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atf300




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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Oct 2016 20:02    Post subject:
well i have narrowed it down ,

its either the

XFX Radeon RX 480 GTR Triple X 8 GB

or

MSI GeForce GTX1060 ARMOR 6G OC V1 6 GB

both cost the fraction of the same price.

i had good experience with my xfx 280 and they do 3 years warranty .

on the msi front , it seems a solid card.
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hazen




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Oct 2016 01:25    Post subject:
Most places i`ve read reviews and head to heads say that its close but they always choose the 1060.

What i`ve seen anyway. I was in your situation two weeks ago and narrowed it down the same cards as you.

Probably won`t need 8GB, by the time that`s required you`ll be thinking of getting a new one anyway Razz
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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Oct 2016 23:35    Post subject:
I believe my GPU got fubar'd today.
I was browsing, when I opened a site that loaded many flash videos, my drivers crashed. (driver stopped responding and recovered)
They came back two times and immediately crashed again, then it went permanently black and I had to do a hard reboot.

Ever since then, I see horizontal lines on the bootscreen, and flickering zeroes on the next screen.
After loading Windows the resolution does not go above 800x600 and it cannot load the graphics drivers. Device manager shows the GPU has been deactivated because Windows detected errors.

Event Viewer shows these errors (seems to be normal when this happens but it's not supposed to brick the damn GPU!) :
\Device\Video7
Graphics Exception: Shader Program Header 18 Error
Graphics Exception: ESR 0x404490=0x80000001
Graphics Exception: MISSING_MACRO_DATA

I plugged the GPU into old computer - same problems. Used old computer GPU on current computer - no problems.

Anyone know what happened exactly, and is there a way to repair it? (probably not)
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 00:20    Post subject:
TBH at first i thought it was more of some crazy malware problem you got infected with. grinhurt

But as you get the same problem with the GPU in another PC -> goodbye card.

Would help though if you would at least mention what card you even have, and when you bought it.

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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 00:34    Post subject:
It is or was a 3,5 years old Gigabyte 660 Ti.
I was planning to save up to get a new GPU in ~5 months
Great, now I'm stuck with an 8800 GTS J Browman
The people I know are all playing on consoles so no way to borrow anything in the meantime Sad
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 01:22    Post subject:
Is it acceptable to have a card that has noise which reach the heavens without vsync enabled, but quiet when it is?
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Drowning_witch




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 01:39    Post subject:
Shocktrooper wrote:
It is or was a 3,5 years old Gigabyte 660 Ti.
I was planning to save up to get a new GPU in ~5 months
Great, now I'm stuck with an 8800 GTS J Browman
The people I know are all playing on consoles so no way to borrow anything in the meantime Sad


some part of the GPU core crapped out probably.. had similar with a gtx260. 5 years of usage, playing tomb raider reboot, and the card just crashed with artifacts, and after a reboot, screen was always full of lines and the gpu wasn't fully recognized. i was able to play road rash 3d on it, as it's a software rendered game, squinting through the lines until I got a new GPU Laughing
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Janz




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 01:43    Post subject:
some soldering issues, happens sometimes. temporary fix is easy (can help, must not. can last for 2 minutes, or 2 hours or 2 weeks or 2 months etc...) --> remove everything possible, put it into alufoil and throw it for 20 min in your pre heated oven at 160-180°C (temps difffer from oven to oven). turn it off and let it slowly cool down inside the oven. take it out, put new thermalpaste on it and put it together again
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OnBoard




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 01:49    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
Is it acceptable to have a card that has noise which reach the heavens without vsync enabled, but quiet when it is?


Coil whine? That happens with high fps (above 100). My 970 used to whine, until I changed to my current PSU and now it's quit. So the whole maxwell noise gate was well blown out of proportions. Just stick adaptive sync on and all good.

Drowning_witch wrote:
Shocktrooper wrote:
It is or was a 3,5 years old Gigabyte 660 Ti.


some part of the GPU core crapped out probably..


Memory chip went poof. Well it could be something as simple as bad capacitor, but those usually result in just black screen. Changed bad caps from old 6800 le once.

Janz wrote:
some soldering issues, happens sometimes.


Wasn't that more of an laptop GPU issue, what BGA solder cracked under the silicon. But yeah, if it's broken, might as well stick it to oven

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Janz




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 02:15    Post subject:
the famous 8000 mobile series of nvidia yes Razz but also happened to a lot of desktop cards

its worth a try, you cant kill it further anyways (though i wouldnt recommend to make food in the oven directly after. let the door open a few hours to get rid of the stuff which might emerge from heating the stuff). you could use a heatgun as well, but since we dont know which part of the card is exactly responsible for that behavior its easier to throw it completely in the oven instead on working with the heatgun in specific parts of the card
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 02:31    Post subject:
OnBoard wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
Is it acceptable to have a card that has noise which reach the heavens without vsync enabled, but quiet when it is?


Coil whine? That happens with high fps (above 100). My 970 used to whine, until I changed to my current PSU and now it's quit. So the whole maxwell noise gate was well blown out of proportions. Just stick adaptive sync on and all good.

Drowning_witch wrote:
Shocktrooper wrote:
It is or was a 3,5 years old Gigabyte 660 Ti.


some part of the GPU core crapped out probably..


Memory chip went poof. Well it could be something as simple as bad capacitor, but those usually result in just black screen. Changed bad caps from old 6800 le once.

Janz wrote:
some soldering issues, happens sometimes.


Wasn't that more of an laptop GPU issue, what BGA solder cracked under the silicon. But yeah, if it's broken, might as well stick it to oven


Actually have coil whine with vsync on in dragon age inquisition Laughing this is a card which should be rma'd for certain.
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 02:58    Post subject:
Coil whine will happen when fps is past the limit of one's card Wink Easily solved by limiting in NV Inspector, regardless of vsync on or off Smile
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 04:33    Post subject:
The limit of this one is apparently very low Laughing going to rma it after the weekend.
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 05:16    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
The limit of this one is apparently very low Laughing going to rma it after the weekend.


I suppose, lol. Just say you tested it with Mafia III, and you will get a replacement or refund right away, as any card that whines under 45, must be faulty. Very Happy
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 11:51    Post subject:
Said dragon age inquisitio Smile coil whine comes and goes while vsync is on, but goes crazy when i alt tab to windows.
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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 12:16    Post subject:
Thanks for the explanation guys, I'll try the oven trick sometime
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 12:39    Post subject:

Don't do that retarded oven trick dude.


Let's assume it's some cold soldering, then look for those spots manually and apply new soldering.
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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 12:44    Post subject:
Okay, I do have soldering equipment at home so I'll try to check for cold spots first.
I checked some pics but I'm still not 100% sure how to identify the cold joints.
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 12:56    Post subject:
@Shocktrooper
They look like that for example:


Instead of a whole soldering spot, they often have some cracks around it.


It could also be an old capacitor. Visible if they look blown up at the top.
But not sure if it's really worth it to buy new ones.
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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 13:03    Post subject:
Thanks, I'll check it out later today
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Janz




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 13:08    Post subject:
@bob: NO NO NO, its not that easy and not performable with a simple soldering iron. as we dont know the faulty spot and its most likely not something you marked. is more a connection of the gpu or vram. and you cant see that. and reballing is not possible with a simple 0815 soldering iron. you need an expensensive soldering station for that . and its 100% not a blown up elko
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tonizito
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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 13:18    Post subject:
Yeah... I'd say more often than not it won't be a faulty capacitor (unless you smell something Razz) Those individual soldering spots are worth a shot BUT sometimes they're just too small to spot that "corona" around the pin or not easily accessible for your regular soldering iron.

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Janz




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 13:50    Post subject:
Quote:
sometimes they're just too small to spot that "corona"


thats what she said!
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Stige




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 13:54    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
@Shocktrooper
They look like that for example:


Instead of a whole soldering spot, they often have some cracks around it.


It could also be an old capacitor. Visible if they look blown up at the top.
But not sure if it's really worth it to buy new ones.
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There is a specific tip for solder to fix these that you just press on it, like round shaped tip with hole in it. Sort of like the vacuum tip or whatever it is that you use to get solder off except it doesn't do the sucking part.

Just press it on every "leg" or whatever they are called and fix the solders if there are any problems with them.
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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 14:17    Post subject:
When I find anything suspicious looking, I'll take a photo and post it here.
Will probably postpone it until tomorrow though
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difm




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 14:18    Post subject:
I finally got my EVGA 1070 SC and I love it Bouncy Gal'

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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 21:16    Post subject:
difm wrote:
I finally got my EVGA 1070 SC and I love it Bouncy Gal'

You must post pics of it like everyone else so far, or you are lying. Cool Face

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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 21:43    Post subject:
Preferable dick pics
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 21:53    Post subject:
With the dick on the fan

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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Oct 2016 23:05    Post subject:
in the fan

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