New car
Page 9 of 18 Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 8, 9, 10 ... 16, 17, 18  Next
difm




Posts: 6618

PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Aug 2016 19:33    Post subject:
Invasor wrote:
I really, really like the design on those vauxhalls/opels, they look upscale and just classy IMO, but I hate the way they feel when driving, it's like a shoebox full of lead Laughing at least the astra I rented in cz and the insignia a friend had. Not sure if it was latest gen or not, and it's personal preference, but I didn't like.


There's only one gen of Insignias, but it had facelift a while ago. New gen should be out in few years.

But I have heard that comment from other sources too so there must be a point in it. Insignia has a bit heavy steering wheel compared to most cars indeed but my Astra's steering wheel handles well. For a 126kW engine with also older automatic transmission it drives rather well (I only have driven that engine Insignia).
Then again, I haven't driven a longer period with higher end cars too.


i5 6600k @ 4.3 GHz | MSI z170 Gaming M7 | 32GB Kingston HyperX Fury | 850 Evo 500GB | EVGA 1070 SC | Seasonic X-660 | CM Storm Stryker
Back to top
paxsali
Banned



Posts: 18352

PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Aug 2016 22:37    Post subject:
⁢⁢


Last edited by paxsali on Thu, 4th Jul 2024 21:25; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
Invasor
Moderator



Posts: 7638
Location: On the road
PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Aug 2016 01:45    Post subject:
difm wrote:
Invasor wrote:
I really, really like the design on those vauxhalls/opels, they look upscale and just classy IMO, but I hate the way they feel when driving, it's like a shoebox full of lead Laughing at least the astra I rented in cz and the insignia a friend had. Not sure if it was latest gen or not, and it's personal preference, but I didn't like.


There's only one gen of Insignias, but it had facelift a while ago. New gen should be out in few years.

But I have heard that comment from other sources too so there must be a point in it. Insignia has a bit heavy steering wheel compared to most cars indeed but my Astra's steering wheel handles well. For a 126kW engine with also older automatic transmission it drives rather well (I only have driven that engine Insignia).
Then again, I haven't driven a longer period with higher end cars too.


To be fair the astra I rented was a (very) humble 1.4 petrol, so it wasn't just the handling that made me feel bad about the car. I hate this european style of (heavy) medium sized cars with tiny naturally aspirated engines. 1.8 is ideal, 1.4 is a city car that gained weight. On a compact such engine can be actually fun, but when you have 1200+kg it just makes me bored Laughing I remember flooring it all the time, only to hear the (rather bad) noise and perceive almost no response... Laughing
Now the astra vxr must be a wild beast Me Gusta
Back to top
difm




Posts: 6618

PostPosted: Wed, 24th Aug 2016 10:53    Post subject:
Well, shrinking engines with turbochargers etc is sadly a thing in the automotive industry. Luckily the hypercar manufacturers still use good old huge pure powermachines Razz


i5 6600k @ 4.3 GHz | MSI z170 Gaming M7 | 32GB Kingston HyperX Fury | 850 Evo 500GB | EVGA 1070 SC | Seasonic X-660 | CM Storm Stryker
Back to top
Danyutz




Posts: 4418
Location: Redplanet
PostPosted: Wed, 24th Aug 2016 10:58    Post subject:
Why is it sadly, when you can get more power from a smaller engine? It's progression.
Back to top
difm




Posts: 6618

PostPosted: Wed, 24th Aug 2016 11:02    Post subject:
Danyutz wrote:
Why is it sadly, when you can get more power from a smaller engine? It's progression.


Yes, but there's no true "VROOOOOOM" anymore (unless you add the sound from speakers) Sad

And I am a bit sceptical about squeezing so much power out of these small blocks (in terms of lifetime).


i5 6600k @ 4.3 GHz | MSI z170 Gaming M7 | 32GB Kingston HyperX Fury | 850 Evo 500GB | EVGA 1070 SC | Seasonic X-660 | CM Storm Stryker
Back to top
Danyutz




Posts: 4418
Location: Redplanet
PostPosted: Wed, 24th Aug 2016 13:19    Post subject:
Lifetime? Who needs lifetime engines anymore, when we live in an era based on consumption.
Back to top
Werelds
Special Little Man



Posts: 15098
Location: 0100111001001100
PostPosted: Wed, 24th Aug 2016 16:26    Post subject:
So it doesn't matter to you that buying a used first generation 1.4 TSI is a bad idea unless you have a crystal-clear maintenance history that shows you when it was fixed, because those engines (as many small turbocharged engines) is unreliable? Wink

It does still matter. And most of these engines are relatively unreliable.

Plus, most have plenty of lag too. My 2.0 FSI is smoother to drive than any of the 3 1.4 TSI's that came after it, even though they have similar BHP at the wheels (mine's 150; the TSI's have 160, 140 and 150 respectively, each with more torque than mine). That's because the power curve just keeps on going up right up to redline almost.
Back to top
Danyutz




Posts: 4418
Location: Redplanet
PostPosted: Wed, 24th Aug 2016 16:46    Post subject:
I would understand your statement, if VW would of dropped the 2.0 in favor of 1.4 or 1.6, but it's not the case, they still sell them exactly for the reason I am saying.

Because customers expect diversity and maybe there's a 40yo lady who drives 99% of time in town, I don't think she'll need the 2.0 or even 1.6, 1.4 is a lot more appropriate to go for. That type of customer will always service the car accordingly and it will still last for 5-6 years, which makes it a great turn-over for a vw dealer. This is from a business side of view, customer has it's advantages as well, lower fuel consumption ( this is relative ), lower CO2, lower taxes and the ultimate advantage, cheaper to buy and maintain.

Each engine has it's own advantage, what I am stating is that we don't have any reason to bash smaller engines.

I just hope I get the era when we will be forced to move to full electric.
Back to top
paxsali
Banned



Posts: 18352

PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2016 18:51    Post subject:
⁢⁢


Last edited by paxsali on Thu, 4th Jul 2024 21:22; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
Janz




Posts: 14000

PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2016 19:16    Post subject:
no golden plate hanging in the middle of the backseats with turkish sweets on it? im disappointed!
Back to top
paxsali
Banned



Posts: 18352

PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2016 19:22    Post subject:
⁢⁢


Last edited by paxsali on Thu, 4th Jul 2024 21:22; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
Janz




Posts: 14000

PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2016 19:27    Post subject:
that car proofs the opposite honey
Back to top
madness




Posts: 13320

PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2016 19:32    Post subject:
Nice parking job there LOL
Back to top
Janz




Posts: 14000

PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2016 19:38    Post subject:
dude its a bmw. the driver is supposed NOT to use turn signals and to park across the lines
Back to top
deelix
PDIP Member



Posts: 32062
Location: Norway
PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2016 19:48    Post subject:
What is that max 190 sticker? Does it have anything to do with insurance and driving on the autobahn?
Back to top
Janz




Posts: 14000

PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2016 19:49    Post subject:
yes its say max 190 with that winter-tires on it, if you crash with more speed the insurance will say haha fuck you
Back to top
paxsali
Banned



Posts: 18352

PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2016 19:53    Post subject:
⁢⁢


Last edited by paxsali on Thu, 4th Jul 2024 21:22; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
VGAdeadcafe




Posts: 22230
Location: ★ ಠ_ಠ ★
PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2016 19:53    Post subject:
If you crash at >190km/h they will say that to your relatives.
Back to top
Janz




Posts: 14000

PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2016 20:03    Post subject:
you can get easily out of a quality car with basicly no scratches if you drift of the road into the sideboards/guard lane (dunno which term is the correct one) with 190km/h. wouldnt recommend a tree though (or doing it all) even a very skilled and experienced driver can have bad luck with instant hailstorm without any prior notice (yes its that time of the year again)
Back to top
Mister_s




Posts: 19863

PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2016 23:38    Post subject:
Lost your job or something? Proper Turks drive Mercedes.
Back to top
PumpAction
[Schmadmin]



Posts: 26759

PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2016 23:46    Post subject:
Young turks drive BE ME VE olum. Old fart turks drive mersedes


=> NFOrce GIF plugin <= - Ryzen 3800X, 16GB DDR4-3200, Sapphire 5700XT Pulse
Back to top
Mister_s




Posts: 19863

PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2016 23:51    Post subject:
I think you mean poor Turks. In Dutchieland, BMW is the pust car among Turks.
Back to top
StrEagle




Posts: 14059
Location: Balkans
PostPosted: Sat, 8th Oct 2016 00:33    Post subject:
why the 190km/h restriction? is it related to the tires?
my winter tires are rated to 210 and my summer tires are rated to 240 Very Happy


Lutzifer wrote:
and yes, mine is only average
Back to top
Invasor
Moderator



Posts: 7638
Location: On the road
PostPosted: Sat, 8th Oct 2016 03:14    Post subject:
¨M Power¨ with auto transmission Reaction
Back to top
VGAdeadcafe




Posts: 22230
Location: ★ ಠ_ಠ ★
PostPosted: Sat, 8th Oct 2016 04:12    Post subject:
Invasor wrote:
¨M Power¨ with auto transmission Reaction

Handy, you can drive with one hand and flip losers in slower cars with the other.
Back to top
PumpAction
[Schmadmin]



Posts: 26759

PostPosted: Sat, 8th Oct 2016 17:59    Post subject:
Invasor wrote:
¨M Power¨ with auto transmission Reaction
I wonder if anyone can shift faster than automatic gearing. And I'd also like to see any modern super car with a manual gearbox Laughing Have fun shifting up every quarter of a second Laughing


=> NFOrce GIF plugin <= - Ryzen 3800X, 16GB DDR4-3200, Sapphire 5700XT Pulse
Back to top
Invasor
Moderator



Posts: 7638
Location: On the road
PostPosted: Sun, 9th Oct 2016 03:00    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
Invasor wrote:
¨M Power¨ with auto transmission Reaction
I wonder if anyone can shift faster than automatic gearing. And I'd also like to see any modern super car with a manual gearbox Laughing Have fun shifting up every quarter of a second Laughing


I'm pretty sure this is not what you have in mind when you think of a fast/modern automatic gearbox Laughing
 Spoiler:
 


Sure, in a new car an auto transmission can be more efficient than the manual (still less fun), but this ain't the case... it's probably 4 or 5 gears traditional (slow) auto with torque converter. Maybe even slower than slow if the fluid has never been changed (they often advertise it as 'lifetime' fluid but it isn't...).
Back to top
Werelds
Special Little Man



Posts: 15098
Location: 0100111001001100
PostPosted: Sun, 9th Oct 2016 12:09    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
dude its a bmw. the driver is supposed NOT to use turn signals and to park across the lines

Back to top
Danyutz




Posts: 4418
Location: Redplanet
PostPosted: Tue, 11th Oct 2016 14:56    Post subject:
What engine? That mileage tho Me Gusta
Back to top
Page 9 of 18 All times are GMT + 1 Hour
NFOHump.com Forum Index - General chatter Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 8, 9, 10 ... 16, 17, 18  Next
Signature/Avatar nuking: none (can be changed in your profile)  


Display posts from previous:   

Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB 2.0.8 © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group