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Not a fan of two things so far:
1) The real world environments are too "generic dystopian future"-looking.
2) Sizemore is such a cliche asshole that he seems like he belongs in a cartoon.
Other than that the show is top-notch.
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I have no words after these two episodes, I'm just astounded by such engrossing beauty. 
Also a bit terrified, because I fear that the bubble will burst with a a couple of wrong moves, hopefully though the writing team here seems highly capable. The storytelling is never banal so far, and there are cues (some more hidden than others) for potentially great outcomes. The fantastic acting and cast really help making everything believable like a wonderglue. I just wish I had the strength to resist and bingewatch it, the wait for the next episode is already killing me :3
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| Posted: Sun, 9th Oct 2016 01:23 Post subject: |
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Excellent second episode, no doubt they are doing their best to give us one hell of a show.
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| Posted: Sun, 9th Oct 2016 01:31 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 11th Oct 2016 18:10 Post subject: |
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Since the guns are designed to not hurt humans, the creators must've assumed guests would either purposely or accidentally shoot each other. So why is Ed Harris' character allowed to have a knife? He slit one of the robot's throats, he could do the same to a real human.
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| Posted: Tue, 11th Oct 2016 18:14 Post subject: |
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Jimmi Simpson was great. Want to see more of him 
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| Posted: Tue, 11th Oct 2016 20:16 Post subject: |
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| randir14 wrote: | | Since the guns are designed to not hurt humans, the creators must've assumed guests would either purposely or accidentally shoot each other. So why is Ed Harris' character allowed to have a knife? He slit one of the robot's throats, he could do the same to a real human. |
I was wondering about that. Maybe because he's "VIP" guest / customer? He's been coming there for 30 years, and that dude said "whatever the guy in the black coat wants" - so maybe he's just privileged.
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Oct 2016 10:30 Post subject: |
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what would happen if a new guest or even a host got hold of ed harris gun for example, would that then work on ed harris?
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Oct 2016 18:08 Post subject: |
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Why do you assume his gun is special?
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Oct 2016 18:49 Post subject: |
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Why are you people concerning yourself with such nonsense? Does it really matter how the guns work in order to enjoy the actual plot?
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Oct 2016 19:00 Post subject: |
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Guns from the original?
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Oct 2016 23:10 Post subject: |
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The first two episodes were soooo great.
I hope it stays this good. Best series in a while.
| Spoiler: | The part where dolores's father quotes shakespear is just acted out so greatly.
The father's talk is all ambigious making the progamers question if it's a bug or something totally different. The actions scenes are great as well. |
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Oct 2016 03:04 Post subject: |
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Nah, he's really great. Just like he is great in House of Cards where btw his character is, as of latest season...
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the only living person in the show who could really take the Underwoods down 
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Oct 2016 09:56 Post subject: |
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| inz wrote: | | PumpAction wrote: | | Jimmi Simpson was great. Want to see more of him |
No, he needs to get back to Always Sunny! |
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Oct 2016 11:34 Post subject: |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Oct 2016 13:38 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | | LeoNatan wrote: | | Why are you people concerning yourself with such nonsense? Does it really matter how the guns work in order to enjoy the actual plot? |
If the androids become self aware, the guns (and how they function, where they need to get them from) are going to be one of the most important things
They just finished an episode with Dolores presumably finding a real one, and it's nonsense to question how other Androids might get them for an eventual uprising? Is that not where the show seems to be heading?
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Precisely why they are very unimportant and insignificant. Once the hosts overcome the barrier, the tools are of no importance. The company guns don't hurt people? They'll use real ones. Can't find real ones? They'll use a sword, or a rope. Or make their own weapons. The inner workings of the tech is insignificant to the plot. Instead of focusing on the macro, people focus on the most insignificant micro. How does the white goo produce flesh? How do people get to the park? WHO THE FUCK CARES, this is the world and how it is set up. Being spoon fed with nonsense "answers" to such petty questions only serves as a distraction at best and a total immersion killer at worst (like a "plausible" explanation to why zombies exist in some show or film). |
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Oct 2016 13:51 Post subject: |
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Gee I wonder what will happen next. It will blow your mind!
You are proving my point. What is interesting is Dolores replacing a gun, not how the gun works. When watching a western, do you care how the gunpowder propels the bullet, or the plot? Much more interesting is why she'd want to change the gun in the first place, what implications it would have, why and how such a park exists in the first place.
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Oct 2016 14:03 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Oct 2016 14:19 Post subject: |
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Leo - i was just fascinated how hosts guns cant hurt guests but guests can hurt hosts for example and i wanted to know what would happen, theoretically, if as Int put it, dolores does replace a host gun with a guest - CAN the host then hurt a guest?
it doesnt take away from the fact the show has started absolutely brilliantly, i was just interested and further interested what happens if the host was to use a sword or rope as you put it.
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Oct 2016 14:28 Post subject: |
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ah ok - thats cool.
is Teddy a guest or a host? i thought he was a guest as he was able to shoot the people at dolores house but not able to shoot ed harris? is there different levels of guest?
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Oct 2016 14:37 Post subject: |
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How in the world is Teddy not a host? He has been "murdered" and reset multiple times, and in the second episode is shown in the disposal facility when Maeve stumbles there. MIB is a guest, or at least we are led to believe he is. He seems somewhat independent from the host uprising. With the Shakespearean code words "These violent delights have violent ends.", it seems to somehow rupture the reset barrier and invoke memories from previous sessions, ergo Dolores remembering the massacre, Meave remembering a village slaughter etc. It seems to be a key component to the uprising.
This is so much more interesting than how a bullet would self destruct if it is to meet with a human flesh. Seriously!
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Oct 2016 14:47 Post subject: |
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Fuck this shit, I'll indulge you and myself. I think the actual damage is performed at the host mechanics, not the ammunition. There is ammunition, yes, but it self destroys before contact. The host then takes over and performs a kill animation. So for instance, when Maeve shoots a robber in the head, the explosion effect is performed by the host. How else would they hide the internals of the host, otherwise? This way, the host chooses a gruesome animation and performs it. This is how no actual damage is done to the host, they just repair the external shell, reset, and off they go.
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Oct 2016 16:15 Post subject: |
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Leo - apologies for sounding dumb earlier - you have answered alot of my questions and i appreciate it.
the reason i asked about Teddy is because he seems to enter the park the way other guests have done and maybe he paid/wanted to be killed in certain scenarios as the guests act out whatever they desire etc BUT as you say, he is seen in the disposal facility.
cant wait for ep3!
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Oct 2016 16:27 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Oct 2016 16:38 Post subject: |
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| Watto1020 wrote: | Leo - apologies for sounding dumb earlier - you have answered alot of my questions and i appreciate it.
the reason i asked about Teddy is because he seems to enter the park the way other guests have done and maybe he paid/wanted to be killed in certain scenarios as the guests act out whatever they desire etc BUT as you say, he is seen in the disposal facility.
cant wait for ep3! |
Nope, that was just meant to be a cheap misdirection of the showmakers, so you learn the mechanics of the world, and also part of the narrative - Dolores recognizers him because he is part of the narrative; coming back to their world is part of the narrative. |
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