonga wrote:
xyzg wrote:


How is the screen scaramonga?. I mean, no regrets you went for for ultrawide instead of a 4k screen?. I've never used either before, and my current screen is a Hazro 30" 1440p display, which to be perfectly honest i've been perfectly happy with, but since having the option to upgrade I figured why not.


Been great m8 Smile Has it's problems, but what screen doesn't? 21:9 was a problem when I first got it for games, but most support it now, and if not, there are easy hex hacks to make them do so (this war of mine) being one, which I adore Smile

I'll never go back! Civ 5/6 in this res are just brilliant, as is Airport CEO and SimAirport, which are my 'go to' games ATM. Great 'strategy' gaming monitor I guess, lol?, and I still delve a little into the FPS side with Deus Ex etc, which is so immersive, but my reflexes and eyes do not handle so well now Wink

Yeah, no regrets buddy


wicked Scaramonga, you know I hadn't even thought about RTS and strategy games, and it's also one of my favourite genres too. My mind had been buzzing around space sims and fps type games and how they would look.
Yeah I bet strategy games look fantastic on a landscape res. You know, I've heard that comment a few times before about ultra wide, that peeps wouldn't go back to a normal screen after they've been gaming like this Surprised it's got me more eager to play on these screens then 4k has now, I guess ultra wide has got some wow factor to them as they are quite different to 4k which is just a normal monitor with higher pixel density I suppose.

It's good to hear about the compatibility too, I had taken it for granted that games would just run without any problem but it's good to know that it's more supported nowadays. Thanks for the reply mate, cheers!. Smile
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