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ClaudeFTW
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Location: Bucharest, Romania
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 Posted: Sun, 24th Jul 2016 12:19 Post subject: Build log for new PC! |
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Recently I sold my gaming PC because of a short break between jobs. Long story short, left the old place because fuck, I couldn't even get a proper vacation since my personal phone was ringing like crazy when my work one was shut down. Anyway, since I never overclocked my 4670k, I decided to go for a somewhat budget build for my next PC as some of my parts in my last one had no place being there due to my usage habbit. Some stuff will be added in the following weeks/months. Anyway, here's the gist of it.
Mobo: ASRock H170 Pro4
CPU: Intel Core i5 6500
RAM: (for now) 8Gb of HyperX Fury DDR4 memory @ 2133MHz
Storage: 1TB Western Digital Blue HDD...I had this lying around. + Samsung Evo 850 EVO 120GB SSD. (The SSD and additional RAM will be added shortly)
GPU: Asus GeForce GTX 1060Strix Gaming OC
PSU: SuperFlower Leadex Gold 650W Full Modular PSU. I can't find myself able to add anything other than a SF Leadex or Seasonic Gold PSU in my system. Had too many parts failing due to a shitty PSU and the Leadex Gold was a part of my last system as well.
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400 Gunmetal Grey. The reasoning behind this case was that I absolutely adored the NZXT S340 but it was a bit TOO boxy for my taste while the interior was perfect. It seems the Eclipse P400 is a cheaper alternative to it which pretty much offers the same ergonomics in a nicer looking package...only if it weren't for the holes drilled in the PSU shroud...it would have been perfect.
Cooling: Zalman CNPS11X Performa+ CPU cooler + 3 additional ID Cooling PL-12025-W (white LED case fans).
And that's pretty much it. Sorry if I seem obnoxious when I call this a "budget" gaming PC since it really isn't, however, these parts are what seemed acceptable at the time I placed the order.
Will come back with pictures once the parts are here which should be Monday or Tuesday,
R7 2700x @4GHz / MSI B450 Tomahawk / beQuiet! Dark Rock 4 / 32GB @3000 MHz / MSI RTX 2060 Gaming Z / Samsung 850 EVO 250GB / Western Digital 1TB / Fractal Design Meshify C Dark / SuperFlower Leadex Gold 650W / DELL whatever 27 inch IPS
I usually stream stuff: http://www.twitch.tv/claudeftw
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ragnarus
Posts: 686
Location: Somewhere in Warsaw Pact
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Jul 2016 13:03 Post subject: ... |
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I would buy Palit 1060, seems to have much better cooler and if possible get another 8gb of ram, I did the same and bought one 8gb stick(same hyperx memory) but then I saw tests where a guy compared 8gb single channel to 16gb(2x8gb) and in many games performance in favour of 16gb dual channel was like 10% or more, that test was quite shocking how much dual channel can help in gaming. But anyway nice setup
i5 6600 + Silentiumpc Spartan Pro, Asus H170-plus mobo, HyperX 16 GB DDR4 2133MHz, Asus GTX 970 Strix OC, 1TB Seagate Barracuda, BeQuiet L8 500W, Zalman Z9 case, crap monitor 
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Jul 2016 13:26 Post subject: |
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slow ram, and not enough ram. that's a recipe for an unbalanced rig.
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ragnarus
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Location: Somewhere in Warsaw Pact
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Jul 2016 14:14 Post subject: |
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| Drowning_witch wrote: | | slow ram, and not enough ram. that's a recipe for an unbalanced rig. |
In most games difference between 2133 and 3000mhz ram is barely noticeable, you cant put anything faster than 2133 to H170 anyway, but ram is cheap enough that if I would putting my pc together right now I wouldnt bother with one 8gb stick but go for 2x8gb right from the start.
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ClaudeFTW
Posts: 5074
Location: Bucharest, Romania
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Jul 2016 15:11 Post subject: |
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There is going to be more RAM...just not now. In three weeks' time I'll be able to get more RAM
R7 2700x @4GHz / MSI B450 Tomahawk / beQuiet! Dark Rock 4 / 32GB @3000 MHz / MSI RTX 2060 Gaming Z / Samsung 850 EVO 250GB / Western Digital 1TB / Fractal Design Meshify C Dark / SuperFlower Leadex Gold 650W / DELL whatever 27 inch IPS
I usually stream stuff: http://www.twitch.tv/claudeftw
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tonizito
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Location: Portugal, the shithole of Europe.
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Jul 2016 18:08 Post subject: |
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Ahhhh, so that's where that 1060 talk was coming from. Thought something was off, since you're not a moron and were seemingly swapping a 970 for a 1060  
Get some higher speed RAMz if the price difference is not ridiculous
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ClaudeFTW
Posts: 5074
Location: Bucharest, Romania
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Jul 2016 18:20 Post subject: |
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| tonizito wrote: | Ahhhh, so that's where that 1060 talk was coming from. Thought something was off, since you're not a moron and were seemingly swapping a 970 for a 1060
Get some higher speed RAMz if the price difference is not ridiculous |
Sold it for some income until starting the new job, heh. I'd have swapped the 970 for a 1070, tho 
I am not really familiar with DDR4 yet, do frequencies really matter that much in day to day use and gaming? Or is this something related to Skylake and the way it works with faster RAM? Cause I'll change to a Z chipset immediately since H170 and this specific mobo only support 2133 MHz.
R7 2700x @4GHz / MSI B450 Tomahawk / beQuiet! Dark Rock 4 / 32GB @3000 MHz / MSI RTX 2060 Gaming Z / Samsung 850 EVO 250GB / Western Digital 1TB / Fractal Design Meshify C Dark / SuperFlower Leadex Gold 650W / DELL whatever 27 inch IPS
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Jul 2016 21:36 Post subject: |
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every time you are CPU limited RAM speed and cpu clock speed will decide your framerate.
2133 with DDR 4 latencies is the bottom of low end for DDR 4. if longevity and balance are important when building a new rig, then i'd go with at least 3000mhz RAM.
I plan on doing a test with a larger sample of games soon to see what's the actual extent of RAM speed is on framerate, as it seems the internet is still stuck on "save monies on RAM" mentality.
but in Arma 3, 800mhz ram speed increase will increase framerate equally or more than a 800mhz CPU clock increase. so essentially a CPU oc with slow ram only gets you half the FPS boost compared to a combo of a well OCed cpu and fast ram. and that's on haswell. skylake has an even more efficient IMC.
https://www.reddit.com/r/arma/comments/4qgxll/a_short_cpuram_speed_impact_analysis_in_arma_3/
you can see a guy in my thread above with skylake report a 5 fps increase just going from 3000 to 3200mhz ddr4.
whatever the sweet spot for pricing with ddr4 is, i'd get that. should be easy to spot as at a certain speed the price will just start being way higher compared to the speed increase.
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ClaudeFTW
Posts: 5074
Location: Bucharest, Romania
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jul 2016 04:24 Post subject: |
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No 1060 in stock. ANYWHERE. This is gonna have to wait for a bit, I guess. Damn. Ordered the rest of the parts.
R7 2700x @4GHz / MSI B450 Tomahawk / beQuiet! Dark Rock 4 / 32GB @3000 MHz / MSI RTX 2060 Gaming Z / Samsung 850 EVO 250GB / Western Digital 1TB / Fractal Design Meshify C Dark / SuperFlower Leadex Gold 650W / DELL whatever 27 inch IPS
I usually stream stuff: http://www.twitch.tv/claudeftw
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