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Janz




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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Sep 2016 19:57    Post subject:
console version is multi 16 and pc again only downloads one commentary right? that would explain the size difference.
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IamAWESOME




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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Sep 2016 20:15    Post subject:
Yep. Downloads only the language you select. Smile


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lunkentuss




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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Sep 2016 02:53    Post subject:
Played fifa 17 early access for about 6-7 hours now and playing almost only the journey mode. Is it impossible to reach the starting eleven in the part of the journeymode that is available? Doesnt matter if i score hattrick 2 games in a row im still on the subs. Any hints
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harry_theone




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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Sep 2016 11:23    Post subject:
@lunkentuss This is scripted. I did all Training with A ratings and scored 1-2 goals with at least 1-2 assists and the bar never moved. Should show some kind of "no matter how good you are, you're not ready yet"-moment.
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Janz




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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Sep 2016 11:28    Post subject:
ofc its scripted, wouldnt be realistic if some 17 year old gets transfered to a huge club and instantly will be starting eleven (though ofc its not realistic to store two hattricks in a row as substitute, you should raise the difficult from amateuer to atleast profi Razz)
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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Sep 2016 11:42    Post subject:
I am playing on Professional. And talking about realism in FIFA, like really Laughing
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freiwald




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 04:27    Post subject:
game is shit.

- what is that delay for? make them players slower or whatever but don't put in a delay. every action has a little delay.
- everything is full of cheaters again and the game isn't even out yet.
- players (for example herrmann) get injured every second game. i don't even want to imagine robben, he will be probably injured all the time from the start and you will never be able to play with him. it's ok to get injured and all but not every 2-3 games.
- graphics are shit, a little bit better then the year before, but it's NOT good either. it's still outdated and ugly SHIT.
- they got a new engine, still momentum is there like we are used too. i almost wrecked my xbox pad in the last game.


well thank god for ea access. saved me 40 euros.
now i made some coins in fut (thanks to the boosts) to buy me 2 starter teams. i can build on that on the webapp and make some more coins there until the game is around 20 euros in a half year or so or completely in the vault so i can play it for "free".

first fifa since fifa 11 which will not be bought right from the start.

/edit
just read that disabling vsync will help with the "delay".
i tried to disable vsync (changed lock to 60 fps to unlimited) and enabled adaptive vsync in the nvidia control panel like i used to do it in fifa 15 and 16.
so you wont have any tears/lags and also 60 fps all the time.

when i do this in fifa 17, game will crash with this message after choosing the language:


WHY????
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 05:46    Post subject:
What delay?
Well, haven't faced any cheater in 10 hours. That is strange.
Yeah, FUT injuries seem to be little too much.
Graphics shite? Screens? Tried ReShade?

I have V-Sync turned off as well. It launches fine.


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freiwald




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 05:55    Post subject:
IamAWESOME wrote:
What delay?
Well, haven't faced any cheater in 10 hours. That is strange.
Yeah, FUT injuries seem to be little too much.
Graphics shite? Screens? Tried ReShade?

I have V-Sync turned off as well. It launches fine.


- faced already more then enough cheaters, sadly. reddit also says so so im not alone with this.
only thing they did was to block cheatengine this year. trainers still work like before.
- maybe i was a bit to emotional, maybe "shit" is too much. but still it doesn't look good enough for 2016. no reshade will fix this and other things like the bad animations.
- if you have vsync disabled, then you won't face any delays it seems. try to enable lock to 60 fps and play a match. you will notice the delay.

you probably have a 144hz monitor so you can live just fine with just disabling it, but if i disable the 60 fps lock i will get tearing and also it will not run as smooth as it should.
so in fifa 15 and 16 i enabled adaptive vsync from the nvidia panel, after disabling the 60 fps lock from fifa settings.
like this i had 60 fps in the game and also in the cutscenes (which were 30 fps otherwise) and also good performance and no tearing.
now in fifa 17 i get the error which i posted in my last post. same settings, but it won't start like it should.
can't find anything about the errors codes either or nothing which can help.
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 06:31    Post subject:
Would i get a key instant if purchased from cdkeys ? Is there is a possibility the price would go down in a week?
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IamAWESOME




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 06:39    Post subject:
@freiwald That sucks. Sad Will look for a solution.

@NFOAC Most key sites are EU based, and will be sending keys on 29th (EU launch). A week? No. Maybe during Black Friday - $10 off.


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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 06:46    Post subject:
Thanks it seems i better off wait till 27 to see who is delivering the keys
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JackQ
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 06:53    Post subject:
PES 2017 just got bypassed similar method to Fifa 16... we shall see when official release if similar method will work on Fifa 17 to..


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Janz




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 12:00    Post subject:
@freiwald: it has no delay, its pes where the vsync stuff matters. though its recommended to disable the framelimiter ingame and force vsync via the driver if you need it. only that way you get 60fps everywhere, otherwise cutscenes and menus are 30fps which is awful. but you are partly right, it feels like a small delay, but play around a bit, its not input lag (i.e. when you just run around with a player you wont feel any inputlag), its some kind of "realism" they put into it which makes the game a little bit slower cause in most cases if you pass or shoot the players dont use their weak foot so they have to make a step more, that feels way different than last years. but i somehow like it

wont be much off in the future, maybe 25% off on black friday or christmas sale.

about cheaters, many people report if you alt tab out of the game (or maybe click on your second screen) the game gets aborted and is a loss for you. maybe you did something similar? dunno. reports about cheaters arent thrustworthy atm, though some russian guy is selling a hack (dunno where i read that, most likely reddit). but i havent seen a proof yet


@nfoac: buying directly on some other regions origin store?
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harry_theone




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 12:16    Post subject:
Reports are not trustworthy? I saw quite a lot of reports on reddit so far. Apparently it isn't an issue in FUT Champions, so I hope they are using that in the whole game on release.

@JackQ Demo bypass lol wut This will not work on FIFA 17 because it's file structure was completely changed... Laughing Now go back to your lair.
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Janz




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 12:28    Post subject:
i ment i havent seen any proof that there are cheaters around already, hence not trustworthy. but we will see. somewhere they said the game is now tunneled (dunno if they said its hosted on them) through eas server (thats what they said about fut champ). we will see tomorrow evening, i assume there is a day0 patch and hopefully that gets released when it unlocks in south korea


about the demo bypass, yep harry is right. for pes it wasnt a big problem, still same old shit with some protection that it doesnt load stuff from older pes games. they somehow removed that or used stuff from the final game. wont work on fifa, new engine -> completely new file structure. modders still working on decrypting the game files and nobody found the database till now which is needed
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ivan1real




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 12:40    Post subject:
Cheaters are still here. Draft is filled with them, met some of them in online divisions too.

Of course this is UT only.
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akskiller




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 13:26    Post subject:
Sticking to Xbone mates.
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 13:27    Post subject:
At least FUT champions mode won't be filled with cheaters. Was hoping for Draft cheat-free, since they increased entry fee to 15K coins. Oh, well.

Season - all cheaters will move to division 1 in a week. 2-10 should be fine. Division 1 - probably like last year.


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Janz




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 13:32    Post subject:
tbh i havent encountered any cheaters in season since ~january. always div 1 (except if you count the game fucking you up as cheating Very Happy but thats nothing other players are responsible for)
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 13:33    Post subject:
Draft wasn't increased, always used to be 15k...
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 14:24    Post subject:
harry_theone wrote:
Now go back to your lair.

Let alone it's not your personal forum+it's cracking news focused... Next time,explain in more polite way why you don't think it will work like Janz just did...

Even if something like this is unlikely asking questions is completely legitimate thing... I hope there will be some progress with Modding or CPY will be up for something.


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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 14:50    Post subject:
@harry_theone Was it? My bad then. I thought it was 7500. Sad No draft for me. Maybe just offline draft here and there. Very Happy


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Janz




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 14:55    Post subject:
so anyone here bought it from origin india,singapore or whatever?
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 15:03    Post subject:
JackQ wrote:
harry_theone wrote:
Now go back to your lair.

Let alone it's not your personal forum+it's cracking news focused... Next time,explain in more polite way why you don't think it will work like Janz just did...

Even if something like this is unlikely asking questions is completely legitimate thing... I hope there will be some progress with Modding or CPY will be up for something.


Oh ffs. It's not "cracking news" and about your "personal forum", you have a thread for this stuff, so post it there, not here. I told you why, Janz just repeated the same stuff even shorter than me, "fifa, new engine -> completely new file structure."

What you posted wasn't a question, it was "guessing" and "maybe that works" and the usual crap we have in every game's thread. Therefore, it's spam Laughing Deal with it.
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Janz




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 15:04    Post subject:
to be precise i got a little more into detail Wink but yes i basicly said what you have said before
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 15:06    Post subject:
JackQ wrote:
harry_theone wrote:
Now go back to your lair.

Let alone it's not your personal forum+it's cracking news focused... Next time,explain in more polite way why you don't think it will work like Janz just did...

Even if something like this is unlikely asking questions is completely legitimate thing... I hope there will be some progress with Modding or CPY will be up for something.


You know if you would just contain yourself a little bit we wouldn't have this stuff repeating itself over and over. Just be less eager, especially so when you don't grasp the entire or at least most of the situation.


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JackQ
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 15:14    Post subject:
Morphineus wrote:
JackQ wrote:
harry_theone wrote:
Now go back to your lair.

Let alone it's not your personal forum+it's cracking news focused... Next time,explain in more polite way why you don't think it will work like Janz just did...

Even if something like this is unlikely asking questions is completely legitimate thing... I hope there will be some progress with Modding or CPY will be up for something.


You know if you would just contain yourself a little bit we wouldn't have this stuff repeating itself over and over. Just be less eager, especially so when you don't grasp the entire or at least most of the situation.

My only "sin" is to wrote that PES17 and Fifa 16 were bypassed in similar way and I thought there might be something similar for Fifa 17,I am not against explanations why someone think it's not possible,just against the attitude that it would be a stupid question or a thing to say.

Somehow,you have to "blame" me for starting shitstrom,when all you have to do is say its it's using different engine etc..


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Janz




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 15:17    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
so anyone here bought it from origin india,singapore or whatever?


im asking that till someone answers Razz does it still work with disconnecting the vpn when it wants you to login? since they changed the store there is no "basket" anymore. but i could use vpn for singapore,mx,india to have that currency, click in preorder and then the login window pops up i could disconnect the vpn and login normally and it takes over the foreign currency?
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 15:24    Post subject:
As far as I've read there are people that bought it there lately, not sure how it is now but the suggestions of buying it on Singapore still come up. You could try Vietnam if that works?
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